Trip report Jan/Feb 2025 - Cebu & beyond - Research if an elderly gay retiree can live comfortably in Cebu

[Marc in Calif]

10 minutes ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

12 minutes ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

As this specific Cebu Olango post was very long and very special - that 1 mistake slipped through. 

Please do not shorten your future reports. They are special gems no matter how long!

[bkkmfj2648]

Day 52 (18 February 2025)

 

Eat breakfast with Mr. B. and then he leaves to go back to Cebu city, as he needs to work today.

Mr. B. shares with me the details of his journey as an alternative way to get back to Cebu city using the existing transportation system.  He takes the 10:30 am Ceres Bus bound for IT Park from the Mactan Newtown transportation station for 26 pesos (~ $0.45 USD)  – as he will exit at the Pacific Mall in Mandaue city at 11:15am, where he will transfer to a jeepney (standing room only) bound for SM Cebu City, which only costs 15 pesos (~ $0.26 USD).  He exits at the stop before the Mabolo church where he transfers for a jeepney (bahtbus), which costs 13 pesos (~ $0.22 USD), back to his hotel boarding house at 12 noon.  Total cost was 26 + 15 + 13 = 54 pesos (~ $0.93 USD) with a the total elapsed time of approximately 90 minutes.

I spend a lot of time today writing a long letter to my Thai boyfriend (as I had frozen conversations with him on 15 February) which basically outlined that if he does not modify his financial discipline that I will leave him out of my need for self-preservation.  As I want this message to be razor sharp clear – I first use Google translate and then I reverse translate what Google wrote via the OpenAI app.  I see that it still needs some modifications in English in order for my message to be more clear and less ambiguous.  I then put this revised message into Google translate and then reverse translate using instead the Grok AI tool and I see that it is almost perfect.  Again, I tweak my letter some more by trying to use more latin based words and more British words, and in the end I get to a result that I feel comfortable enough to send to him in the LINE app both in the Thai language and in English.

In addition to the above laborious work, I attached 2 idiomatic proverbs to my message that took me a very long time to find their Thai equivalents.  I share them here in case it would aid any of you when trying to communicate with your Thai loved ones.

I go to lunch at the Mactan Newtown Alfresco open air food court.

Return to my room to work on some of these trip report updates as I am again once behind.

Thai boyfriend wakes up and we have more than 1 intense conversation and things are somewhat better – but as my mother always told me when she was alive, “Watch what people do and NOT what they say – because actions take much more energy than empty words.”  He hates when I remind him of what my mother says – as I would imagine that to change away from the carefree habits of being an ex-money boy are not easy.

Afterwards, I decide that I need some stress relief and I fire up the Heesay app and I see that Jeff is online.  I cautiously write to him in his original Heesay profile (as I am not sure if it is still hijacked) and I understand that it is really him as we exchange phone numbers and we move the conversation over to WhatsApp.

We agree to meet at 7pm and I go outside of my OPR condo complex and eventually Jeff arrives, and he looks as sexy as before.  We check in with the security guards and they take his ID and issue him a visitor’s badge. 

We go up to my room and he explains to me about the incident that happened on Saturday 15 February where an imposter appeared at my OPR condo complex instead of Jeff.  Apparently, he told me that this was his “friend” who grabbed his phone away from him and decided to present himself to me that night.  Hmm, sounds kind of like a lovers quarrel ??  Anyway I had told that other guy to go away as I was pissed off by this unrequested substitution. 

So, we get naked and Jeff gives me an even better massage than the first time and the after’s were truly even more erotic and sensual than the previous encounter.  Each of us gets the other one off in a nice slow way with an intense output at the end. 🤪😜🍆💦

We both take showers and I walk Jeff downstairs to the security team so that he can retrieve his ID and return his guest badge.  As I had not yet eaten my dinner, I walk with Jeff down the Newtown Blvd. and we part ways when I arrive at my usual eating place, the An’dale Eats food cart.

Nice happy ending to a rather stressful day.

