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Posted
13 hours ago, Marc in Calif said:

Surabaya also doesn't offer you what you're looking for. Its coastal condo complexes are in the far east of the city -- in the mangrove swamps!

Thanks for your reply.

What Surabaya would offer me is a starting point in Indonesia (as I already have a friend there) that is not Jakarta - for the same reason that I do not live in Bangkok and would not give consideration to living in Manila either.  Bali would be a place to visit but I don't see my self retiring in Bali for the same reasons that I would not retire in Phuket.

13 hours ago, Marc in Calif said:

My pick for an urban center with a few high-rise complexes that have ocean views would be Makassar, the largest city on Sulawesi island (and in all of eastern Indonesia). It's a lovely "smaller" city (pop. 1.5 million), walkable, with malls and other attractions.

Thanks for this suggestion - as it sounds like what I would be looking for - similar to the gem that I found on Mactan Island in the Megaworld Mactan Newtown township.

Can you comment if the beaches in Makassar are:

  • open and free and walkable like in Jomtien?   Unfortunately, it seems that 98% of the beaches on Mactan island are not free and consequently, not walkable for kilometers like the Jomtien beaches are.
  • Is the sea water clean?  clear?  turquoise? swimmable? 
  • Is the sand rocky, crushed coral, natural, or like Boracay's wonderful white powder ?
13 hours ago, Marc in Calif said:

Most of the guys are circumcised

This is nice to know.  It is not a requirement but an added niceness to being able to taste and play with variety.

Posted
2 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

Day 59 (25 February 2025) – Safari day

 

Wake up muy pronto to be ready at 7:30am to meet Mr. B. in a taxi that will take us to the Cebu Safari and Adventure Park.  Mr. B. was crafty to convince the taxi driver who brought us to IT Park yesterday to bring us to this far away Safari Park.  As this place is off-the-grid on the Grab app, it is impossible to arrange for it via the app.  Mr. B. negotiates a fixed all day price of 4.000 pesos ( ~ $69.09 USD)  for the taxi driver to:

1.       drive us to the Safari Park,

2.       wait for us outside in the parking lot,

3.       drive us back to Cebu city.

Driving time to the Safari Park was 1 hour and 41 minutes and the return trip took 2 hours and 13 minutes.  The distance is around 50km and the last part is slow going, as it requires going up the mountain on a narrow road.

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The Cebu Safari and Adventure Park is an adventure and safari park located in Carmen, Cebu, Philippines, founded by Michel J. Lhuillier and Eduard J. Loop, and covers 170 hectares with more than a thousand animals from 120 different species. It is considered as the biggest zoological park in the Philippines.  These owners supposedly also own the La Vie Parisienne restaurant, which we visited in my Day 24 (21 January 2025) trip report update.

image.png.60a477df587221d1bbefe494e614328c.png  https://www.facebook.com/cebusafari/

 

Normally, I do not like to visit zoos because when I see the animals in their cages it makes me sad.  However, I will make an exception for well run Safari Parks – and this Cebu version was well worth the money and time and effort that was taken to go and visit it.  The majority of the animals were not in cages – except for the few large bird aviaries, where it was necessary to put high up mesh screening to prevent them from flying away.

Even though it was a Tuesday, we had to pay the weekend rate of 1,300 pesos ( ~ $22.46 USD) per person, because in this part of the Cebu province, they were still celebrating the 88th Charter Day holiday for 2 consecutive days - instead of only 1 day back in Cebu city.

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Latest admission rates as of 01-Dec-2024

This place is enormous and can require a lot of pleasant walking.  Alternatively, they have shuttle trams that can take you all over the Safari Partk.

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Above map is interactive at: https://heyzine.com/flip-book/67bd8cbeda.html

One of the convincing activities that made me say yes to this trip was to have another chance to go ziplining.  The last time that I was able to go ziplining was back in 2015, as reported in my Chiang Mai trip report at:

At the admission counter, we needed to state what kind of package that we wanted to purchase and due to the inclement and raining weather, the ziplining was not permitted today.  I was really disappointed and this kind of put me in a mood to be disappointed with this Safari Park.

But, I truly found it enjoyable, as the curators created it in such a way that the layout was divided into distinct zones that allowed you to see very diverse animals in their semi correct realistic habitats:

  • Deer District,
  • Tiger Turf,
  • Orangutown,
  • Stunning bird aviaries,
  • Outpost area,
  • African Savanna – where it was required to enter into caged in trucks where you were then driven into a very secure safari area, where the wild animals were free to roam around. 

