Too little time!

[Department_Of_Agriculture]

2 hours ago, khaolakguy said:

It reminds me of the story long ago of a not particularly nice man who I met who said that the guy he was offing was very thoughtful because he slept on the floor at night so that the customer could be comfortable in the bed. Knowing the guy I talked to him a few days later  and he told me that because of the unpleasant smell of the customer he couldn't sleep in the bed with him, and he could only do overnight if he slept on the floor!

That reminds me of the horror stories from boys who end-up in bed with customers who snore loudly and then complain when the boy tries to convert the overnight job into a short-time so that he can get out of there and actually get some sleep. In most cases it's not as if these boys who agree to overnights know what they are in for until they get into bed with - or try to fall asleep with - these customers.  Even if they have actually been in bed with that snoring horror before, the snoring may have got a lot worse without the old fart realising it. Some of these stories are fairly recent and my  sympathy is usually with the boy.

[Department_Of_Agriculture]

9 hours ago, Dannyxxx said:

Also, i really want to have a certain guy from KmanSpa stay the night with me but i don’t see that as an option on the Line app.  I only see up to two hours

KMan is a knock shop and virtually no one from there hires for overnight; therefore they won't put an overnight price there on their regular bulletins. Overnights are possible though - if the particular boy is agreeable to it. Just message the shop on LINE and ask whether he is available to do overnight. You have a better chance of him agreeing to it if you message and arrange ahead of time rather than at the moment you want it. He may need to adjust his own plans to accommodate an overnight. Also, as overnights are not standard in these places, the price quoted may have no apparent relation to the hourly rate. Short-time prices on the Thai side of things are visibly lower than what you pay in foreign-focused places. That advantage often disappears when you book for an overnight.

[zoomomancs]

10 hours ago, Dannyxxx said:

So I’m arriving in Bangkok soon. My first time in Thailand. I booked the Quarter Silom for two people.  If I end up offing a boy from Freshboys and he comes back to my place for the night, am i allowed to give him breakfast since my room is for two people?  Would the guy even care about breakfast or do they just leave once the deed is done and not sleep with you after?  Sorry i just wonder about all the possibilities. I’m only there for 4.5 days before trying my luck in Japan. So many hot guys in these countries😅

Also, i really want to have a certain guy from KmanSpa stay the night with me but i don’t see that as an option on the Line app.  I only see up to two hours.  I hope to not get monetarily screwed when i off the guy at Freshboys. Thx for any tips my dudes.

My experience is that the lads often resist overnights and even if they agree, a 2am 'emergency' (eg room mate has no key to room) often emerges. I think you are entitled to 2 breakfasts but I would check with the reception who spoke good English when I was last at that hotel. 

[vinapu]

If you booked  room  for two with breakfast option for sure you will be served breakfast  for both of you without any fuss. Did it many times in many places in Thailand, not just in Bangkok.

as for boy accompanying you to a breakfast  it's usually his decision. I always invite them to a breakfast unless session was not exactly enjoyable but it's rare occurrence  My experience shows that most of them will gladly accept an invitation.

As for long time ( overnight )from bar talk to the boy boy  in bar. It's not unknown to science, as it was mentioned above that  if boy likes you , he may suggest to stay overnight even if originally he was reluctant.

Breaking Long Time promise is more popular exercise , they want the deal so agree to stay overnight if they sense it's what is deal breaker for customer but in the room will find some pretext to go home. No use of getting upset over that but certainly his fee should be greatly reduced an they will accept it (last year I had case he took 1500 and went home even if we agreed on 4000 overnight). I my case such boy, no matter how enthusiastic and handsome is crossed from future engagements. 

If you plan to take  boy  overnight from massage spa , my way of doing things would be  to have massage session with him there and discuss long time option during it. Both sides are more familiar with each other and know better what to expect. Some boys will decline , others may even suggest themselves visiting you in the hotel.

[Dannyxxx]

Well i did it.  Went to Freshboys at 9:35 right after checking in to my hotel.  One gripe about the Quarter Silom is that the a/c says it is 16 degrees Celsius and i cannot set it any colder.  I don’t think it has come on since i’ve been here.  It’s colder outside than inside.  I think i need to ask for a new room because it’s so hot in here

I liked how the pricing was straightforward. I bought a Coke for 400 baht.  Waited about ten minutes. There were around 30 guys on stage in white shorts/socks/shoes.  I found it rather erotic seeing them up there.  I didn’t wanna linger and get hassled to pay for more extraneous expenses so i chose the guy i wanted. #20.  He was a tatted top.  I ended up paying for two drinks, the 5oo off fee. Also, 2500 upon completion of the deed.  I told him just to enjoy himself and bust so he did. Then he helped me do the same. He asked if i was happy and i said yes.  So then he was ready to leave.  Sounded good to me as i am dead tired from jetlag.  If i do this again tomorrow i will specify exactly the amount of time i expect him to stay.  That was fun. Took me one stroll around the block to get the nerve to go in but once i did it was glorious.  Plus i paid exactly what i agreed to so no extra charges.  
 