 

Day 52 (18 February 2025) concluded.

 

[bkkmfj2648]

 

Day 53 (19 February 2025) = Cockfighting

 

I am woken up early by what sounds like a protest outside on the street outside of the township walls.  I open the curtains and I step out onto the balcony and I see a large crowd gathering in front of the below structures (see below photo) and there is a lot of excitement, yelling and screaming.  I need my phone to zoom in very closely and it looks like it is the MC (Master of Ceremonies) who is riling up the crowd into a frenzy at 8:30am in the morning.

I send the above photo to both Mr. B. and my Thai boyfriend and Mr. B. confirms that this is the occasional barangay (village) cockfighting, which is allowed on certain days of the month.

Is this the Philippines answer to the Roman Empires, “Panem et Circenses” ??  To keep social order ?

https://winedharma.com/en/blog-en/panem-et-circenses-the-role-of-the-colosseum-in-ancient-romes-social-order/

What is amazing is that this cockfighting went on all day late into the night.  How many cocks had to die to satisfy the crowd ?

Later after my Thai boyfriend wakes up he tells me that these local village cockfights also occur in Thailand.  I have never seen them in Thailand and I surely don't want to see one up and close here in the Philippines - just the shrieks of agony (that I can hear) coming from the roosters sends chills down my spine.

I work on the BIG trip report update for our trip to Olango.

I go to lunch at my usual Mactan Newtown Alfresco open air food court.  Today the weather is crappy – windy, chilly, and rain on and off throughout the day.

So, I hunker back to my room to finally finish the Olango update and post it to this forum.  I also respond to some queries that this trip report has generated.

There is a lull in the rain and I run over to the An’Dale Eats food truck and I eat outside but it is quite too chilly with the wind.  So, I eat quickly and return to my room.

Chat with my Thai boyfriend and he is excited to go to Rayong with his friends to see the below mentioned Mor Lam concert.

He sends me pictures and video streams via LINE and I eventually fall asleep knowing that my maximum capacity to enjoy a Mor Lam concert with them is about 2 hours long before they need to organize a car to send gramps (me) home for his warm milk and cookies and then off to bed.

 

No massages or extra-curricular activities or cockfighting in my condo room today.

 

Day 53 (19 February 2025) concluded.

 

 

[bkkmfj2648]

Day 54 (20 February 2025) Cockfighting Day 2

 

Eat breakfast and observe the continued ruckus of the nearby day 2 of cockfighting.

What is surreal about this morning’s cockfighting is that it is supplemented with a musical parade – so to hear this cacophony of sounds; people yelling, roosters screaming, and marching band music playing is just so bizarre.

Why a marching parade?  Shall be revealed in tomorrow’s trip report update – stay tuned.

I venture outside for my favorite last lunch in the township = soupless ramen + dumplings (gyoza):

Today I see that they are roasting 2 large pigs to make lechon meals.

Weather is kind of crappy so I stay in my room and get my trip reports up to date.  A kind reader from this forum alerts me that I inadvertently outed Mr. B. in my trip report and I urgently write to our beloved TotallyOz who saves my ass and removes his true name.  I apologize to Mr. B., as he also discovers that I included his true name in our trip to Olango island report.  One of the dangers that we only have 20 minutes to fix/adjust anything that we post in this forum.

Later in the evening, I decide to eat outside of the township, as this is my last night in Mactan Newtown.  I walk over at the LG garden walk mall    

where I venture up to the second floor to try one of their many restaurants.

 I reward myself with a wonderful plate of fresh oysters and a “surf & turf” meal at the World Traveller’s Mactan Restobar    

https://www.facebook.com/worldtravellersceburestobar/

The owner is a very interesting and a well-informed Australian, who is married to a beautiful Filipina.  He has lived in the Philippines, mostly in the Cebu area, for 18 years, so he could answer my million questions when he was not attending to other customers.  He confirmed my understanding about why there are so many Korean (and to a lesser extent, Japanese) investors, expats, retirees and tourists in the area – as he told me that they always loved this Mactan island area due to its warm climate and proximity via air – even well before the MegaWorld Mactan Newtown township became livable (as the first construction phase was being completed) in 2012.