--> This African Savanna zone was my favorite area – as it consisted of an area where we could see giraffes, zebras and some different types of different antelopes.  Further on, we were able to see cheetahs, hyenas (which I hate this animal – especially when it laughs – that sound sends chills down my spine), and majestic lions – which was really special for me, because just before departing for Cebu, back in Thailand, my Thai boyfriend invited me to go see the Disney movie = Mufasa – The Lion King, in Pattaya. 

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I generally am not a big fan of these types of Disney animated films – as I much prefer real life drama and action films.  But, I have to say that this film left a big impression on me and when I saw the 2 lions and heard the 2 lions (Ben and Ken), in today’s Safari Park suddenly start to roar very loudly when our caged safari truck stopped near them (the lions were reacting to 3 other (I believe female) lions that were roaring in another part of the safari park) – which caused Ben and Ken to start roaring.  I was like = WOW = I must record this and send it to my Thai boyfriend, as he just loves the Mufasa movie. 

I said to him, “why are they roaring so much?” 

He replied, “they want to know when are you coming back to Jomtien to your lion cub??

 

 

Ben and Ken roaring in the Cebu Safari Park on 25-Feb-2025 

A very touching response, which made Mr. B. and my safari adventure much more endearing.

Unfortunately, the intermittent rain made some parts of the exhibitions very annoying – especially in the 2 large bird aviaries – however, the birds were very happy and making so much noise and a big fuss – so it was worth it to get used to these big accumulated rain drops, which would form on the mesh nets, and then fall down on you and then bounce off of your head.  Yuck - so wet.

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The park did supply us with these really BIG park umbrellas – but we were not allowed to use them in the bird aviaries – as they would scare and upset the birds.

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The safari park provided us with gratuitous umbrellas - which saved the day

After many many hours of walking around we take a break at the Michelangelo Pizzeria and eat our lunches.  We call our waiting taxi driver and ask him if he wants us to bring him any food from the restaurant, but he tells us that he already ate in the park canteen.

Then we worked our way back to the main entrance to see the parts of the park that we had not yet seen, and then we finished at the principal roundabout of the park, for some photos:

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I include the below 2 links to some external information about this amazing safari park – as I do not want to bombard our gayguides.com server with too many photos.

https://www.judethetourist.com/cebu-safari-and-adventure-park-2023/

Returned our 2 safari park umbrellas (included in the entrance price) to the front desk and we enter into our waiting taxi for the long journey back to Cebu, requiring 2 hours and 13 minutes.  Mr. B. exits at his boarding house and I exit at the Ayala mall to go and eat my dinner at Gianni’s.  Then I go back to my condo room, browse the internet for a while, watch some YouTube, chat with my Thai boyfriend and go to sleep by 10:30pm, as I am very tired from all of that walking and I need to get up early again tomorrow morning so that I can go to the Immigration Office.

 

No massages or extra-curricular activities today.

 

Day 59 (25 February 2025) concluded

I like the idea of a 'gratuitous umbrella'!

Posted
1 hour ago, Keithambrose said:

I like the idea of a 'gratuitous umbrella'!

Yes, me too. 

I was trying to play around with different ways that I could express that idea and related feeling that it gave me, when the safari park personnel insisted that we take umbrellas with us before we started our journey.  I was trying to be overly optimistic that it would not rain on us, as the local meteorologists only anticipated a 27% chance of rain for yesterday.

I just now checked in Grok if what I wrote is not stylistically correct - but Grok seems to say that it is ok in a weird way.

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Posted
On 2/24/2025 at 6:40 PM, Olddaddy said:

Oh yes sounds amazing 

😅i did hear though that Jakarta streets are not the best for....Senior citizens 

I generally have no problems with streets, sidewalks, pathways, hills, or crowding. Streets in Jakarta are just like streets in hundreds of other Southeast Asian destinations.

Don't you complain about walking around certain places? What's your problem? Poor you, Old!

Posted
On 2/25/2025 at 2:40 AM, bkkmfj2648 said:

Thanks for this suggestion - as it sounds like what I would be looking for - similar to the gem that I found on Mactan Island in the Megaworld Mactan Newtown township.

