Why is Elon Musk such a disgusting, despicable, lawless, cruel, and arrogant human being?

[stevenkesslar]

The Contentious History Between Elon Musk and Former FAA Administrator Mike Whitaker

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Musk blamed the FAA for nothing short of stifling the dreams of the human race as a whole. “The fundamental problem,” he posted on Sept. 17, “is that humanity will forever be confined to Earth unless there is radical reform at the FAA!”

Here's some good news for people heartbroken about this tragedy.

Musk won't last.  That is now certain.  Trump does not like messes he did not cause.  Even though he would never admit that publicly.  And only Trump is arrogant enough to think God chose him to save the human race.  Having JD for an obedient lap dog who backs his attacks on the FAA?  That's fine.  Having a No. 2 in the job of saving the human race?  Or at least savings America?  Or Trumpland, or whatever he thinks it is?  That's too much.

And if Trump is too weak to do it, time for Democrats to kick in.  This guy needs to go.  What an arrogant, awful, despicable, and totally useless piece of shit.  Ugh!

Maybe he can figure out how to actually get people to the moon safely some day.  Great.  Do that. Try to do something good.  But all he has done for weeks is systematically attack and humiliate the FAA, among other government agencies.  Why?  FOR DOING ITS JOB.  FOR UPHOLDING PUBLIC SAFETY.  FOR HAVING THE BALLS TO FINE THE ARROGANT FUCKER FOR VIOLATING PUBLIC SAFETY.

Fire the asshole.  Or let him resign for the good of the nation and FAA, like Republicans forced Washington to do.  But Musk of course has neither the character nor humility to do that.  He is just arrogant, small, and cruel.

 

[Suckrates]

6 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

The Contentious History Between Elon Musk and Former FAA Administrator Mike Whitaker

Here's some good news for people heartbroken about this tragedy.

Musk won't last.  That is now certain.  Trump does not like messes he did not cause.  Even though he would never admit that publicly.  And only Trump is arrogant enough to think God chose him to save the human race.  Having JD for an obedient lap dog who backs his attacks on the FAA?  That's fine.  Having a No. 2 in the job of saving the human race?  Or at least savings America?  Or Trumpland, or whatever he thinks it is?  That's too much.

And if Trump is too weak to do it, time for Democrats to kick in.  This guy needs to go.  What an arrogant, awful, despicable, and totally useless piece of shit.  Ugh!

Maybe he can figure out how to actually get people to the moon safely some day.  Great.  Do that. Try to do something good.  But all he has done for weeks is systematically attack and humiliate the FAA, among other government agencies.  Why?  FOR DOING ITS JOB.  FOR UPHOLDING PUBLIC SAFETY.  FOR HAVING THE BALLS TO FINE THE ARROGANT FUCKER FOR VIOLATING PUBLIC SAFETY.

Fire the asshole.  Or let him resign for the good of the nation and FAA, like Republicans forced Washington to do.  But Musk of course has neither the character nor humility to do that.  He is just arrogant, small, and cruel.

 

To answer your question, because he is OBSCENELY rich, and is getting a big kick out of living his fetish of OWNING Trump and America , and he CAN !.

And as long as the American people continue to allow him to, he will continue taking them down his destructive path, and doing Nazi salutes all the way.

[stevenkesslar]

6 hours ago, Suckrates said:

And as long as the American people continue to allow him to

Agreed.

But as a footnote I will add that the American people never voted for this guy.

They never voted for Trump, in a way.  He has never actually won 50 % of the vote.  Neither did Bill Clinton, to be fair.  But that was because both times Clinton ran Perot was a significant third party candidate.  Trump ran in a two way race and he could still not get 50 % of America to back him.

America certainly never voted for Musk.  He is a special interest corrupt political donor who feels he is above the law and can buy a Presidency or buy whatever he wants.  And he is particularly inept and emotionally immature in how he does it.  It's worse than trump.  "Look at me!  Look at me!  I can fire the people who keep America safe!  What could possibly go wrong?  Look at me!
 

