Trump Kills HIV Research

[reader]

12 minutes ago, Moses said:

Does anyone here want to advise Trump to increase taxes in USA for to keep distribution of HIV-drugs in Jakarta?

The HIV drugs were distributed worldwide, not just to Jakarta. I would accept higher taxes to combat the number one scourge to the gay community because the US has the proven capacity to do so.

[vinapu]

2 minutes ago, Moses said:

I also use credit cards during the grace period when traveling, and during this time the capital is turned into investments or lies in deposits at %% this is an obvious practice. But that was not the question

neither using credit card during grace period was my case, I just took debt , pure , clean and simple , reasoning that it's now or never as January 2025 is unlikely to return in foreseeable future

[Moses]

3 minutes ago, reader said:

however, only Trump could have authorized the deployment of one of more of FEMA's 29 Urban Search and Rescue teams scattered across the nation. They are comprised mostly of firefighters, medical personnel and engineers and have been successfully used overseas in wide-spread collapse situations.

Trump faces a choice: either he sends these commands to the junta, since only the junta's territory is safe, and immediately comes under fire from the leftists for helping the dictatorial regime, or he does nothing and still comes under fire from the same leftists for inaction.

The second option is cheaper and less risky. Again: common sense.

[reader]

1 minute ago, Moses said:

The second option is cheaper and less risky. Again: common sense.

Common only to you and DOGE.

[vinapu]

speaking about cutting  foreign assistance  - it's shooting oneself in foot to a great degree.  Where all those goodies distributed are coming from ? Sourced locally or rather shipped straight from donor countries  enriching their population in process.

It's enough to see what cars all those do-gooders are driving while on their mission. Certainly not local rickshaws

 

[Moses]

Just now, vinapu said:

Sourced locally or rather shipped straight from donor countries  enriching their population in process.

Nope. Trump's tariffs exactly about that: they forcing foreign local companies to move manufacturing plants form "donors countries" to US soil and "enrich" citizens of US. 

[reader]

Just now, Moses said:

Nope. Trump's tariffs exactly about that: they forcing foreign local companies to move manufacturing plants form "donors countries" to US soil and "enrich" citizens of US. 

Amazed that a man of your education sees logic in this crap.

[Moses]

1 minute ago, reader said:

Amazed that a man of your education sees logic in this crap.

This crap does exactly what I wrote, why else these manufacturing plants are located on US soil and not in China with cheap labor?

[Moses]

Trump does logical things:

 

Johnson in 1965 made the same - "Chicken tariff"

[thaiophilus]

33 minutes ago, Moses said:

It's also funny that the British Guardian writes about what Trump is doing in the US and doesn't write a word about what's happening on British soil, about the horrors of the healthcare system with queues lasting several months.

It seems to me that this is also an element of propaganda, promoting the agenda of the British government, and a distraction from the problems "underfoot".

The Guardian doesn't write a word about the horrors of the health service? Really?

https://www.google.com/search?q=nhs+queues+site:theguardian.com

yields 32 pages of hits. I didn't read them all, but here are the headlines from the first page:

Growing number of people face 18-month waits for NHS ...
Revealed: NHS trusts tell patients to go private and jump ...
Long NHS delays in England leading to thousands of ...
Almost 10 million people in England could be on NHS ...
Record 7.68m people waiting to start routine hospital ...
NHS waiting lists falling but will stay above pre-Covid ...
Private healthcare boom fuelled by NHS waiting lists
'It's going to be a terrible winter': ambulance queues warn ...
The Guardian view on public service queues: a grim ...

It's even funnier that you should consider the Guardian of all papers a government mouthpiece.

Must be an April Fool joke.

[floridarob]

4 minutes ago, Moses said:

why else these manufacturing plants are located on US soil and not in China with cheap labor?

Happened under Reagan....

I see a big flaw in all the arguments..... you all mention Trump's plans, decisions, etc....

You give him way too much credit.... he's just the Bully sending the message the real puppet masters are making.

[reader]

My car was manufactured at a Honda plant in the US. Why would Trump want to screw with that but he does. He plans to apply tariffs to any materials imported in their manufacture. And he plans to do the same to GM, Chrysler and Ford plants.

If you believe tariffs (in any direction) are beneficial to the nation that applies them, we will never agree.