Can you comment if the beaches in Makassar are:

  • open and free and walkable like in Jomtien?   Unfortunately, it seems that 98% of the beaches on Mactan island are not free and consequently, not walkable for kilometers like the Jomtien beaches are.
  • Is the sea water clean?  clear?  turquoise? swimmable? 
  • Is the sand rocky, crushed coral, natural, or like Boracay's wonderful white powder ?

This is nice to know.  It is not a requirement but an added niceness to being able to taste and play with variety.

Your experience in Mactan Newton township made me think of that partcular complex in Makassar. I think you enjoy modern-ish neighborhoods and enclaves that can give you the amenities you like. On the whole, I think Makassar as a city is more pleasant than Cebu City.

However, you own't find the beaches to be the same as in Jomtien. Most of them are public, although a  few small areas of sand and beach belong to hotels. It's a city, so the sand won't be pristine and white. Neither is the water (for the most part) clear and blue. It's a port city, so the water is too deep for casual swimming and wading. Typically, you can't walk on sand for kilometers at a stretch. So this will probably be a deal-breaker for you if you need to do your beach walking every day. 

Not too far from Makassar are indeed nice beaches with clear water. There are also islands where you can explore.

Posted
46 minutes ago, Marc in Calif said:

However, you own't find the beaches to be the same as in Jomtien. Most of them are public, although a  few small areas of sand and beach belong to hotels. It's a city, so the sand won't be pristine and white.

Thanks for the additional information.  From a not deep search I see that the Jomtien equivalent type of beach within the Makassar city limits would be:  Losari Beach ?  would you agree?

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48 minutes ago, Marc in Calif said:

Not too far from Makassar are indeed nice beaches with clear water.

From the above map - Google AI is stating that both Pantai Biru and Pantai Tanjung Bayang beaches are beautiful with clean water and white sand.  Google reports that they are only around 7km and 15 minutes away from the Losari beach.

 

 

Posted
20 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

Thanks for the additional information.  From a not deep search I see that the Jomtien equivalent type of beach within the Makassar city limits would be:  Losari Beach ?  would you agree?

From the above map - Google AI is stating that both Pantai Biru and Pantai Tanjung Bayang beaches are beautiful with clean water and white sand.  Google reports that they are only around 7km and 15 minutes away from the Losari beach.

Well, there's no way that Losari (which is the most popular and central Makassar beach) is clean and pristine with clear water. It's more like a municipal pier with lots of food and concessions, but nobody swims there. It's a domestic tourism site that's mostly about restaurants, concessions, and other tourist attractions. There's no sand -- just rocks and pavement. The AI description is pretty misleading!

However, Pantai Biru and Pantai Tanjung Bayang are indeed much closer to the types of beach that you're seeking. There are many others like them, plus the small islands I mentioned.

Posted
3 hours ago, Marc in Calif said:

Pantai Biru and Pantai Tanjung Bayang are indeed much closer to the types of beach that you're seeking

I agree.

However, I could not find any hirise condos that accompany the above mentioned 2 beautiful beaches.

All of the hirise condos were back in Makassar city.

wah...

 

Posted

Repair services are available and inexpensive in the Philippines: every major mall will have a Mr Quickie (not kidding, that is the actual chain name) that does alterations, clothes-, shoe-, bag- or luggage repairs. Small repairs are only P50 or P100 and they are very creative - pretty much anything can be repaired… for more complicated tailoring, there are specialized alteration shops, ie turning long pants into shorts, taking in or shortening pants/shirts…you’ll find them often in the basement or other less prime locations..

there are many different store brands/names - just ask the info desk at the mall or the front desk at your condo building for the nearest one, they’ll know…

Posted
34 minutes ago, EricV said:

Repair services are available and inexpensive in the Philippines: every major mall will have a Mr Quickie

Wow @EricV, you are amazing - you know everything about life in the Philippines.  Have you ever considered curating the Philippines section of our gayguides.com forum?  It is truly lacking in up-to-date information - as most of our forum members tend to contribute only to the Gay Thailand channel.

Sure enough, exactly as you stated, there is a MR. QUICKIEimage.png.f65fa15f67cde2385bf930361f9073bb.png right here in the Cebu Ayala Mall - I would have never seen it - as I know the Ayala mall like the back of my hand after 60 days here.  It is located in the sub-basement Level -1, down where the car parking is.