What if i go there tomorrow and it’s more just to hangout and gawk for an hour?  Is that when they try to push more charges on you?  

[jason1975]

2 hours ago, Dannyxxx said:

Well i did it.  Went to Freshboys at 9:35 right after checking in to my hotel.  One gripe about the Quarter Silom is that the a/c says it is 16 degrees Celsius and i cannot set it any colder.  I don’t think it has come on since i’ve been here.  It’s colder outside than inside.  I think i need to ask for a new room because it’s so hot in here

I liked how the pricing was straightforward. I bought a Coke for 400 baht.  Waited about ten minutes. There were around 30 guys on stage in white shorts/socks/shoes.  I found it rather erotic seeing them up there.  I didn’t wanna linger and get hassled to pay for more extraneous expenses so i chose the guy i wanted. #20.  He was a tatted top.  I ended up paying for two drinks, the 5oo off fee. Also, 2500 upon completion of the deed.  I told him just to enjoy himself and bust so he did. Then he helped me do the same. He asked if i was happy and i said yes.  So then he was ready to leave.  Sounded good to me as i am dead tired from jetlag.  If i do this again tomorrow i will specify exactly the amount of time i expect him to stay.  That was fun. Took me one stroll around the block to get the nerve to go in but once i did it was glorious.  Plus i paid exactly what i agreed to so no extra charges.  
 

What if i go there tomorrow and it’s more just to hangout and gawk for an hour?  Is that when they try to push more charges on you?  

Glad it worked out for you!

The mamasan will try to ask you to buy a 2nd drink if you stay long but it's ok. You can politely decline.

Enjoy the rest of your time in Bangkok. Get a massage in day time!

[Olddaddy]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

t (last year I had case he took 1500 and went home even if we agreed on 4000 overnight

So he missed out on 2500?

I would of stayed with you for 4k ,next time call me 😂

[Dannyxxx]

57 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

Glad it worked out for you!

The mamasan will try to ask you to buy a 2nd drink if you stay long but it's ok. You can politely decline.

Enjoy the rest of your time in Bangkok. Get a massage in day time!

Thanks.  I plan to.  I messaged KmanSpa on Line trying to schedule with a particular boy but haven’t received a response yet.  Any recommendations on a massage parlor that is a surefire thing for sex versus solely a massage?  I see so many posts on here but not sure which ones to pursue.  I’m into twunk/twink looking boys.  I see 9-teen is closeby to my hotel

[Raposa]

3 hours ago, Dannyxxx said:

Thanks.  I plan to.  I messaged KmanSpa on Line trying to schedule with a particular boy but haven’t received a response yet.  Any recommendations on a massage parlor that is a surefire thing for sex versus solely a massage?  I see so many posts on here but not sure which ones to pursue.  I’m into twunk/twink looking boys.  I see 9-teen is closeby to my hotel

If this is your first trip to Bangkok, then you don’t need to travel all the way to Saphan Khwai if you’re staying in the Silom area, there is more than enough to explore there for the first timer.

Senso men club in Silom will definitely offer you what you’re after, but the massage itself will only likely be average, but then again nobody goes there for the massages LOL They got twinks and twunks. Shops such as 9-teen and relax are more about the HE, but the quality of those places are variable. The Prime massage on the same street as those shops will only offer massage and no extras in 96% of cases.

You can of course also go to Avarin or the Green massage near your hotel, pick a male masseur and order 1 hour oil massage and see what happens  😉

[Dannyxxx]

Thank you.  I think i’ll give Senso a try then.  I’m blanking on the meaning of  HE.  Healing energy?

[khaolakguy]

Happy Ending(orgasm for customer)

[Raposa]

43 minutes ago, Dannyxxx said:

Thank you.  I think i’ll give Senso a try then.  I’m blanking on the meaning of  HE.  Healing energy?

At Senso men club, you don’t need to make a booking, you show up there and choose from the lineup of boys that is there. You will have a bigger selection after 4pm, if you are there early and you dont see anyone you like you can always return there later. You can discuss with Papasan there what you’re looking for, including size, orientation, sexual position etc. Note that since Senso is a hard shop you can discuss these things in the shop, though not really on Line. Other places will not discuss these things publicly and you have to do that in the privacy of the room with the masseur.

If you’re going early you might want to give the other ones I mentioned a try. At most of the massage shops like Avarin or Green, most of the masseurs start working at 1pm. A good option if you’re early is to order a foot massage at 12 and then have a look at the masseurs as they come in to work. Identify which one you like and then arrange for an oil massage later. They will vary in the kind off extra services they will offer you. 