I loved his restobar tagline = “Come for a drink, stay for a meal” as it is truly one of the attractions of frequenting his place – as you are immediately made to feel as a part of his extended family.

While waiting to pay the bill, the Lady Gaga 2018 movie, “A Star is Born” theme song is displayed up on the big TV of the restaurant, and I have an unexpected emotional reaction and I need to hide my eyes – as that song is connected in my memories to my prior Thai boyfriend, as that was his favorite movie and when he shared it with me, it was the 1 and only 1 time that I ever saw him cry.

After dinner, while walking back to my condo, I ran across a very sexy group of 5 to 6 hot Korean guys.  I tried to take their photo for this trip report, but I fumbled and I was not successful, as the guys were watching me.  I constantly look in the hookup apps hoping that some of these Koreans would be available – but I never see any.  Perhaps they use a different app than Grindr and Heesay (formerly Blued) ?

 

No massages or extra-curricular activities or cockfighting in my condo room today.

 

Day 54 (20 February 2025) concluded.

 

 

 

[macaroni21]

On 2/20/2025 at 5:58 PM, bkkmfj2648 said:

or cockfighting in my condo room today.

Love the turn of phrase.

[macaroni21]

5 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

I inadvertently outed Mr. B. in my trip report and I urgently write to our beloved TotallyOz who saves my ass and removes his true name.

I noticed it too, but I didn't want to draw more attention to it by pointing it out. Slip ups happen, and most of the time, people either don't notice, or if they have, they forget about  it.

5 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

why there are so many Korean (and to a lesser extent, Japanese) investors, expats, retirees and tourists in the area

But what do they do? Are they on the beaches? Are they in the bars, in the shopping centres? Do you see them going around outside of the New Town?

Some years ago, I remember coming across a review of boy bars in Cebu which carried a preemptive advisory that said these bars are mostly patronised by Korean women and not to think they are aimed at gay males.

[bkkmfj2648]

2 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

But what do they do? They are either entrepreneurs, retirees, or families here to put their kids through the many English language schools or English education schools. 

Are they on the beaches?  Yes, but as with most Asians - they hate to get dark skin - so they are usually well protected underneath a gazebo, umbrella, or some type of canopy.

Are they in the bars, in the shopping centres? Yes, they are everywhere

Do you see them going around outside of the New Town? Yes, especially on Mactan island.  However, over in Cebu city their presence is diluted in the population numbers and are consequently less noticeable.

They are EVERYWHERE.  It is quite impressive - as I never saw this many Koreans together outside of Korea.

In the Mactan Newtown area they are the predominant foreigners.  Then after them are some Japanese, Arabs, and us from the west (North America, EU, and Australia).  But us from the west, we are the minority.  I was told that the Japanese frequent this area because they occupied large parts of the Philippines during World War II.

The Koreans have created many businesses both inside the Mactan Newtown township and also in the immediate outside area.  These businesses are some of the English language and educational schools, many restaurants, karaoke places, Wash-n-Dry franchises, real estate - condos for sale and rent, and probably many other types of businesses that I am not aware of in my short time here.

[bkkmfj2648]

Day 55 (21 February 2025) – Goodbye Mactan Newtown

 

I had a restless sleep, so I wake up in a groggy state of mind – this usually happens when I need to relocate.  I also wakeup to the noise of day 3 of the cockfighting – incredible.

Eat breakfast and I begin the laborious labor of packing.  Now I have 2 luggages – where the 2^nd newer smaller luggage is dedicated to hauling around my massage towels, block the sunlight sheets, and anything that is remaining in the refrigerator of the AirBnB that I am vacating and can be ported to the successor AirBnB.  On the day prior to my return to Thailand, I will gift this 2^nd luggage and its contents to Mr. B. as he has been an incredible new friend in my 62 day stay here in Cebu.