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https://mrquickie.com/

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1454118197944995&id=121503941206434&set=a.208386375851523

I see from Google that there are many more disbursed throughout the city of Cebu.

Shame on me, as I was a victim of my own "ethnocentrism", where I thought - well they do these kind of repairs at the laundromats that I have frequented in Thailand - thus creating my false expectation, that the same should be true in the Philippines.  I have lived in USA, Italy, Hungary, and now Thailand - and my personal experience has been that you can often get these kinds of clothing repairs done directly in the local laundromats - those where there is an attendant (mom & pop style shop) who is washing the clothes.  For obvious reasons, this service is not available in those sophisticated automatic laundromat. 

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Posted
8 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

Anyway, this gives me a purpose for today, – as when you are a retiree, with a lot of free time on your hands, you often find yourself looking for purpose.

When i read this part, i thought you were going to find a shop that will do the fixing for you, but instead shocked that you actually went to Mr. DIY to actually fix it yourself hehe. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, spoon said:

i thought you were going to find a shop that will do the fixing for you, but instead shocked that you actually went to Mr. DIY to actually fix it yourself

Hahaha - yes, when I was a boy my mother taught me many things, of which one was how to sew.

Had I seen @EricV excellent suggestion prior to me going to the Mr. D.I.Y. store --> I would have instead brought my shorts to be repaired at the Mr. Quickie shop - just to have the experience and to see how "quick", Mr. Quickie would actually be 🤔 .

Posted
5 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

Hahaha - yes, when I was a boy my mother taught me many things, of which one was how to sew.

Had I seen @EricV excellent suggestion prior to me going to the Mr. D.I.Y. store --> I would have instead brought my shorts to be repaired at the Mr. Quickie shop - just to have the experience and to see how "quick", Mr. Quickie would actually be 🤔 .

And what other 'quickie' services he might offer? 

Posted

Day 62 (28 February 2025) – Dark Day

 

Wake up and eat breakfast and I start to do the daily news perusal.

I see and read the AWFUL news that the Thai government has decided to forcibly deport the 40 Uyghurs that were held in detention for 11 years back to China – while we were all sleeping in the middle of the night.

This unsettling news cast a dark shadow over my entire day and made me question – why should I continue to live in Thailand as a retiree.  I understand that no country is perfect, especially my birth country – but after working most of my life for the United Nations, this news is very disheartening, knowing that Thailand was recently elected to serve a term from 2025 to 2027, as a new member of the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC), effective 1 January 2025.  I remember how proud the Thai government was when they achieved this honorable accomplishment.

Therefore, it makes it even more difficult for me to understand why this current Thai government would violate international human rights law, especially the principle of non-refoulement, for which there is a complete prohibition in cases where there is a real risk of torture, ill-treatment, or other irreparable harm upon the return of non-Thai nationals to their home country – in this case, China.

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So, I spend most of the day trying to digest this news and to prepare a list of articles that were written in the Thai language so that I can try to make my Thai boyfriend be aware as to what his  government has just done.  As usual, he pushes back, as I have learned over the years that the Thai people don’t like this kind of global criticism – and so he deflects with his normal deflection mechanisms:

·       I don’t follow what my government does,

·       I don’t understand politics,

·       Etcetra.

So, throughout the day I bombard him with tons of articles and opinion pieces and eventually he realizes that what his government has done is a bad thing.  I am relieved, because then from that moment forward I can have a meaningful conversation with him.  I try to make him understand that Thailand will now likely be subjected to the negative consequences of this unfortunate decision, which may hurt the Thai people - and this is my concern for him.  Already, Japan and the USA have issued travel advisories to stay alert for potential retaliatory threats.

Then I tell him that this kind of behavior (by his government) makes it hard for me to want to be proud to be retired in Thailand and makes me want to look elsewhere.  Obviously, he is quiet and does not like this.  But I want him to be aware – in case one day I do decide to jump ship.  The problem would be where to go?  It’s not like the neighboring countries are saints when it comes to protecting human rights.

There is already dissension within the current Thai government about this awful decision – I share this Bangkok Post article which tries to explain all sides of the argument.  As the Bangkok Post lives within the Kingdom of Thailand – it is limited on what it can expose.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2970273/thai-government-under-fire-for-claiming-uyghurs-left-voluntarily

Unfortunately, it has since leaked out that certain parts of the government were intentionally kept in the dark about inconvenient truths – in order to reduce the potential internal political pushback.  If you are curious about these leaks – look in the Khaosod English publication on the internet to learn more.  I do not post them here to avoid potential problems for any of us.

