Time to acknowledge that Putin is at war with ALL of Europe(and we can expect little help from US under Trump)

[khaolakguy]

Putin’s secret weapon: The threat to the UK lurking on our sea beds

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-3036d1db-da99-49b3-9d64-272472095d4a

 

These reports are all supported by other independent media sources.

[Moses]

Have the "Russia will attack" propaganda trumpets been turned on again?

In its entire history, Russia has never attacked either Britain or France. But the opposite happened in 1812 (France attacked Russia) and 1918 (British intervention in Russia)...

[floridarob]

Since they couldn't beat Ukraine and needed support from North Korea, I wouldn't be too worried 🤷‍♂️ 

[khaolakguy]

6 hours ago, Moses said:

Have the "Russia will attack" propaganda trumpets been turned on again?

Like those trumpets that warned of the impending Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022? While Russia's response was :

Putin says military drills 'purely defensive' and 'not a threat' as Western leaders warn invasion imminent.

 

[Moses]

2 hours ago, floridarob said:

Since they couldn't beat Ukraine and needed support from North Korea, I wouldn't be too worried

Why not use North Korea's soldier? It is better than mobilize own soldiers against their will. Ukraine pushing own population to fight for cocainist Zelenskiy and has already 16 waves of mobilization. Russia use N. Koreans instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_conscription_crisis

[unicorn]

4 minutes ago, Moses said:

Why not use North Korea's soldier? It is better than mobilize own soldiers against their will. Ukraine pushing own population to fight for cocainist Zelenskiy and has already 16 waves of mobilization. Russia use N. Koreans instead.

Disgusting. Russia has almost 4.5 times Ukraine's population, which is forced to use its own people to defend itself from an aggressor. And yet Putin has to use hapless troops from another country, troops who have no say in their fate. 

[Moses]

50 minutes ago, unicorn said:

from an aggressor

UN court denied Ukrainian demands to recognize Russia as aggressor. 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/world-court-rule-whether-russia-violated-international-treaties-ukraine-2024-01-31/

And here is map of countries where Russia is acknowledged as "aggressor" by national court (countries are marked by red):

[unicorn]

14 minutes ago, Moses said:

UN court denied Ukrainian demands to recognize Russia as aggressor. 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/world-court-rule-whether-russia-violated-international-treaties-ukraine-2024-01-31/

...
 

Wow. You're full of shit, as usual. As plainly described in the article (and I assume you're well-aware), the ruling simply declined assigning responsibility to Russia for the downing of the Malaysia Airlines flight in 2014, and had nothing to do with the more recent invasion.

" Judges at the top U.N. court on Wednesday found that Russia violated elements of a U.N. anti-terrorism treaty, but declined to rule on allegations brought by Kyiv that Moscow was responsible for the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine in 2014. In the same ruling, judges at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that Russia had breached an anti-discrimination treaty by failing to support Ukrainian language education in Crimea after its 2014 annexation of the peninsula...".

[floridarob]

2 hours ago, Moses said:

Why not use North Korea's soldier?

Maybe the most ridiculous thing I've seen you write....and that's saying something......Why didn't you volunteer ?

[khaolakguy]

24 minutes ago, Moses said:

UN court denied Ukrainian demands to recognize Russia as aggressor. 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/world-court-rule-whether-russia-violated-international-treaties-ukraine-2024-01-31/

 

The link provided refers to a case at the World Court relating that had nothing to do with "Russia as Aggressor", but was concerned with other matters:

THE HAGUE, Jan 31 (Reuters) - Judges at the top U.N. court on Wednesday found that Russia violated elements of a U.N. anti-terrorism treaty, but declined to rule on allegations brought by Kyiv that Moscow was responsible for the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine in 2014.

In the same ruling, judges at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that Russia had breached an anti-discrimination treaty by failing to support Ukrainian language education in Crimea after its 2014 annexation of the peninsula."

 

Now I am going back to my day job and you can continue your day job as a propagandist.

 

 

[khaolakguy]

15 minutes ago, floridarob said:

Maybe the most ridiculous thing I've seen you write....and that's saying something......Why didn't you volunteer ?

Perhaps they ran out of prisoners who wanted to be released to fight!

[Moses]

So, no one had any evidence that even one court in the world recognized Russia as an aggressor?

Did I understand correctly?

[unicorn]

41 minutes ago, Moses said:

So, no one had any evidence that even one court in the world recognized Russia as an aggressor?

Did I understand correctly?

Asinine statement, as you're well-aware. It's not up to courts to make such a determination. If you're going to put a map up, put up a map of those who voted for and against the UN resolution denouncing the Russian invasion. The only dingbat countries to vote with Russia were Belarus, Eritrea, North Korea, and Syria. Needless to say, the current Syrian government would have voted differently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_ES-11/1

(Yellow and blue countries either abstained or didn't vote)

[Moses]

1 hour ago, unicorn said:

Asinine statement, as you're well-aware. It's not up to courts to make such a determination. If you're going to put a map up, put up a map of those who voted for and against the UN resolution denouncing the Russian invasion. The only dingbat countries to vote with Russia were Belarus, Eritrea, North Korea, and Syria. Needless to say, the current Syrian government would have voted differently.

It's very good that you remembered this. On Monday, February 24, the US will no longer vote for this resolution.

And at the G7 meeting, the US demanded that the word "aggressor" be removed from the resolution. Therefore, the current G7 meeting will end with a communique in which Russia will no longer be an aggressor.

Brainwashing.

In the 2000s, the US and EU brainwashed everyone into thinking that Russia was an ally, after 2010 they brainwashed everyone into thinking that Russia was an enemy, and now the weather vane has changed again.

The propaganda brainwashing machine in action.

Meanwhile, Russia remained the same state, even with the same leader and constant policy - the policy of a strong and independent economy from World-Top-10 that follows its own interests.

[khaolakguy]

Did you notice the title of this thread included "and we(Europe) can expect no help from US under Trump" before bleating out your knee jerk reaction. Or even read the report from the BBC linked there? 

[Moses]

4 hours ago, khaolakguy said:

and we(Europe)

You are not "Europe". You are just the part of Europe. There are 50 countries in Europe of them only 27 are EU. 

And even among these 27 countries, unity "we" exists only in the minds of Brussels bureaucrats, while between the countries there are a number of rather serious and irreconcilable contradictions, as clearly demonstrated by Brexit (-1), and the constant squabbles between Macron and Scholz, and the escapades of Orban, Melloni, Duda, Fico, Polish homophobia and "LGBT-free zones", Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus (A NATO country has occupied an EU country, do you want to discuss it?), and the victory of the right-wing radicals in the Netherlands.

Excessive pride is a sin. And excessive self-confidence usually leads to disastrous results. Which is what Trump is demonstrating to you now.

[Moses]

This is long, 1.5 hours video. Nobody here will watch it in full. First 3 minutes will give you a lot anyway.

 

 

[floridarob]

12 minutes ago, Moses said:

Nobody here will watch it in full

You realize this is a board full of whores....know your audience 😵

[unicorn]

14 hours ago, Moses said:

...US and EU ... brainwashed everyone into thinking that Russia was an enemy...

Only a jackass would believe that the US and EU can "brainwash" people who aren't even their citizens.