 

Sorry, but I'll go data geek now.  What scared me a few weeks ago but maybe isn't as bad as it seemed is what young people, especially young men, think about Musk. 

Democrats now have a young male problem - both White and Hispanic.  And they have a young Black male problem, too.  But with young Black men it's more that they are just alienated, period.  They wouldn't vote for Harris because they didn't care.  That hurt her in Philly, Miwaukee, Detroit.  With a lot of young White and Hispanic men, and possibly Asian men, it is that they are attracted to this stuff.  Elon is the great entrepreneur.  Elon will save us.  He'll bring us to the moon, when people mostly just want to be able to fly from Kansas to DC safely.

YouGov polls this stuff about weekly, so they make it easy to track.  In their Jan 5-8 poll, Musk had 43/46 net disapproval.    In their new Jan 26-28 poll it's 44/48 net disapproval.  How Musk fired the competent FAA head because he feels above the law and doesn't want to be accountable to public safety has only begun to play out.  So that new poll could not have measured it.  But in both polls, Musk does not have the approval of even a plurality of Americans.  This asshole is NOT what America wants.  By the time his attacks on the FAA and public safety became known, more people will likely feel he was a DANGEROUS HIRE.

What I found scary in the early Jan. poll is that even though Musk overall had a net 43/46 disapproval rating, among voters aged 18-29 it was 48/42 net approval,  And among all men, in both polls, Musk has 53/42 net approval.  So it is safe to assume a lot of young men like this guy.  He's their Daddy, or their entrepreneur role model, or the cool guy that owns X, or whatever.

Now he's the guy with a distaste for public safety, the law, and FAA efforts to keep Americans safe.  So we'll see.  But even by this latest YouGov poll voters aged 18-29 now net disapprove of Musk, 43/47.  So the respect was never deserved, and didn't last long.  In the latest poll Musk actually gained a little approval among older voters who are conservative and now probably see him as Trump's ranting oligarch and special interest billionaire donor.

Democrats have to be clear in attacking this asshole that this is not what America voted for.  He represents a minority of Americans who are happy to trash democracy, trash public safety, and watch special interest billionaires get their taxes cut as they try to destroy the government they don't want taxing and regulating them.

[Suckrates]

17 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said:

Agreed.

But as a footnote I will add that the American people never voted for this guy.

They never voted for Trump, in a way.  He has never actually won 50 % of the vote.  Neither did Bill Clinton, to be fair.  But that was because both times Clinton ran Perot was a significant third party candidate.  Trump ran in a two way race and he could still not get 50 % of America to back him.

America certainly never voted for Musk.  He is a special interest corrupt political donor who feels he is above the law and can buy a Presidency or buy whatever he wants.  And he is particularly inept and emotionally immature in how he does it.  It's worse than trump.  "Look at me!  Look at me!  I can fire the people who keep America safe!  What could possibly go wrong?  Look at me!
 

 

Sorry, but I'll go data geek now.  What scared me a few weeks ago but maybe isn't as bad as it seemed is what young people, especially young men, think about Musk. 

Democrats now have a young male problem - both White and Hispanic.  And they have a young Black male problem, too.  But with young Black men it's more that they are just alienated, period.  They wouldn't vote for Harris because they didn't care.  That hurt her in Philly, Miwaukee, Detroit.  With a lot of young White and Hispanic men, and possibly Asian men, it is that they are attracted to this stuff.  Elon is the great entrepreneur.  Elon will save us.  He'll bring us to the moon, when people mostly just want to be able to fly from Kansas to DC safely.

YouGov polls this stuff about weekly, so they make it easy to track.  In their Jan 5-8 poll, Musk had 43/46 net disapproval.    In their new Jan 26-28 poll it's 44/48 net disapproval.  How Musk fired the competent FAA head because he feels above the law and doesn't want to be accountable to public safety has only begun to play out.  So that new poll could not have measured it.  But in both polls, Musk does not have the approval of even a plurality of Americans.  This asshole is NOT what America wants.  By the time his attacks on the FAA and public safety became known, more people will likely feel he was a DANGEROUS HIRE.