I have a long chat via the AirBnB app with the owner of this condo – as I have fallen in love with her condo and I wanted to tell her why it is so wonderful and to give her a suggestion to add a set of chairs and table on the balcony – as the balcony is now naked – in the sense that it is empty.  She tells me that she intentionally did not buy any balcony furniture as she has a 5 year old child and she would dread the idea that this child could climb up onto this balcony furniture and perhaps fall from this 18^th floor balcony.  I tell her that I agree, but she should give consideration to buy a collapsable table and chair set for the balcony and to not assemble it when the child is there, but to assemble it when the condo is rented out to clients from AirBnB – she agrees.  We also discuss why there are so many Koreans and she tells me that 25 years prior, that the number one foreigners in Mactan were the Japanese.  But, in the last 10 to 15 years or so, the Koreans have overtaken the Japanese.  She is a wonderful woman and it is one of those rare times when you bond with your AirBnB host. 

I also tell her that I am writing a paper about elderly retirees possibly retiring in the Cebu area and I ask her what would be the estimated monthly rental price for her condo on a long term lease.   Her condo is ~ 44.6 sqm and the monthly rental price would be between 45,000 to 50,000 pesos per month ( ~ $777.53 USD to $863.92 USD ).  Converting the lower price range to price per sqm =  ~$17.43 USD ($777.53 USD / 44.6sqm).  My Jomtien condo is 98sqm and costs 28,000 Thai baht ( ~ $834.33 USD) with an average price per sqm of ~$8.51 USD ($834.33 / 98sqm) à which when measured on a sqm basis, this wonderful Philippine Mactan Newtown One Pacific Residence (OPR) elegant condo complex is 204% more expensive than my Jomtien, Thailand condo.

There are some notable reasons as to why this Mactan Newtown OPR condo would demand a higher price premium:

• OPR was constructed in 2016 – while the View Talay (VT) that I live in was constructed in 2007,
• OPR has an abundance of amenities and facilities that VT does not have, such as:
•      Tennis court,
•      Gym,
•      Men/Women Onsens,
•      Many meeting rooms,
•      Climbing wall,
•      Children’s playground,
•      Outdoor sitting lounging area,
•      Outdoor complex perimeter running track,
•      Men/Women changing rooms,
•      Access to private beach owned by the township,
•      FULL 180 degree sea view.

The only amenity that they both have in common is the pool.

My VT condo – only has a partial 90 degree sea view – whereas this OPR condo has a FULL 180 degree seaview.

 

Should this OPR condo command a 204% price premium ?

 

I receive good news from my to-be new AirBnB host over in Cebu City that it is already available – he tells me this at 11am – which is the check out time for the OPR condo.  So, this is fantastic news because I can immediately fetch a taxi and already travel to the new condo without having to be “homeless” for a couple of hours – as the normal check in time for the Cityscape condo is 3pm.

I go to the OPR security team and check out and say goodbye to all of them and I ask them to fetch me a taxi (instead of using Grab) – as I know that they get a finders fee.  A local Mactan taxi comes and I say a sad goodbye to the security team and to Mactan Newtown – my Jomtien in the Philippines.   https://yourhome.ph/property/the-mactan-newtown/

Goodbye Mactan Newtown (Jomtien of Cebu)

Good luck with the completion of your master plan

My taxi guy was fantastic – he was a great storyteller and he also tells me all about the evolution from first the Japanese in Mactan and then now the Koreans.  I ask him why he prefers remote Mactan over the hustle and bustle of Cebu City?  He basically says the same reasons as to why I would not like to live in Pattaya City or Bangkok – the noise, traffic, grim, pollution, too far away from the sea, etcetra.  Mactan is definitely nicer than Cebu City, but the traffic in Mactan can also be bad and is definitely worse than the traffic in Jomtien.  Since Mactan island hosts the international airport for busy Cebu City, it adds to the traffic congestion.  I tell the taxi driver about the 3 crazy days of cockfighting and he laughs and says to me,

“oh sir, it is good that you leave Mactan island today – because this weekend it will be crazy here because of the Fiesta Señor de Santo Niño De Cebu Mactan Parish.” 

