reader Posted Thursday at 04:27 AM Posted Thursday at 04:27 AM From The Thaiger A Thai dancer had a terrifying brush with death after suffering a severe shockmid-performance at a temple in Kamphaeng Phet. The culprit? A mystery drink laced with a sexual stimulant, handed to him by a member of the audience. The official Facebook page of the Mor Lam performance band, หมอลำใจเกินร้อย(Mor Lam Jai Kern Roi, meaning over 100% spirit Mor Lam band), provided an update on the condition of the male dancer, Warayuth Somsanook, yesterday, March 5. According to the page, Warayuth suffered a shock after consuming the drink provided by a member of the audience. The suspect handed a glass of alcohol to the victim in front of the stage and urged to drink it in exchange for a reward. The drink was not pure alcohol but it had been mixed with sexual stimulants. The amount of the substance was beyond what the human body could tolerate, causing Warayuth to lose consciousness on stage. Fortunately, he received medical treatment in time. The performance on the day of the incident took place at Thung Sanin Temple in Kamphaeng Phet. The temple’s monks condemned the suspect on social media, with some locals also believing that the suspect intended to damage the reputation of both the temple and the Mor Lam band. The monks stated that the suspect was an LGBTQIA+ individual wearing a white T-shirt. ThaiRath reported that the temple is now gathering evidence to take legal action against the person. https://thethaiger.com/news/national/thai-dancer-shocked-after-drink-spiked-with-sexual-stimulant TMax, tm_nyc, Ruthrieston and 2 others 1 4 Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted Thursday at 04:33 AM Popular Post Posted Thursday at 04:33 AM 3 minutes ago, reader said: The suspect handed a glass of alcohol to the victim in front of the stage and urged to drink it in exchange for a reward. if I hate something in Thailand is that habit frequently seen in bars, performers or boys ( no doubt girls too in their bars) are offered a shot wrapped in 100 baht note reader, BL8gPt, a-447 and 3 others 6 Quote
a-447 Posted Thursday at 08:35 AM Posted Thursday at 08:35 AM 4 hours ago, vinapu said: if I hate something in Thailand is that habit frequently seen in bars, performers or boys ( no doubt girls too in their bars) are offered a shot wrapped in 100 baht note I totally agree. There are lots of Asians who can not tolerate alcohol. I've seen a number of guys over the years who were virtually forced to drink shots on stage and were clearly uncomfortable doing it, with or without monetary compensation. Some seemed on the verge of vomiting. My regular in Pattaya used to work in Eros. He's not a drinker and said he hated it when customers wanted him to drink shots or participate in drinking games. The bar put pressure on him to accede to the customers' wishes. This is only for the enjoyment of the customers! Tbh, I've never heard of drinks being spiked in gay bars in Thailand, but come to think of it, it wouldn't be difficult to do. Disgusting. Ruthrieston, kokopelli3 and TMax 3 Quote
Vessey Posted Thursday at 09:08 AM Posted Thursday at 09:08 AM Given that most bars charge almost as much for soft drinks as they do alcoholic ones, there should be less pressure perhaps on the boys? I regularly stick to soft drinks until, say midnight, when I may have a couple of beers. So I have no difficulty at all with the boy drinks I buy being soft drinks, the boys still get their commission and often seem quite grateful that they are not being pressed into alcoholic drinks. However, in places like Stonehouse or Sinlapin, or one of the many other late night (mostly Thai) clubs, it is usually the Thai customers themselves wrapping 100 baht notes around a shot glasss and handing them up to sigers/dancers on stage Of course once you hit the karaoke bars later on and the whisky bottles emerge, then all bets are off! 😂 There the whisky drinking games (rock, paper scissors etc) can get boys very drunk very quickly. But in 25 years I have never experienced spiked drinks. Quote
macaroni21 Posted Thursday at 11:30 AM Posted Thursday at 11:30 AM 6 hours ago, vinapu said: if I hate something in Thailand is that habit frequently seen in bars, performers or boys ( no doubt girls too in their bars) are offered a shot wrapped in 100 baht note +1 Lucky 1 Quote
Members unicorn Posted Thursday at 07:28 PM Members Posted Thursday at 07:28 PM 14 hours ago, reader said: From The Thaiger A mystery drink laced with a sexual stimulant, handed to him by a member of the audience. ... The drink was not pure alcohol but it had been mixed with sexual stimulants... The monks stated that the suspect was an LGBTQIA+ individual wearing a white T-shirt... Well, this is certainly a good reminder not to accept drinks from people you don't know, unless you observe the drink being prepared in front of you. When I clicked on the appropriate link, the purported "sexual stimulant" was reported as sildenafil, which is not a sexual stimulant, but rather a medication which makes it easier to obtain and sustain erections. Sildenafil does not change sexual desire (libido). If there was something else mixed in, it was not mentioned. Although sildenafil can drop blood pressure by a few points, it wouldn't cause someone to pass out. The only reports of people passing out on sildenafil are from those who are also taking nitrates, which I can't imagine this dancer was taking. (Sildenafil was originally tested as a blood pressure medication, but didn't get approved for that because its effect on blood pressure is too small. The effect on erections was discovered when polling test subjects on side-effects). I would think there was probably more than alcohol and sildenafil in that drink to cause a severe reaction, although it's unclear what the article means when it mentions "shock." Presumably, it doesn't mean shock in the medical sense, since the dancer doesn't appear to be attached to anything in that photo--not even an IV. I'm also curious why the monks "stated" the suspect was a member of the LGBTQIA+ community, not even "suspected." I could understand why, if he were wearing a rainbow shirt or a unicorn-bearing shirt, they could have that suspicion (though I've known allies to wear rainbows). I'm not saying he was or was not a member of our community, but certainly the article didn't mention why the monks were so certain. This article certainly raises a lot more questions than answers, at least as far as I'm concerned. tm_nyc and floridarob 2 Quote