What I found scary in the early Jan. poll is that even though Musk overall had a net 43/46 disapproval rating, among voters aged 18-29 it was 48/42 net approval,  And among all men, in both polls, Musk has 53/42 net approval.  So it is safe to assume a lot of young men like this guy.  He's their Daddy, or their entrepreneur role model, or the cool guy that owns X, or whatever.

Now he's the guy with a distaste for public safety, the law, and FAA efforts to keep Americans safe.  So we'll see.  But even by this latest YouGov poll voters aged 18-29 now net disapprove of Musk, 43/47.  So the respect was never deserved, and didn't last long.  In the latest poll Musk actually gained a little approval among older voters who are conservative and now probably see him as Trump's ranting oligarch and special interest billionaire donor.

Democrats have to be clear in attacking this asshole that this is not what America voted for.  He represents a minority of Americans who are happy to trash democracy, trash public safety, and watch special interest billionaires get their taxes cut as they try to destroy the government they don't want taxing and regulating them.

 

Musk is a "squatter" in the White House,  unelected and unwanted...... But he seems to be the "acting" President.  Young males have small brains who look at Musk and say "He's COOL"  "He's uber Rich"   aND he's smarter than Trump so they are OK with him taking the lead.   But more than just young males make up America, and only if these other people join forces and RESIST will we see "the fall of Musk"......   Musk believes he PURCHSED America, so he's executing his "purchase power"..... Cant blame him, BUT thats not how things work in a Democratic government.     Musk needs to stay in his "space" lane and just reap his fortune, which he will..   But as Must sucks up most of the spotlight, Trump will get more and more irate, and at some point the damn will burst.  Trumps always must be #1...... and Musk is dimming his light and air time . 

Trump doesnt wear all that Orange makeup for nuthin.....    Leapin Musk MUST go !   

But Musk claims.....

 

[Stable Genius]

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[lookin]

1 hour ago, Suckrates said:

Trump doesnt wear all that Orange makeup for nuthin.....    Leapin Musk MUST go !   

Well, he won't go empty-handed, that's for sure.

After trying for a week or so, he now has access to the federal payment system.  It's the federal government's 6 trillion dollar checking account used to pay salaries for federal workers, Social Security, Medicare, tax refunds and payments to grant recipients and government contractors - including Musk's competitors.

Previously, only a small number of Treasury Department career officials had access to the system but now Musk and his 'DOGE' buddies have their hands on the account.  That's thanks to Scott Bessent, Trump's newly appointed Treasury Secretary who turned over access to the personal data of millions of Americans who never imagined Elon Musk would have access to their financial and medical information.

Don't get me wrong.  It's possible he's not looking for a few trillion dollars to fund tax breaks for billionaires, and he may find that I've actually overpaid my taxes and Donald Trump has underpaid his.  And if my Social Security checks go up and my Medicare payments come down, I'll be sure to post an update.

In the meantime, here's hoping that none of these new super-users gets hacked. 🤞

 

[Suckrates]

47 minutes ago, lookin said:

Well, he won't go empty-handed, that's for sure.

After trying for a week or so, he now has access to the federal payment system.  It's the federal government's 6 trillion dollar checking account used to pay salaries for federal workers, Social Security, Medicare, tax refunds and payments to grant recipients and government contractors - including Musk's competitors.

Previously, only a small number of Treasury Department career officials had access to the system but now Musk and his 'DOGE' buddies have their hands on the account.  That's thanks to Scott Bessent, Trump's newly appointed Treasury Secretary who turned over access to the personal data of millions of Americans who never imagined Elon Musk would have access to their financial and medical information.