I reply, “but I thought that the festival of Santo Niño was SINULOG, which we already celebrated on 19 January 2025”?  

He replies, “sir, that SINULOG was for Cebu – now it is Mactan’s turn.”

I lean back in my taxi seat realizing that WOW – he is correct – because at the mouth of the Mactan Newtown township MAIN entrance is the Sto. Niño De Cebu Mactan Parish = Ground ZERO of the to-be festivities.  After 3 days of cockfighting what surprise could be forthcoming.....

He tells me this is why you have heard 3 continuous days of cockfighting mixed in with marching band parades – this is the lead up to the BIG celebration.  He said, this is nothing – you should see what will happen this weekend!!

https://www.facebook.com/StoNinoMactanParishOfficial/

In that moment, I was happy to know that I would be escaping this Mactan SINULOG chaos and to be transferring back to calm and civilized Cebu City in the CBP – Central Business Park – Ayala Mall.

Welcome Back to CBP!!

We arrive back at the CityScape Grand Tower after only about 70 minutes and the security team is elated to see me again and quite surprised.  Everyone is happy and so am I with their grand welcome.  I perform the security ID document control and check in procedure, and all is good and they help me with my luggage up to my tiny 22sqm room with a sea facing tiny balcony.  I compromised to return here, as this was the ONLY condo building that is listed in AirBnB or Booking.com, that:

o   Is near the CBP Ayala mall,

o   Has a balcony with sea view.

There are 2 other buildings in the area with large condo units with very big balconies in:

• The Alcoves – premier condos that sit directly above the Ayala Mall  - check it out here at:   https://www.alcoves.com.ph/
• Park Point Residences – premier condos located directly above the Ayala Mall with direct internal access to the mall.  Check it out here at:  https://www.ayala-land-premier.com/park-point-residences-cebu.html

--> Unfortunately, the above 2 condo buildings NEVER appear in any of the short term condo rental sites.  I have noticed that some of the high end condo buildings prohibit short term rentals – to keep up appearances of “high society”, or “Sosyal” in tagalog, or “HiSo” in Thai speak.

--> So, in this sense, I failed to compare high end living in Cebu City with what we have back in Jomtien / Pattaya.  However, I was able to accomplish this goal over in Mactan Newtown at the One Pacific Residence (OPR).

I unpack and sort out my belongings.  Then I set up my laptop workstation.  You may remember that when I stayed here the first time – end of December – through the first two weeks of January – the space was so small that there was no way to create a laptop workstation.  I made damn sure that with my second stay at Cityscape that in addition to a seaview balcony that there would be a way to create a workstation for my laptop.

 

My improvised workstation

Not perfect – as I need to look upwards towards the TV that is affixed to the wall – but it is very workable and I am happy.  When you only have a 22sqm condo to work with, you have to be very creative.

I take a shower and head over to the Ayala Mall for a great Italian lunch at Italianni’s

https://www.italiannis.com.ph/

Then I search for another hair color treatment shop – as I am again not happy with how my hair is fading, aging, and looking ragged again – especially after our sun fun adventure on Olango island – as the sun just loves to transform hair that is dyed.  We spend a lot of time going back and forth about the appropriate shade of brown for my hair.  I show them the color code card that my Thai hairdresser gave me but it seems that they use a different color scheme here in the Philippines.  She completes the hair treatment and I am super happy as they finally get the same color that I usually get back in Thailand.

I get some take away food to eat in my room later – as I am truly tired and call it an early night.

 

No massages or extra-curricular activities today.

 

Day 55 (21 February 2025) concluded – Hello again CBP in  Cebu City

 

[macaroni21]

1 hour ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

because at the mouth of the Mactan Newtown township MAIN entrance is the Sto. Niño De Cebu Mactan Parish = Ground ZERO of the to-be festivities.  After 3 days of cockfighting what surprise could be forthcoming.....

