Members stevenkesslar Posted February 20 Members Posted February 20 Warning signs for Trump in new polling Two new polls show the president’s approval rating is slipping. Just one more sign of how the mainstream media lies, and we should only believe the lies and hate of the MAGA hive on Tik Tok. When I voted for Trump, I do it for two reasons. Both of which America obviously needs. More money for Elon Musk. And more power for Elon Musk. Quote Donald Trump’s honeymoon may be wearing off. New polls show a majority of Americans say he has overstepped his presidential authority — and hasn’t done enough to address high prices. Quote
bucknaway Posted February 20 Posted February 20 It's early yet. Not even in office 2 months yet but he is moving fast and doing a lot more than any of us expected. It's going to be interesting to see where we are at 6 months from now especially since Doge is expected to continue for a number of years. Quote
Bingo T Dog Posted February 20 Posted February 20 35 minutes ago, bucknaway said: Not even in office 2 months yet but he is moving fast and doing a lot more than any of us expected. Is this in weekends at mar a Lago or golf games completed????????????? He sure likes to spend the tax payer money on crap!! Quote
Members stevenkesslar Posted February 20 Author Members Posted February 20 52 minutes ago, Bingo T Dog said: Is this in weekends at mar a Lago or golf games completed????????????? He sure likes to spend the tax payer money on crap!! Jared Polis: DOGE is ‘tearing down the old without necessarily having a more efficient way of doing it’ Quote “What is it that we need to accomplish with this agency? A, do we even need to accomplish it anymore, or is it counterproductive? B, if we do need to accomplish it: pretend it doesn’t exist — how do you create the most efficient possible system to do that for the least money, and to do it the best way from the ground up? And then kind of juxtapose and replace the old with the new,” he said. Quote “The way that they seem to be doing it is just sort of tearing down the old without necessarily having a more efficient way of doing it.” I think that sums it up. While he is unfortunately a DEI Gay hire, Polis is known as Gov. Efficiency among Democrats. So on matters like this, I overweight his opinions and experience. And I think the handwriting on the wall is basically, "They are good at breaking shit. Not governing." I mean, it's not like Trump won by a landslide in 2020 for his amazingly competent management of COVID. Ezra Klein argued recently that Polis is good at figuring out how to cut taxes, reduce costs, and cut regulations. And he does it constantly. I was with family in Denver for Thanksgiving, all Democrats. I asked the family members who lives there about it and they love the guy. Colorado had among the least slippage from blue to red in the 2024. My guess is Polis gave a good branding to the D label. I think Kasich and DeWine did the same in Ohio, focusing on good conservative governing and compromise rather than lies and bile. Which is why they win in landslides and have put good branding on the R label in Ohio. My MAGA niece who lives in Ohio of course thinks of DeWine as a RINO. She did not know he won re-election in a landslide in 2022, and did not know who Kevin McCarthy is. One of my brothers who was a university professor in Nevada nailed this point about a decade ago. He said the Tea Party legislature really seemed to want to tear down UNLV with no idea of how to rebuild what they destroyed. It was just take a sledgehammer and feel good about breakin shit. Since then the state has pretty much been run by Democrats. That said, it was also ground zero for where inflation and high rent really hurt lots of working class people. That got them a Republican Gov, barely. Breaking shit is not going to help Trump, and it is already showing. Democrats should focus like a laser on how to get through to and help working class people. Polis is a great example of how to do the efficiency and good governance piece. Trump and Musk are not. Quote
Members Pete1111 Posted February 21 Members Posted February 21 On 2/20/2025 at 11:49 AM, stevenkesslar said: Warning signs for Trump in new polling Two new polls show the president’s approval rating is slipping. Just one more sign of how the mainstream media lies, and we should only believe the lies and hate of the MAGA hive on Tik Tok. When I voted for Trump, I do it for two reasons. Both of which America obviously needs. More money for Elon Musk. And more power for Elon Musk. Are we supposed to care about polls again? Or is this just a cable news feature to drive up TV viewership and internet clicks? I don't trust their value, e.g how those polls will translate into change with this White House American's don't understand much these days. As Jimmie Chieng says, they don't read enough or have the vocabulary to foster ideas why they might want to resist MAGA. stevenkesslar 1 Quote
Members stevenkesslar Posted February 21 Author Members Posted February 21 3 hours ago, Pete1111 said: Are we supposed to care about polls again? Or is this just a cable news feature to drive up TV viewership and internet clicks? I don't trust their value, e.g how those polls will translate into change with this White House American's don't understand much these days. As Jimmie Chieng says, they don't read enough or have the vocabulary to foster ideas why they might want to resist MAGA. I'll defend polling in this sense. In 2024, and in most cycles, it has mostly been accurate. We knew this election was going to be close. And it was. Right now I think it is important because MAGA zealots want to claim Trump is more popular than ever. And he has a mandate to do lots of terrible things. The first part is half true. The fact that he has 48.5 % public approval today does mean he is more popular than ever. Which is sad. Of course, if @Barknway can believe that J6ers did not have weapons when they attacked cops, which most of the world and lots of judges and juries know from their own eyeballs is a whopping Trump lie, they can believe whatever they want about polls. The interesting question is why did Democrats reject the Sanders style of economic populism, while Republicans accepted the Trump brand of authoritarian populism? Sanders was at core about making the economy work for the screwed over working class, as Ronny outlines. Trump put his finger on the same cause and constituency, and came up with an authoritarian solution. He did not fix any of the problems Chieng outlined in his first term. Nor will he in his second. This is great news for billionaires, corporations, and all the winners in the income inequality divide. Tony Fabrizio, one of Trump's pollsters, said they modelled out how Trump could win and came up with a plan. He did not go into details. But I am sure part of it was that Trump absolutely needed to win the votes of young people who were in puberty in 2016. They have no real memory of Trump 1.0,. And many feel like Biden failed to keep their rent affordable or deliver on other promises, like student debt. I think their goal was probably to get 49.0000001 % of the vote, or whatever was needed to get an electoral college or popular vote win. And they got it, barely. So polling was effective in helping Team Trump figure out how to win the narrowest of victories. Democrats ought to be figuring out how to at least do that much. But the best thing would be to actually help the working class victims that Chieng describes. Trump can not and will not do that with his agenda. If Democrats want power, they will have to rise to the occasion and do that. Quote
Moses Posted February 25 Posted February 25 On 2/20/2025 at 10:49 PM, stevenkesslar said: Two new polls show the president’s approval rating is slipping. Polls in Politico? Are you kidding? You ran here with polls whole last summer. "Biden", "Harris". Where are now Biden and Harris? ALL (!!!) polls is US are "tuned" in interests of publisher/advertiser/owner/stakeholders. On both sides - Dems and Resps are the same when they are tuning polls. You will never know real picture in US. Quote
a-447 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Trump's monster ego has set him up for failure down the track, which will lead to a further slide in his popularity. There is no way the Palestinians will just roll over and give Trump what he demands. So failure number 1 will be his plans to turn the Gaza Strip into an adult fairyland. There is no way Greenland will surrender to his demand to take over their country. That's failure number 2. There is no way Panama will relinquish the canal. Is Trump going to send in the military? Hardly, especially as he told everyone he was going to be a president of peace. Failure number 3. There is no way the Canadians will agree to become a state of the U.S. Failure number 4. One thing Trump hates is to be seen as a loser. There's 4 examples already. stevenkesslar 1 Quote
Raposa Posted February 25 Posted February 25 I have put Bucknaway on my ignore list. It makes a huge difference for this particular subforum, pages load much quicker now that they are not clogged by his numberless videos. Try it! stevenkesslar 1 Quote