One of the commodities protected the longest by US tariffs is sugar. And it costs taxpayers about twice as much as it does elsewhere.

 

[Moses]

18 minutes ago, reader said:

One of the commodities protected the longest by US tariffs is sugar. And it costs taxpayers about twice as much as it does elsewhere.

And US is still fattiest nation.

[reader]

2 minutes ago, Moses said:

And US is still fattiest nation.

Thank you for making my case. And I proudly say this an overweight person.

[PeterRS]

2 hours ago, Moses said:

Does anyone here want to advise Trump to increase taxes in USA for to keep distribution of HIV-drugs in Jakarta?

The article was nothing about Jakarta. It was specifically about HIV cuts affecting only Trump's own people in the USA. 

[Moses]

22 hours ago, floridarob said:

I already received messages from friends in Jakarta that work in HIV outreach and said they've lost all funding....

29 minutes ago, PeterRS said:

The article was nothing about Jakarta.

Do you see word "article" in my post?

[PeterRS]

This discussion started with an article -

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/31/trump-administration-hiv-research-grant-cuts

That you decide to misinterpret it, go ahead! We know your methods.

[vinapu]

On 4/1/2025 at 9:39 AM, Moses said:

Trump faces a choice: either he sends these commands to the junta, since only the junta's territory is safe, and immediately comes under fire from the leftists for helping the dictatorial regime, or he does nothing and still comes under fire from the same leftists for inaction.

The second option is cheaper and less risky. Again: common sense.

????? !!!!

this is 'common sense" of category " guy is in bed dying with cancer , lets strangle him to spare him suffering , lower our costs and release bed for somebody else '",

it  makes logical  sense but fortunately humanity doesn't work that way leaving such reasoning to animal world.

[Moses]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

it  makes logical  sense but fortunately humanity doesn't work that way leaving such reasoning to animal world.

Fortunately, yes. That's why Russia has already sent 5 planes with humanitarian aid and 450 professional rescuers.

And what did France, Germany, Britain, Italy and the rest of the "free world" do? "With thoughts and prayers..."? What world are they in? The one where they create a "Peace Fund" to raise money for weapons?

[vinapu]

6 hours ago, Moses said:

Russia has already sent 5 planes with humanitarian aid and 450 professional rescuers.

 

about time, spending so far resources on the war finally  some roubles were employed to productive use. Country who has ambition to be great power needs to show it's less mercenary and more humanitarian side 

[Moses]

4 hours ago, vinapu said:

Country who has ambition to be great power needs to show it's less mercenary and more humanitarian side 

Do you mean "France, Germany, Britain, Italy and the rest of the "free world" don't want to be "great power"?

[PeterRS]

On 4/1/2025 at 8:39 PM, Moses said:

Trump faces a choice: either he sends these commands to the junta, since only the junta's territory is safe

Wrong! The junta's territory is far from safe. @Moses has not been checking the news over the last 18 months. The local state militias have made sweeping gains over the junta forces. Since June 2024, the local militias have swept the junta out of virtually all its territory in by far the largest of the country's states, Shan State in the east. Lashio, the strategically vital gateway to China, fell in June/July. This was acknowledged by the junta on August 5. Since Shan State is the key to trade with China, this was a huge reversal for the junta.

In Rakhine State in the south, the local Arakhan Army now controls most of the state. Strategically after the fall of the junta's last outpost at Maungdaw it now controls the entire length of the border with Bangladesh. In Karen State on the Thai border, the junta's forces have spent a year attempting to recapture control of the main trade route between Kawkareik and Myawaddy and the Thai border. They continue to be totally bogged down and continue to suffer major casualties.

I could go on and on, but my point is made. The August 2024 map below shows those major towns captured from the junta up to that date, the area of the country out of junta control, and the much smaller part still within its control. Since that date, the local militias now control even more of the country. @Moses is unlikely to acknowledge that the junta's main weapon it is air force - much financed by Russia along with the provision of other weapons. Last year the junta leader Min Aung Hlaing visited Moscow, his fourth official visit to Russia since the 2021 coup. Russia already exports oil to the junta and uses Myanmar to supply oil to China as a means of getting around western sanctions. In return for assistance, Russia has been promised rights to extract minerals from Myanmar's conflict zones and to build an oil refinery at the coastal city of Dawei.