I think that the easiest countries for me to live in would be countries that are not afraid to stand up to China – as that would allow you to live in a place where you would not feel to be bullied by your northern big brother.

 

Who are these countries here in South East Asia ?

 

Not much else to report for today – just my usual boring updates about where I ate and where I walked. I will spare you all of this pestilence.

 

No massages or extra-curricular activities today.

 

Day 62 (28 February 2025) concluded – night of darkness

 

Posted
1 hour ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

I thnik that the easiest countries for me to live in would be countries that are not afraid to stand up to China – as that would allow you to live in a place where you would not feel to be bullied by your northern big brother.

 

Who are these countries here in South East Asia ?

I wonder if any of us would have made that comment, say, 20 years ago? And I expect probably not. Then we regarded China as the next big hope for the world's economy, the more so as Japan was only finally coming out of a decade of  deep economic recession. China was expanding at such a fast rate and everyone seemed to want to be associated with it. We knew about the one-child policy and the deaths of so many girl children. We didn't like it but we probably accepted the policy was essential to get the population growth rate of an underdeveloped country down. Just as Thailand had in the years after 1960 when the fertility rate was almost 6 children per family. It is now just under 2, but draconian measures were not needed. Khun Meechai and his popularisation of condoms helped achieve that.

What is so different now is that whereas China's leaders were then regarded as relatively benign and were following Deng Xiao-ping's policies of openess and economic development, Xi Jin-ping comes along and the ghosts of Mao, the dreadful Premier Li Peng and the old guard come back to haunt the country and the world. The extraordinary thing about Xi is that he comes from quite a liberal family. His father was a pal of Mao on the Great March and was made a Vice Premier in the new government. He advocated tolerance towards Tibet and even hosted the Dalai Lama in his home. His son's hard line probably developed after his father was denounced when the younger Xi was 9. Yet his father was rehabilitated after the Cultural Revolution and became the top Party official in the soon to be economic powerhouse of Guangdong Province.

China's top leadership was for decades after Mao a major struggle between the old guard and the reformers. I have no doubt that Xi, like others, lobbied hard for the top job. His campaign against corruption at high levels of the party was popular with the public, but that can not have been the only reason he got it. Did the reformer Presidents and Premiers who preceded him think he would continue their policies? Who was promoting him? We'll probably never know. But in the world at large, I think few expected he would become such a hard-line President much more in line with Mao than Deng?.

As the country's military has expanded under Xi, I do not know which Asian country could stand up to him. Perhaps Japan, but only because it is inextricably linked to the power of the USA. The other Asian countries are either too small or too weak. What will be interesting in the future will be Xi's position if anything happens to Putin. And when, as inevitably he will either through death or assassination, he passes from the scene, who will take over and will the reformers once again find a way to the top job? But all that is going to come too late for many consideing where they might retire. South America and even Portugal sudddenly seem a lot more attractive!

Posted
2 hours ago, PeterRS said:

As the country's military has expanded under Xi, I do not know which Asian country could stand up to him.

Perhaps the Philippines? 

I am now physically here for more than 60 days and the Chinese are not seen positively by the Filipino population - mainly for 2 primary reasons:

1.  The ongoing dispute with China over the sovereignty of the Spratly Island region in the South China Sea.

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https://eastasiaforum.org/2025/02/19/choppy-waters-continue-in-the-south-china-sea/

Often on the local news here the Philippine TV replays the many incidents where the Chinese are using their Coast Guard and/or military vessels to harass local Philippine fisherman and/or Philippine military ships with the abusive use of water cannons.

In June 2024, there was a physical incident when Filipino soldiers had to fight with the Chinese coast guard using their bare hands.  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgee719kqpdo

All of this Chinese bullying has pushed the Philippine government to create military defense alliances with Japan - with the USA providing anti-bullying support.

2. The ongoing and recent crackdown by the Philippine government on POGOs (Philippine Offshore Gaming Operator) facilities operating illegally within the territory of the Philippines.  The primary foreign citizens being arrested are Chinese nationals.  Consequently, the Filipinos roll their eyes when you bring up the POGO issue - and they often will reply that the Chinese need to go home.

https://agbrief.com/news/philippines/25/02/2025/philippine-national-police-intensifies-crackdown-on-illegal-pogos/

I don't see the Filipinos as being xenophobic - as they hold the Koreans and Japanese in high esteem and high regard.  Koreans are often looked up to in fashion for their look and white skin - you see it in the beauty shops and advertising displays.