I suppose this experience has been super useful in that you may want to avoid these dates should you decide to relocate to Cabu for several months in future?

1 hour ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

up to my tiny 22sqm room with a sea facing tiny balcony.

Do you see yourself being able to live in 22 sq m apartment for 2 - 3 months?  Might you get annoyed by the limitations?

1 hour ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

this wonderful Philippine Mactan Newtown One Pacific Residence (OPR) elegant condo complex is 204% more expensive than my Jomtien, Thailand condo.

It's 104 percent more expensive, not 204% (sorry, nitpicker here).

From the listing of facilities, it does sound justifiable, but features are not the only things that determine prices; there is also supply and demand. If Koreans and Japanese are flocking to Jomtien, you'd get a different comparison.

[jason1975]

Facilities are indeed impressive! When will you be back in Pattaya?

[floridarob]

Are you considering anywhere in Indonesia, I forget.

It's my current favorite country on that side of the world, still so affordable. It doesn't have the commercial sex scene, but there is plenty on apps .

[bkkmfj2648]

3 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

I suppose this experience has been super useful in that you may want to avoid these dates should you decide to relocate to Cabu for several months in future?

Currently, I would only be back in Cebu IF the Thai government goes through with their threat to implement a Global Tax Scheme.  For the next 2 sets of biennials - where I need to leave Thailand in the alternating tax year - I want to try some other countries in South East Asia - like Indonesia, Malaysia, and Japan - so for now, this issue would be a non event.

3 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

Do you see yourself being able to live in 22 sq m apartment for 2 - 3 months?  Might you get annoyed by the limitations?

Absolutely not.  I don't know how they managed to live in a space so tiny during the draconian Covid lockdown period.  When Covid hit I was living in Budapest where I had a large 72sqm loft with a huge balcony - which made it easier to get through the Covid lockdown period.  But also, our Hungarian Prime Minister was one of the first countries in the EU to open up after only 6 months to normal pre-Covid status - unlike Thailand (I believe that they had to suffer for 2.5 years) and the Philippines (I believe that they had to suffer for almost 3 years).

So, yes I would get annoyed with this 22 sq m space limitation.

If I was to live here full time as a retiree - I would choose one of the larger condos with a balcony where the minimum space would be 45sqm or larger.

3 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

It's 104 percent more expensive, not 204% (sorry, nitpicker here).

oh no!!  How embarrassing considering my last job before retiring was as a Finance Officer.  Don't tell my ex boss.  I can now see clearly the errors of my ways - as an average sqm price of $17.43 USD is ONLY slightly more than DOUBLE  an average sqm price of ~$8.51 USD.   When I typed the above I saw that it was double and associated double in my mind with 200%, whereas mathematically it is only 104% more.  

In my previous career as a Finance Officer I was only in charge with the moving of money from place A to place E - including any of the potential financial intermediaries (with greedy hands) found/intercepted inbetween points A and E.  So, when your job is to hound your banking partners, manage banking databases, and to work with the international payment systems (SWIFT, SEPA, FedWire, mobile wallets, domestic ACH systems throughout the world, etcetera) you never had to perform mathematics and/or accounting - as this type of Finance Officer job did not involve accounting or budget analysis = hallelujah!!!  As I hate those aspects of Finance - as evident in my above 204% blunder.  But, if you ever need to move money from country A to country B - I am the guy to speak to.

 

[bkkmfj2648]

1 hour ago, jason1975 said:

Facilities are indeed impressive! When will you be back in Pattaya?

My return flight to Thailand is quickly approaching = 3 March

One week from tomorrow I should be on the airplane back to Thailand.

[bkkmfj2648]

1 hour ago, floridarob said:

Are you considering anywhere in Indonesia, I forget.

Yes, but in the next tax biennial - which would be year 2027 - when I would need to again leave Thailand for > 180 days.

2 years prior - I met a super hot guy in Pattaya who was from Surabaya in Indonesia - and he has been telling me to come to Indonesia - so Indonesia is definitely on the list.