Members tm_nyc Posted Thursday at 09:19 PM Members Posted Thursday at 09:19 PM 1 hour ago, unicorn said: This article certainly raises a lot more questions than answers Not for the first time in Thai journalism. According to Thairath, the victim stated that he was given the spiked drink by a 35 year old male in a white T-shirt 'looking like an LGBTQ' whatever that means. So, yes, a lot of questions left unanswered. Thairath article: https://www.thairath.co.th/news/local/2845487 unicorn 1 Quote
Members unicorn Posted Thursday at 11:10 PM Members Posted Thursday at 11:10 PM 1 hour ago, tm_nyc said: Not for the first time in Thai journalism. According to Thairath, the victim stated that he was given the spiked drink by a 35 year old male in a white T-shirt 'looking like an LGBTQ' whatever that means. So, yes, a lot of questions left unanswered. Thairath article: https://www.thairath.co.th/news/local/2845487 Thank you for referencing what appears to be a more objective article. While I understand that something may be lost in the translation, what I can read from the translation is "...the temple did not remain indifferent to the incident. It checked the CCTV footage to see who the perpetrator was. It knew, but could not identify the person yet...". This is quite different from the Thaiger article, which stated with certainty that the man who provided the drink was known to be in the LGBTQI+ community. I have been noted repeated instances in which Thaiger seems to enjoy maligning the LGBTQI+ community. I'm not sure why it's even relevant to the story. Again, I find it very difficult to believe that sildenafil and a bit of alcohol alone could have done this. There are very few instances of sildenafil overdoses documented, but in those few cases, the primary symptoms appeared to be nausea, vomiting, rapid heart rate, vision problems, and headaches, not passing out. Here are two reports of overdoses, one who took 65 sildenafil 100 mg (max) tablets, and the other 20 of the 100 mg tablets. Neither passed out, nor is it possible for that much sildenafil to slipped into one drink. I have to believe there's something we're not being told. https://academic.oup.com/jat/article-abstract/39/7/572/819563?redirectedFrom=fulltext "...The case presented here is of a 56-year-old man who claimed to have undertaken an unsuccessful suicide attempt by mono-ingestion of 65 tablets of 100 mg sildenafil. He arrived at the emergency department 24 h after intake with severe vomiting and symptoms of blurred vision. Clinical examination revealed no priapism. Of note was a sinus tachycardia of 100 bpm without signs of hypotension...". https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1081/CLT-100105168 There are also reports that overdosing on sildenafil can temporarily and permanently damage vision. https://dergipark.org.tr/tr/download/article-file/664088 "...the case of a 27-year-old male patient who had sinus tachycardia and blue vision, which developed because of overdose of SC taken in an attempt to commit suicide and which was followed by this clinical state for approximately for 4 h. This clinical status was spontaneously terminated without requiring any intervention. The patient ingested approximately 1500 mg of SC. After improvement in visual perception, the patient was followed-up after approximately 6 h in the observation unit of the emergency department and was discharged without any complication or sequelae...". (SC is short for sildenafil citrate) https://bmcophthalmol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12886-022-02426-7 "...We report retinal morphology, retinal sensitivity, and findings of electrophysiological evaluation over long-term follow-up in a case of sildenafil overdose (2000 mg). Case presentation Our patient developed visual abnormalities in the paracentral visual field accompanied by photophobia, decreased contrast sensitivity, and difficulty distinguishing colors in both eyes, 8 hours after the sildenafil overdose. These symptoms did not improve throughout the course, and although abnormalities of retinal morphology and sensitivity, as well as the electroretinogram findings showed slight improvement, the patient did not recover completely at 6-month follow-up...". tm_nyc 1 Quote
thaiophilus Posted Friday at 10:30 AM Posted Friday at 10:30 AM 13 hours ago, tm_nyc said: According to Thairath, the victim stated that he was given the spiked drink by a 35 year old male in a white T-shirt 'looking like an LGBTQ' whatever that means. I think what that means is that a Thai-speaking witness actually said "looking like a katoey" which any native Thai speaker would understand. The journalist has helpfully (cluelessly) translated it into "LGBTQ" for the benefit of English-speaking readers. A few years ago they'd just have written "ladyboy". tm_nyc and Raposa 2 Quote
Members unicorn Posted Friday at 07:43 PM Members Posted Friday at 07:43 PM 9 hours ago, thaiophilus said: I think what that means is that a Thai-speaking witness actually said "looking like a katoey" which any native Thai speaker would understand. The journalist has helpfully (cluelessly) translated it into "LGBTQ" for the benefit of English-speaking readers. A few years ago they'd just have written "ladyboy". The article stated, and I quote: "The monks stated that the suspect was an LGBTQIA+." That's not the same as "he looked like...". Of course, the big question is what relevance that had to the story to begin with. That news source seems to take great glee at pointing out the alleged criminality coming from our community--or people who "look like" they belong to our community. When one adds up the other suspicious statements in that article, one gets a picture of the news source's reliability (or lack thereof) and motives. Quote
thaiophilus Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 16 hours ago, unicorn said: The article stated, and I quote: "The monks stated that the suspect was an LGBTQIA+." That was the Thaiger article. I was referring to the "more objective" (your words) Thairath article quoted by tm_nyc: 'looking like an LGBTQ' . The actual words are "ลักษณะคล้าย LGBTQ". ลักษณะ means "physical characteristics, appearance; characteristic; manner". คล้าย means "to resemble; look like". Source: Thai-English Student's Dictionary, Mary R Haas, Stanford University Press, 1964. ISBN 0-8047-0567-4. unicorn 1 Quote