Don't get me wrong.  It's possible he's not looking for a few trillion dollars to fund tax breaks for billionaires, and he may find that I've actually overpaid my taxes and Donald Trump has underpaid his.  And if my Social Security checks go up and my Medicare payments come down, I'll be sure to post an update.

In the meantime, here's hoping that none of these new super-users gets hacked. 🤞

 

 

There MUST be, or needs to be laws against UNelected, non-govt individual having access to confidential, sensitive information.   While Trump may benefit from "absolute immunity"  Leapin Musk DOES NOT.   Now Trump may say he needs this info to do the job he "purchased",  but there is no legal precedent for it.  Its all shady and underhanded, and an extreme Over reach by Musk.   Where are the Fucking DEMS ?     They should be hootin and hollerin, and while Trump is clearly the author of all this corruption and chaos,  the Dems are being complicit, which doesnt serve them well if they want to regain power down the road.   While Trump takes a wrecking ball to our government and democracy, the Dems are just holding their wheel barrel for the Debris....   Its ENRAGING.   

For all the praise heaped on Hakeem Jeffries, he is a huge disappointment.   The fact that the Dems gave ANY of Trumps cabinet nominees a vote infuriates me.   If tables were turned, GOP would not be giving Dems any votes on anyone.   While we may not be able to win every argument,  Dems can certainly put up obstacles.   They are FAILING big time !    

 

[stevenkesslar]

2 hours ago, lookin said:

It's possible he's not looking for a few trillion dollars to fund tax breaks for billionaires, and he may find that I've actually overpaid my taxes and Donald Trump has underpaid his.

WHEN THIS ARROGANT CRUEL MAN OPENS HIS MOUTH, LIES AND IGNORANCE COME OUT.  HE HAS NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT, LET ALONE DOING.

HE CAN AND HAS GOTTEN PEOPLE KILLED.  HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT "PUBLIC SAFETY". 

HE NEEDS TO RESIGN OR BE FIRED.  IMMEDIATELY.

 

I was going to post on that, @Lookin.  But I figured even verbose me needs to have some limit.

But here's the most despicable part about that:

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“The @DOGE team discovered, among other things, that payment approval officers at Treasury were instructed always to approve payments, even to known fraudulent or terrorist groups,” Musk wrote. “They literally never denied a payment in their entire career. Not even once.”

Yes, and he forget to mention DEI created terrorism in the US, as well.

What we don't quite know about Musk yet is whether he is so stupid that he believes what he says.  Or whether he is so cynical and dishonest, like Trump, that he enjoys misleading and hurting people.  Like Trump, it may make him feel him like an important person.  Maybe he likes knowing he can not only fly you to the moon, but get you killed when you are simply flying home through his attacks and ignorance and cruelty.

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Federal agencies reported $236 billion in improper payments in the 2024 fiscal year. The bulk came from Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment insurance, pandemic relief loans to small businesses, Treasury’s earned income tax credit and Social Security payments.

If Musk can help us get that to $237 billion or $238 billion,  like by leaning on Trump to stop being a felon and cheat, great.  I think the federal government already knew that people like Musk sometimes cheat.  So far, Musk is twenty steps behind everyone else.  Including the FAA, and even Trump.  He has no fucking clue what he is talking about.  And so when he opens his mouth and says false things, he either lies, or simply makes us all more ignorant.

He needs to go.

[Stable Genius]

The world's poorest men, women and children are now literally dying at the hands of the world's richest man.

[Suckrates]

6 hours ago, Stable Genius said:

The world's poorest men, women and children are now literally dying at the hands of the world's richest man.

 

YUP, and HE and MAGA are LOVING every second of it !  

[Stable Genius]

[stevenkesslar]

Happily, the verdict on Elon Musk is starting to come in.

Could you guys please excuse me just a minute?

Elon Musk, turn to shit

Elon Musk, turn to shit.

Elon Musk, turn to shit.

There.  I thought maybe if I clicked my heels and said it three times, we could speed things up.   Musk will be fired or forced out.  Trump will not let anyone turn him to shit.  And Elon is already starting to.  What a shocker!