But for this tax biennial - it will only be the Philippines (62 days) and then after Songkran finishes, then off to Da Nang, Vietnam for 130 days.

1 hour ago, floridarob said:

It's my current favorite country on that side of the world, still so affordable. It doesn't have the commercial sex scene, but there is plenty on apps

Sounds exciting, considering Indonesia has a population in excess of 280 million inhabitants, where I believe that the majority are circumcised ?

[bkkmfj2648]

4 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

If Koreans and Japanese are flocking to Jomtien, you'd get a different comparison.

I totally agree with this economic impact. 

This is very true and playing out now over in Phuket - as Phuket has become super expensive with the arrival of a huge amount of Russians of lately.

I asked the Grok AI to explain it better than I could.

So, the same economic situation is playing out here in Mactan island; first by the Japanese and now by the Koreans.

[jason1975]

11 minutes ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

My return flight to Thailand is quickly approaching = 3 March

One week from tomorrow I should be on the airplane back to Thailand.

That's great! I am in Bangkok in mid March for 5 days. Thinking of going down to Pattaya for 2 days. Depends on what my guy says.

[jason1975]

7 minutes ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

Yes, but in the next tax biennial - which would be year 2027 - when I would need to again leave Thailand for > 180 days.

2 years prior - I met a super hot guy in Pattaya who was from Surabaya in Indonesia - and he has been telling me to come to Indonesia - so Indonesia is definitely on the list.

But for this tax biennial - it will only be the Philippines (62 days) and then after Songkran finishes, then off to Da Nang, Vietnam for 130 days.

Sounds exciting, considering Indonesia has a population in excess of 280 million inhabitants, where I believe that the majority are circumcised ?

Danang will be nice to stay at.

You prefer guys who are cut? Lol!

[bkkmfj2648]

4 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

Thinking of going down to Pattaya for 2 days. Depends on what my guy says.

Great - let us meet up (if you would like) if you come over to Pattaya.  Your guy can meet my guy and they can then talk about us = hahahaha....

[bkkmfj2648]

7 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

You prefer guys who are cut? Lol!

not always.

Being from the USA - our cock diet mostly consists of circumcised cut cocks - and so that is what we get used to.

But I left the USA in May 1999 for Europe, where my cock diet changed to uncut cocks.  And now here in Thailand the cock diet is mostly uncut cocks.

As I like variety - Variety is the spice of life - I sometimes miss the enjoyment of a cut cock - especially when it comes to edging - as I have noticed that guys with cut cocks seem to enjoy edging more than guys whose cocks are not cut.

Being cut myself - I cannot understand why?

Can any of you forum members who are not cut explain why getting your cock edged is perhaps not liked ?

[jason1975]

Maybe because guys who are uncut are not used to having their foreskin pulled back so frequently which is what happens during edging.

[bkkmfj2648]

Day 56 (22 February 2025)

 

After I wake up in the morning, around 8:30am I receive a “Goodmorning honey” message in LINE from my Thai boyfriend with a photo of him in his volleyball sport attire at Jomtien soi 12, as he has just finished playing several matches of volleyball.  He is getting ready to go home to sleep – as Dracula and the vampires cannot tolerate the sunlight (it is 7:30am back in Jomtien).  So, I am waking up and he is going to sleep – they say in love that “opposites attract….”  

I eat breakfast and as I am horny I reach out to Jeff, as he is lodging nearby in the Lahug neighborhood, which is right next to CBP where I am.  We agree that he will come to my room at 1pm.  He is all nervous about the security screening – as he has never been to this Cityscape building before and I tell him to relax as the security team likes me here and remembers my sordid details when I stayed here for almost 2 weeks back in January.