[vinapu]

6 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

So he missed out on 2500?

I would of stayed with you for 4k ,next time call me 😂

indeed, he preferred to cash 1500 and go home instead of using option of earning 4000. His choice. From this moment on I'm not receptive at all to stories of how boys struggle financially. I know that often they do but I don't feel sorry anymore. That Aug 2024 trip hardened my heart aplenty as this case was one of , if I recall correctly 6 nights of broken promises on 2 weeks trip.

As for next time, if you pay me 4000 I will let you to stay with me overnight, sure

[vinapu]

11 hours ago, Department_Of_Agriculture said:

That reminds me of the horror stories from boys who end-up in bed with customers who snore loudly and then complain when the boy tries to convert the overnight job into a short-time so that he can get out of there and actually get some sleep. In most cases it's not as if these boys who agree to overnights know what they are in for until they get into bed with - or try to fall asleep with - these customers.  Even if they have actually been in bed with that snoring horror before, the snoring may have got a lot worse without the old fart realising it. Some of these stories are fairly recent and my  sympathy is usually with the boy.

I believe best answer to that  was given by  Tawan boy named Boss I offed Long Time to Raya pre- covid . In the morning I asked him if he caught some sleep and answer was such that is should be written all over " no, but you are not paying me to have nice sleep". 

If boys who agree to overnights don't know what they are in for, perhaps they are in wrong line of work.

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, Dannyxxx said:

Thank you.  I think i’ll give Senso a try then.  I’m blanking on the meaning of  HE.  Healing energy?

I have feeling you would do well in Arena, guys there are older and on muscly side but certainly they know well what fuck  is

[Dannyxxx]

5 minutes ago, vinapu said:

I have feeling you would do well in Arena, guys there are older and on muscly side but certainly they know well what fuck  is

I’m kinda looking for the younger guys actually and i’m not much into penetration.  I imagine i’m one of the easier clients to please.  I kinda have a fantasy i’m indulging of getting off with(seemingly) straight dudes.  I’m pretty sure the guy i was with last night was straight but he may have been thinking i wanted to hear that he was into men.  Just kissing/touching/happy ending is fine for me.  Maybe i’ll be more adventurous…

[reader]

1 hour ago, Dannyxxx said:

I’m kinda looking for the younger guys actually and i’m not much into penetration.  I imagine i’m one of the easier clients to please.  I kinda have a fantasy i’m indulging of getting off with(seemingly) straight dudes.  I’m pretty sure the guy i was with last night was straight but he may have been thinking i wanted to hear that he was into men.  Just kissing/touching/happy ending is fine for me.  Maybe i’ll be more adventurous…

Most of guys at FB are what I’ve come to refer to as “Bangkok straight.” They may prefer girls but know that their income depends on their ability to provide a satisfying experience for male customers. They are my favorite type of guys. 

I think you’ve already discovered that putting them at ease early on reaps dividends.
 

 

[Raposa]

2 hours ago, Dannyxxx said:

I’m kinda looking for the younger guys actually and i’m not much into penetration.  I imagine i’m one of the easier clients to please.  I kinda have a fantasy i’m indulging of getting off with(seemingly) straight dudes.  I’m pretty sure the guy i was with last night was straight but he may have been thinking i wanted to hear that he was into men.  Just kissing/touching/happy ending is fine for me.  Maybe i’ll be more adventurous…

Penetration is definitely on the table at Senso men club, it is reflected in the minimum tip. You might want to explore Paradise massage or Relax instead in the area.

Given your taste in boys, Arena might not be for you.

[Dannyxxx]

Took your advice on the foot massage at Greens. This is nice! My first real foot massage.  Plus i’m scoping out the hotties😈 P.S.- my room was only hot because i didnt realize i had to turn on the a/c myself

[khaolakguy]

4 hours ago, Dannyxxx said:

 I imagine i’m one of the easier clients to please.  I kinda have a fantasy i’m indulging of getting off with(seemingly) straight dudes.

Not sure that Senso will provide seemingly straight guys. On a recent visit my choice of the three available turned out to be quite camp after selection, and one of the remaining two went back to doing his makeup after rejection!

It was a very disappointing visit. Both massage and afters were barely perfunctory and were based on minimum effort required. Like washing the dishes.

I won't be going back, although noting that it was 2 or 3pm when I went and when I left there was more choice available.

[Keithambrose]

2 hours ago, Dannyxxx said:

Took your advice on the foot massage at Greens. This is nice! My first real foot massage.  Plus i’m scoping out the hotties😈 P.S.- my room was only hot because i didnt realize i had to turn on the a/c myself

My foot massage at Green turned into fucking pretty quickly! You need to convert foot massage to body massage,  and go upstairs.

