Guest terrychris Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 This is a hard topic to explain,but I hope you understand what I am meaning. Im not University trained so I will do my best. One thing for me in deciding to frequent beer bars is the conduct of the owner. I will give an example,a few years ago I went to a bar quite frequently in Jomtien . The former owner of that bar has gone back into business but I have decided not to go to his establishment because I feel his comments about other customers was unprofessional. These comments were made to me and other customers about other customers sexual preferences,i have never forgot that and found it unprofessional,the same with asking customers if you may borrow money from them. I believe like any business to be successful you have to pretend at least to like people,you have to be nice to people you dont like,you certainly do not tell customers about other customer's business nor do you talk about others behind their backs. I noticed a thread on another forum from a bar owner where he has gone into quite detail about a customer he had who was obese and his hair do etc,i found that extremely unprofessional,it will make me think twice whether to go to his establishment.,and I have never met the man,but I dont think I would drink there,my perception of him has been tainted. Maybe this is not inportant to you,and you dont mind,but to me it does. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I think it's unprofessional, but I wonder if it may also be a cultural thing. My only reason for saying that is that in Japan the bar owners of bars frequented by Japanese consider it almost their duty to know the sexual preferences of their customers. I once wandered into a tiny Tokyo bar, unaware that it was for Japanese only. As I spoke a few words of the language, the owner did try to make me feel sort of welcome. One of the first things he wanted to know was whether I was top or bottom. The reason? He'd then place me next to someone who was the opposite. A very Japanese way of trying to ensure his customers ended up with the right company! Quote
Guest terrychris Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Lol Fountainhall,i know what you mean,but in this case this particular bar owner at that time proceeded to tell me and others that this customer liked to dress as a woman etc because he would ask his boys on their return not to mention belittle customers behind their backs. I find successful bar owners try to maintain an image of being everyone's friend I guess. But if I was to have a bar and started to tell you that Fred Smith over there likes to be done by 3 boys at once etc would you still think the same of me or would you be wary? Quote
Guest Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I was recently in one reasonably nice Pattaya bar, considering offing my second boy from that bar within a week. The boy had been sat with me for only a couple of minutes. The mamasan came over, started asking a few questions. Then asked he asked I wanted to off the boy. I said I wanted to talk to him more then decide (I only needed to ask a couple more questions). Then the Mamasan barked "OFF, OFF, OFF, OFF, OFF in rather an agressive manner" I sent the Mamasan away & dealt with his assistant. However that kind of schizophrenic behaviour is unprofessional and could discourage customers.. Quote
Rogie Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 But if I was to have a bar and started to tell you that Fred Smith over there likes to be done by 3 boys at once etc would you still think the same of me or would you be wary? If I was a bar owner and knew Fred Smith was likely to 'off' three boys - that's three sets of 'off' fees - together with forking out for their drinks, you'd be lucky to even get a nod in your direction; I'd be all over Fred, fussing and bowing to his every whim. I was being frivolous, forgive me: Yes I think I'd ask myself "what's his game?" So I would be wary. I'd wonder if - assuming I went with one of his lads - whatever happened would be whispered in Fred Smith's ear next time he popped in. Of course, the only way th eowner is going to know anything at all about your sexual preferences, apart from what you mention to him in his bar, is going to come from the boy. So just as some owners and mamasans are the epitome of discretion, and some aren't, so some boys will hardly be able to help themselves spilling the beans and some will keep it to themselves (or the other boys, but not the owner). Quote