So I have to go data geek on this.

It horrified me in a YouGov poll before Trump's coronation that Musk was particularly popular among young voters, especially young men.  To be specific, in a Jan 5-8 You Gov poll Musk was 43/46 unfavorable.  So three points net unfavorable.  Not great.  But among voters 18-29, it was 48/42 favorable.  They were the only age group that saw Musk net favorably.  Meanwhile, in that early January survey, men liked Musk (53/42) while women disliked him (34/50). 

So my assumption was that Musk is pretty popular among young men who used to be kinda sorta Berniecrats.  Makes sense.  Rogan was for Bernie before he was for Trump.

Things have changed.  In a Feb 2-4 YouGov poll Musk is now 43/49 net unfavorable.  Not a huge shift, yet.  My sense is, "Give it time."  He is still wildly unpopular among women.  Among men it is now only 50/46 favorable.  So he barely has a majority of men on his side, and he is losing that it seems.

Among the young, 19-29, massive shift.  He is now 37/52 unfavorable.  So he moved from six points net favorable among young voters to 15 points net unfavorable.

This is a twofer.

I was worried that maybe young men actually like this.  The two brave female House members who stormed into Speaker Johnson's office today were criticized as being "rude" and "extremely aggressive" in their effort to protect our most basic privacy.  Ya think?  After what Musk is doing?  So there is no evidence so far that voters like what the cruel asshole is doing.  Quite the opposite, especially among young voters.  Trump reads the polls.  He ain't gonna like this.

It also confirms, I think, that a lot of young voters, especially guys, cast ignorant votes.  They are tuned out of politics.  And for some all it took was an amusing Nelk Boys video saying Harris sucks, and is all about pronouns.  The fact that opinions could shift so quickly when someone attacks the government (and student loans - that's coming) says maybe these people didn't really understand exactly what they were voting for, after all.  Who knew?

It helps.  Because when the prodigal sons want to come home I think they should be welcome. But that is only after much more endless pain and misery.

Who needed student loans anyway?  Now we have a rich Daddy who knows how to protect us. 

We just have to figure out which Daddy.  Or not.  Trump will do that for us, too.

Or maybe Bernie.  Sanders is viewed favorably, 47/29, among Zoomer voters.  So there is no wave toward cruelty and Musk's brand of toxic masculinity.

[Suckrates]

42 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said:

Happily, the verdict on Elon Musk is starting to come in.

Could you guys please excuse me just a minute?

Elon Musk, turn to shit

Elon Musk, turn to shit.

Elon Musk, turn to shit.

There.  I thought maybe if I clicked my heels and said it three times, we could speed things up.   Musk will be fired or forced out.  Trump will not let anyone turn him to shit.  And Elon is already starting to.  What a shocker!

So I have to go data geek on this.

It horrified me in a YouGov poll before Trump's coronation that Musk was particularly popular among young voters, especially young men.  To be specific, in a Jan 5-8 You Gov poll Musk was 43/46 unfavorable.  So three points net unfavorable.  Not great.  But among voters 18-29, it was 48/42 favorable.  They were the only age group that saw Musk net favorably.  Meanwhile, in that early January survey, men liked Musk (53/42) while women disliked him (34/50). 

So my assumption was that Musk is pretty popular among young men who used to be kinda sorta Berniecrats.  Makes sense.  Rogan was for Bernie before he was for Trump.

Things have changed.  In a Feb 2-4 YouGov poll Musk is now 43/49 net unfavorable.  Not a huge shift, yet.  My sense is, "Give it time."  He is still wildly unpopular among women.  Among men it is now only 50/46 favorable.  So he barely has a majority of men on his side, and he is losing that it seems.

Among the young, 19-29, massive shift.  He is now 37/52 unfavorable.  So he moved from six points net favorable among young voters to 15 points net unfavorable.

This is a twofer.