Consequently, I see the above 2 examples of the Philippines standing up against the bullying done by the Chinese government.

 

The other SEA country where I saw fringes of standing up against the bullying done by China is Vietnam.

Similar to their maritime bullying tactics with the Philippines, they are using the same threatening tactics with the Paracel and Spratly Islands.  Very recently, 20 February 2025, the Vietnamese government offered to give logistical support to Philippine vessels - as a direct result of the 18 February Chinese helicopter incident that buzzed a Philippine plane near the Scarborough Shoal.  The Vietnamese government is having to deal with Vietnamese citizen anger over the incident when Chinese sea vessel personnel attacked ten Vietnamese fishermen in September 2024 that left 4 of the 10 fishermen with broken limbs.  So, the Vietnamese government finds itself being forced from within to stand up to the Chinese bully.  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/aug/06/protests-vietnam-china-bullying-grows

In closing, when I was in Da Nang last April, a local Vietnamese asked me what I liked the most about Da Nang and I replied that I found the view from my 24th floor balcony of the Da Nang beach and of the South China Sea to be so breathtaking.  Well - this Vietnamese guy BARKED at me and said to me:

This is NOT the South China Sea.  Please call it by its right and correct name = East Vietnam Sea!!!

or as,  "Biển Đông", = East Sea.

So, I learned a valuable lesson about geopolitics during my stay in Vietnam.  As I naively thought that since Vietnam is a Communist country that it must be very aligned with China - as it is also a communist country.

 

 

 

Posted
9 minutes ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

Perhaps the Philippines? 

Sadly I cannot see either the Philippines or Vietnam being a position where they either stand up to China - or want to, if push really comes to shove. The Spratly Islands dispute has several countries up in arms, including Taiwan, Malaysia and Brunei in addition to the Philippines and Vietnam. No doubt the claimants are far from happy about it, but China has already taken many measures to ensure that the others are going to have problems if they really do want to take them. Alongside China's military might and air power, the other nations are mere minnows.

In 2016 a dispute between China and the Philippines brought up at the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague ruled in favour of the Philippines. Yet China has since then constructed ports, airstrips and military installations on the Islands. All the Philippines and other Asian nations have been able to do is talk - and strengthen alliances with the USA.

The US wants to maintain several principles, including Nonuse of Force in Settling Disputes and Freedom of the Seas. So far it has done little to stop China's expansion on the Islands.

With increasing US sanctions against Chinese manufacturers resulting in China moving many production facilities into Vietnam, I simply cannot see Vietnam upsetting that economic applecart by taking an even greater position against China re the Spratlys.

 

Posted
51 minutes ago, PeterRS said:

Sadly I cannot see either the Philippines or Vietnam being a position where they either stand up to China - or want to

My last question to you in light of Thai government allowing China to bully them into forcibly deporting the 40+ Uyghurs back to China is:

Would you agree that in light of what I have written above that both the Philippines and Vietnam have done MORE to thwart Chinese bullying than the Thai government has?

Moving to Portugal or South America is not in the cards for me.  But, if I were to choose to leave Thailand, than I would prefer to choose a SEA country that is more willing to TRY to thwart China's bullying rather than acquiesce. 

Posted
On 3/1/2025 at 12:20 PM, bkkmfj2648 said:

 

So, I learned a valuable lesson about geopolitics during my stay in Vietnam.  As I naively thought that since Vietnam is a Communist country that it must be very aligned with China - as it is also a communist country.

 

 

 

Vietnam was never aligned with China, despite of or because of they being within the sino cultural sphere. They were always afraid of being absorbed. They fought off the Chinese after they kicked the Americans out. They say the Americans or the French will never return, but they can’t be sure of China.

During the Cold War they were aligned with the USSR, and it was an USSR-Vietnam alliance that toppled the bloodthirsty Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia. 

With the USA retreating from the rules based, human rights based order they were the architects of 80 years ago, the withering of multilateral institutions, and Europe being confined to the role as a museum, standing up to China for small countries will be very costly. This will be true world wide. 

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