 

[zoomomancs]

12 hours ago, Dannyxxx said:

Thanks.  I plan to.  I messaged KmanSpa on Line trying to schedule with a particular boy but haven’t received a response yet.  Any recommendations on a massage parlor that is a surefire thing for sex versus solely a massage?  I see so many posts on here but not sure which ones to pursue.  I’m into twunk/twink looking boys.  I see 9-teen is closeby to my hotel

My experience is that all of the lads in the massage shops on Soi 6 are looking to upsell to at least a happy ending or a lot more though the tip they suggest rapidly goes to 1000/1500/2000. Still where we come from that is not expensive for a good time. My tip is not to let them suggest it 50 minutes into a one hour massage, when little time is left, but start the 'fun' conversation a lot earlier if that's what you want.

[Dannyxxx]

2 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

My foot massage at Green turned into fucking pretty quickly! You need to convert foot massage to body massage,  and go upstairs.

 

Did do that even before I saw this comment!  After the wonderful foot/shoulder massage by a hot Thai guy I went back to my hotel a minute away and got some pizza.  I was in the mood for more so I hurried back to the store and went to the counter.  I ordered a 90 minute massage but I stipulated that I had to have it with the guy I was interacting with before.  They instantly agreed and had me wait about 5 minutes.  Went upstairs with him and I was nude for pretty much the whole thing.  It was enjoyable and I feel like this guy really puts effort into the massage.

2 hours ago, zoomomancs said:

My experience is that all of the lads in the massage shops on Soi 6 are looking to upsell to at least a happy ending or a lot more though the tip they suggest rapidly goes to 1000/1500/2000. Still where we come from that is not expensive for a good time. My tip is not to let them suggest it 50 minutes into a one hour massage, when little time is left, but start the 'fun' conversation a lot earlier if that's what you want.

Good advice.  I was getting worried that he wasn't going to get to business before the 90 minutes was up.  Thankfully he read the situation about 70 minutes in without even saying anything and was giving me a handy which felt great.  I asked him how much time was left and I think he said 2-3 minutes but that he would make it 10.  I complimented him on his strength and said he's so handsome and he offered to take his shirt off.  I was happy with that and asked if I could touch his arm and soon I was caressing his upper body as he was trying to finish me off.  I asked if he would be okay getting naked and he immediately obliged.  Knowing that time was up I asked him to get on top of me and let me blow him and he was fine with that.  I came pretty soon after and everyone was happy.  Gave him 2000 tip which he kindly accepted and gave me his name. I imagine he'd be happy to see me again before I leave and I think I will do that because I'm pretty sure we'd skip the foreplay next time and get right to it.  That was a blast. I'm having so much fun in such a short span of time and it's all readily accessible from my hotel.  Love this place and this forum!

On another note.  My message to KmanSpa was responded to and I'm happy to announce that the guy I flew halfway across the world to be with has accepted my offer for tomorrow.  It's not an overnight but I think this is the best way.  If we have a good time I can make him an offer and he can accept or not.  Either way I get two hours with this hottie tomorrow!  

So far I've spent 4600 baht at Freshboys on night 1,  4750 at The Green for two massages on day 2.  I 'll probably spend another 4000 tomorrow at Kmanspa.  Maybe I'll stop by Freshboys tonight but only to watch the boys and drink(Maybe 1 hour max).  I will not off anyone tonight.  I feel like massages are more fun for me because there's an unspoken game that's being played and it's a mystery what will happen versus offing someone feels a bit mechanical.  The guy I paid from FB dipped out the second we cleaned up.  

P.S.-Now every time I see a fellow guy like myself in these shops I'm wondering if it's my fellow forum members on here. Haha.  When I got  done with the foot massage the client next to me smiled and asked if I felt refreshed. I replied in the affirmative!

[jason1975]

55 minutes ago, Dannyxxx said:

So far I've spent 4600 baht at Freshboys on night 1,  4750 at The Green for two massages on day 2.  I 'll probably spend another 4000 tomorrow at Kmanspa.  Maybe I'll stop by Freshboys tonight but only to watch the boys and drink(Maybe 1 hour max).  I will not off anyone tonight.  I feel like massages are more fun for me because there's an unspoken game that's being played and it's a mystery what will happen versus offing someone feels a bit mechanical.  The guy I paid from FB dipped out the second we cleaned up. 

When you watch the show at Freshboys, get ready 100 baht notes to tip the big cock show performers!

[Dannyxxx]

6 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

When you watch the show at Freshboys, get ready 100 baht notes to tip the big cock show performers!

What time should I arrive for this spectacle?  I don't wanna stay more than an hour.  I only have 500 and 1000 baht notes left.  Any way I can break the 1000's without being wasteful?