I was worried that maybe young men actually like this.  The two brave female House members who stormed into Speaker Johnson's office today were criticized as being "rude" and "extremely aggressive" in their effort to protect our most basic privacy.  Ya think?  After what Musk is doing?  So there is no evidence so far that voters like what the cruel asshole is doing.  Quite the opposite, especially among young voters.  Trump reads the polls.  He ain't gonna like this.

It also confirms, I think, that a lot of young voters, especially guys, cast ignorant votes.  They are tuned out of politics.  And for some all it took was an amusing Nelk Boys video saying Harris sucks, and is all about pronouns.  The fact that opinions could shift so quickly when someone attacks the government (and student loans - that's coming) says maybe these people didn't really understand exactly what they were voting for, after all.  Who knew?

It helps.  Because when the prodigal sons want to come home I think they should be welcome. But that is only after much more endless pain and misery.

Who needed student loans anyway?  Now we have a rich Daddy who knows how to protect us. 

We just have to figure out which Daddy.  Or not.  Trump will do that for us, too.

Or maybe Bernie.  Sanders is viewed favorably, 47/29, among Zoomer voters.  So there is no wave toward cruelty and Musk's brand of toxic masculinity.

Gurl, you must have taken a Viagra, cause you be movin WAY TOO FAST.......     Musk WILL NOT be fired...well not yet anyway......   Trump still has several financial judgements against him which will require Mucks moolah.  And he will keep Musk around as a handy scapegoat if he needs someone else to pin his illegality on..... Trump will say  "Musk did it, and I barely even KNEW him".....      Not enough damage has been done yet, and Trump seems to be keep his hands clean and lettin Musk get HIS dirty....     So calm down Boo, and dont plan any Farewell fiestas for Musk just yet......   Lets just keep an eye on it !   

[Stable Genius]

Folks, the Musk people are dark web criminals and they are selling all your identifying info linked to your bank account numbers right now.

I’d look at locking your accounts.

[Suckrates]

20 minutes ago, Stable Genius said:

Folks, the Musk people are dark web criminals and they are selling all your identifying info linked to your bank account numbers right now.

I’d look at locking your accounts.

Musk is shrewd, evil, hateful and DANGEROUS.  He is orchestrating a World Takeover right before our eyes... He is using Trump and the White House, who he purchased for about $300 million....

He MUST be Stopped !   🖐️

[Suckrates]

 

Elon Musk obviously plotting AGAINST America.  Gathering personal and private info of ALL Americans.  WHAT FOR ?

MAGA may be too Dumb and star struck to care, but the rest of US must stay engaged and take action.  What does that mean against a CORRUPT govt ?   I dont know, but there must be Think tanks somewhere convened to deal with this Dangerous period for America.   President Musk and First Lady Trump are a dangerous Duo.   Not only is Musk willing to hurt Americans by his destructions on programs that HELP the needy,  he is targeting vulnerable and needy adults and CHILDREN around the world.  This is a move towards WORLD domination,

Not since Boris and Natasha has there been a more evil and dangerous Pair.  

[stevenkesslar]

On 2/5/2025 at 7:34 PM, Suckrates said:

      Not enough damage has been done yet, and Trump seems to be keep his hands clean and lettin Musk get HIS dirty....     So calm down Boo, and dont plan any Farewell fiestas for Musk just yet......   Lets just keep an eye on it !   

I actually just saw that.  I agree with you.

One thing everyone agrees is that Trump is a creature of his own whims.  Which everyone has to know, and play to.  Even Susie Wiles can lose it and look exasperated on camera.  So I would not predict when Trump's whims may suddenly change and he has had enough of Musk.  But it will probably have something to do with Musk becoming more unpopular and hogging the limelight.  Which means Trump is less loved, and gets less limelight.  What could be worse?