Putin meets the junta leader in Moscow: photo Associated Press

Both parties to the conflict (well, perhaps that should read "many" as the local militias basically operate independently even though there is now a National Unity Government which consists mostly of some elected in the 2021 General Election and were then booted out after the junta coup) are concerned about China. Unlike many rebel governments, the NUG members have not fled overseas. This is not a government in exile although it does maintain representative offices in many countries including the USA, Japan, South Korea, the UK, France, Norway, Australia and others. These help it raise funds for the militias. The members still remain, well protected, in Myanmar, though. Yet Washington still refuses to recognize the NUG and is withholding US$1 billion held in the Federal Reserve to the country's democratic representatives. 

The primary concern of the anti-junta forces is that China already has massive investments in the country and it is a key part of President Xi's Belt & Road initiative. After for some years providing finance to both sides, China called the parties together twice last year to meetings in Yunnan Province in an attempt to broker a ceasefire. It even sent its Foreign Minister Wang Yi to one to talk direectly with the junta leader. Both meetings failed. With the border area between the two countries in the northern Kachin State now controlled by the Kachin Independence Army following their victories against the junta in November 2024, China is indeed increasingly concerned. The last thing it wants is instability on its Myanmar border. It has said it will support the junta at least until promised elections later this year. No one in Myanmar expects these elections to be held. That perhaps is a degree of relief for China's stated position because the last thing it wants for Myanmar is a democratic government that leans more to the west than to China.

 

[PeterRS]

10 hours ago, Moses said:

Fortunately, yes. That's why Russia has already sent 5 planes with humanitarian aid and 450 professional rescuers.

And what did France, Germany, Britain, Italy and the rest of the "free world" do? "With thoughts and prayers..."? What world are they in? The one where they create a "Peace Fund" to raise money for weapons?

What nonsense @Moses sometimes spouts! Britain was one of the first countries to provide financial aid to help relief efforts. Yes, Russia provided relief teams and commendable that was. China, Japan, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Thailand and other countries, though, have also sent relief teams, but they have been severely hampered by the junta's forces! While the shadow National Unity Government has announced a two-week ceasefire, the junta did not agree and has continued to use its air force to bomb civilians every day since the earthquake struck! Those attempting to assist in rescue efforts under horrific circumstances have been massively hampered by the junta's inaction. Britain, Australia and the EU have agreed funding. But then as the Myanmar government is in the pocket of Russia, naturally the junta gives prominence to what Russia is doing!

[Moses]

4 minutes ago, PeterRS said:

@Moses has not been checking the news over the last 18 months

I not only read the news, but also managed to visit Myanmar, to attend the funeral of my friend's parents, who were killed by "liberators".

And, unlike the armchair readers of Western propaganda, I saw what was happening there with my own eyes.

And if these "liberators" do win, then a war of everyone against everyone will begin, which suits the West just fine - after all, China will then lose access to the Indian Ocean. It is no coincidence that all these "liberators" suddenly began to receive aid from Western countries immediately after Xi agreed with Myanmar on laying a railway and building a port on the shores of the Indian Ocean.

[PeterRS]

19 minutes ago, Moses said:

I not only read the news, but also managed to visit Myanmar, to attend the funeral of my friend's parents, who were killed by "liberators".

And, unlike the armchair readers of Western propaganda, I saw what was happening there with my own eyes.

@Moses - before you make statements like this, do you not realise that Myanmar is the fourth largest country in East Asia? Only Mongolia, China and Indonesia are larger. It is, for example twice the size of Japan and also of Vietnam. And yet you claim that you saw what was happening with your own eyes when there - for a funeral? So in one short visit to one tiny part of that huge country, you saw what was happening in the country as a whole? Do you seriously expect us to believe that? (I suppose you do, which says something about your posts!) As for news, I suggest you update what you have been reading for it is hugely out of date!

My partner is from Myanmar. He has a whole bunch of relatives in Myanmar. I take what he tells me as the truth for the tiny part of Myanmar where they are based. But I do not then upsize that and assume it is reflective of the country as a whole. That would be the height of stupidity. I also happen to read a great deal. I am writing a book about the country, its history and its present state. My book will never be more than a snapshot, I fully accept that. There are excellent histories on Burma/Myanmar by scholars like Thant Mint-U which anyone really interested in the country shouid definitely read.

But my snapshot is a great deal more honest than yours!