Members stevenkesslar Posted March 4 Members Posted March 4 Trump halts aid to Ukraine The minerals deal is still on the table. So are deals with Russia. Quote But as much as Trump may want to broker a historic peace, his own ego remains a factor. No shit! How do you figure? 😉 Quote “Trump is driving Ukraine toward Europe. And it will take everything Europe’s got to keep them going,” said Ivo Daalder, a former U.S. ambassador to NATO under President Barack Obama. “But when you refuse to give them any security guarantees, when you insult them, you’re actually giving away your leverage. Because, like it or not, Ukraine is going to have a say in any peace deal.” I assume the insolent pig's latest outburst is based on not liking the fact that leaders in Germany and France are actually calling him out for his betrayal of Ukraine and Europe. The thing that is nice about Trump is you really don't have to guess. He's just upfront in his recklessness, stupidity, and retribution. He is like a pissed off child. So it seems about 99 % clear that Ukraine will not get security guarantees from Trump. And that the insolent pig will do everything he can to ally with Putin. Despite the fact that only 4 % of Americans actually sympathize more with Putin on this issue, as shown in multiple polls. And, left to his own resources, at this point it is more than a reasonable guess that Trump will happily throw the security interests of both Ukraine and Europe under the bus. The fact that a pro-US conservative German leader is calling Trump out almost assures that is how Europe sees it. Quote Views are split sharply along partisan lines – 90% of Democrats oppose pardons, compared with 40% of Republicans. Two-thirds of independent voters oppose pardons. That's a recent Jan. 2025 poll on how people feel about pardoning the J6ers. I posted that because this is in the same ballpark. In my view, pardoning Putin for genocide is much worse than pardoning the J6ers for an attack on cops, and a peaceful transfer of power in a democracy. But both basically involve MAGA authoritarian followers being willing to say whatever their leader says is the truth. If Putin is the peacemaker, not the aggressor, than Trump must be right. And Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson must be wrong, too. But we'll pardon him, too. For now. That is how Trump and his loyal followers roll. Ian Bremmer argued in that article about that European leaders better pander to Trump quick, if they want to avoid a "full rapprochement" between "the Americans and Russians". I'm pretty sure Starmer and Macron and Merz will dance that dance soon. If only to say they gave it a whirl. But Trump has made it as clear as he can that he and Putin are allies. They share an aligned "vision" - to quote his pals in Russia. And that is the way it is. What's not to like about authoritarianism? That poll above is probably a good guess of how many Americans will go along with it. Quote
a-447 Posted March 4 Posted March 4 Maybe it's time for Ukraine to forget about Trump and wait the next 4 years out. In the meantime, they could offer those valuable rare minerals in a deal with China, in which Xi pressures Putin to end the war on fair terms, and then sits back and waits to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Now, that would really piss Trump off! Quote
Stable Genius Posted March 4 Posted March 4 https://www.instagram.com/p/DGterVxtoUZ/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=13abb605-6d07-4100-b61c-6d31075a35e1&img_index=12 Ukrainians do wear suits. Quote