My main point, to put it in very dramatic terms, is that I thought maybe suddenly we had a Hitler Youth in America.  For some reason, a month ago, Musk was more popular with young voters than anyone else.  And that had to lean heavily on young men.  In other words, the people we counted on being The Emerging Democratic Majority.  That is a potential death sentence for Democrats.

The shift against Musk in one month, from six points net approval to -15 net disapproval, was seemingly massive.  So I am taking that, perhaps prematurely, as a death sentence for Musk.  Whatever young voters saw in him - entrepreneur, social media genius - is vaporizing before our eyes.  So far, it fits into my hope that it was the economy, stupid.  And the inflation, stupid.  And the rent, stupid.  It was a vote against Biden and inflation, not for Trump and Musk, among young voters that put the decisive nail in Kamala's coffin.  It could change by 2026 or 2028.  And may be starting to already.

Meanwhile, the pain and damage will continue and grow.  But the evidence so far is that this is NOT what young voters want. When they attack students loans, I think that gets a lot worse.  I think young voters do want the government on their side. They may be frustrated or ignorant about why Biden, thanks to Trump's SCOTUS, could not fully deliver on his student loan promises.  But let's wait and see what happens when they gut or eliminate the Dept. of Education and let predatory lenders run amok. That is already locked and loaded.  To quote our sadistic asshole who wants to normalize hate, not to mention predatory lending, "CFPB RIP."  

I know you don't really mean you can't wait to see how this turns out.  Because, as you keep saying, it will be painful and exhausting.  Speaking of young people, or kids, when you tell someone young not to put their hand on the fire or they will get burned, you hope they listen.  When they don't, they get burned.  It is painful.  And sad.

 

[Suckrates]

First, we have already seen how Trump feels about "classified info".... He has NO respect for it and doesnt guard it....  I believe Musk feels the SAME way about it, and wants to gather all this info so he can "leverage" it, but against who ?   Our Enemies perhaps ?  Sell lists of American citizens private info to enemy nations for WHATEVER.... Trump wouldnt care, as long as HE would get a cut.....So theres THAT piece.....

Second, as for Musk longevity, as I said, Musk will stay and be protected as long as he is of use TO TRUMP....but I suspect he is gonna be the "fall guy" when shit goes down ?

Trump will continue to be the outward "face" of the Presidency, with his Trump brand doing interviews and press conferences and meeting with dignitaries, where he is in front of cameras getting "all" the attention, having reporters grovel and fawn over him, while his henchman Musk lurks behind the scenes doing ALL the damage with his wrecking ball.  But once all the "first 100 days work" is done per Project 2025,  Musks usefulness will wane, and Trump will give him the boot because of his UNpopularity and claim he (Trump) wasnt aware of all the things Musk was doing, and that Musk went rogue...  Musk is roadkill, and Trump is a hero again for booting "Musk the Destroyer"...   

Pretty smart for an Orange MORON, right ?   Always the WINNER. 

[stevenkesslar]

2 hours ago, Suckrates said:

Second, as for Musk longevity, as I said, Musk will stay and be protected as long as he is of use TO TRUMP....but I suspect he is gonna be the "fall guy" when shit goes down ?

Trump would never do that!

Would he? 😉

[Suckrates]

5 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

Trump would never do that!

Would he? 😉

 

But heres where it gets JUICY !     After spending 300 million $$$, Musk wont go quietly, and he now knows where all the bodies are buried.   With all the illegal corrupt and illegal things going on in front of our faces, IMAGINE what they are doing behind our backs ?   Trump made a BIG mistake by allowing Musk  "to rifle thru his underwear drawers" (thats a metaphor 😏)   Musk HAS all that info and can take Trump down AND hurt America at the same time....  And by blaming Musk for everything, Trump can take Musk down and hurt HIS companies..... So the question IS who will be the FIRST to go down ?????

 

BUT in the meantime, WE will all suffer hardship, as Musk told us, and Trump said things will get tough.   I am willing to TOUGH IT OUT if it means in the end, they BOTH go down....THEY HAVE TO !   (but then theres always still MAGA)