At 1:32pm, my room doorbell rings and I see that it is Jeff.  I take him out onto the mini balcony and I point out that I can see far away Mactan Newtown from my balcony where Jeff and I originally met:

View from my Cityscape balcony of Mactan island

I close the balcony curtains and we immediately get naked and Jeff starts his wonderful soothing massage.  Each time that I meet him he keeps getting better and better.  He is more confident with me and less shy so this time he teases me with some edging pleasure by bringing me to the edge and he can sense that in 2 or 3 more sensual jerks it can be Game Over – but he does not allow me which makes me more crazy.  Then when I can’t stand it anymore, I jump up and I edge and blow him slowly until his intense orgasm.  Then he finishes me off slowly and sensually licks my nipples while edging me to climax.  This guy is definitely a keeper.  I pay him and off he goes and I am so happy for that great session.

I wash up and I decide to walk on the very busy Archibishop Reyes Avenue road to IT Park.  It takes 28 minutes and like last time, there are a couple of areas where there is no sidewalk or side road to walk on so you enter into the oncoming traffic hoping that the cars will go around you.  These 3 difficult areas last for about 30 seconds each, so I try to time them to be when there is a lull in the traffic.  Cebu city really needs some better planning for consistent sidewalks if it wants to be a tourist city of the 21^st century.

I head to one of my favorite places to eat, WOLFLINK

 

https://www.facebook.com/wolflinkph/

as I truly LOVE their Wolf’s Stew because it is mixed with smoked meat, sausage, egg, cheese, and spicy Korean kimchi – which all together is a perfect combination:

Wolf’s Stew – so delicious

I then decide to take the bus back from IT Park to the Ayala Mall for only 15 baht, and the travel time was like 7 minutes.  I intentionally ask everyone how to get back to IT Park – as I want to correct the problem that I encountered in my Day 46 - 12 February 2025 trip report,

When I could not find the IT Park bound bus from the Ayala Mall.  I discovered that I was incorrectly waiting at the Luzon Avenue bus stops that are located on Luzon Avenue.  Instead, the IT Park bus passes directly in front of the Ayala Mall Luzon exit that is next to ULLI’s Streets of Asia restaurant that is in the overhang where the taxis are picking up passengers just outside the security control of the mall.  You can see a taxi in the below photo just outside of the security control – it is here that the bus back to IT Park stops.

I go to the Metro department store – basement level to buy body wash, shampoo, and more coconut massage cream oil.  You may remember that I bought body wash back in the Watson’s in Mactan Newtown – but I hated it (because it was a body scrub which contained sand like ingredients) and I gave it to Mr. B.  I buy some take away food from Turks, that sells yummy shawarma wraps for takeaway,    https://www.instagram.com/turksayala/

 

to eat in my room later for dinner.

After I return to my room I promised Mr. B. that I would research where I would like to go during his day off on Tuesday 25 February.  Initially, I fantasized about us going to beautiful Bantayan Island, but the logistics to get there from Cebu City are too complicated for only a 2 day 1 night trip, as it takes 4 hours by van to arrive at the port where the boat is that takes you to the island and then the ferry takes up to 1 hour to cross. So we decide against this idea. 

Bantayan island white powder sand

https://guidetothephilippines.ph/articles/ultimate-guides/bantayan-island-travel-guide

So, I fire up the Grok AI module and it gives us a list of possible places to go that are near Cebu City, and at the same time Mr. B. suggests that we go to the Cebu Safari and Adventure Park.  I read up about this place and I like what it has to offer, especially the ziplining adventure, which I truly find exhilarating and good to pump my heart to excitement. I like this plan and we mutually agree to it.  So, now we both have something exciting to look forward to on Tuesday.  We also discuss transportation modalities as it is quite far outside the city and we decide to employ our Grab taxi off-meter strategy – as that worked very well when we went up into the mountains last month.

I finish writing and posting Day 54 of this trip report.

Eat my Turks shawarma dinner on the balcony, relax, chat with my Thai boyfriend, and then call it a night.

 

Day 56 (22 February 2025) concluded

 

[Olddaddy]

11 hours ago, jason1975 said:

That's great! I am in Bangkok in mid March for 5 days. Thinking of going down to Pattaya for 2 days. Depends on what my guy says.

I will be there from March 5

Ready to dance 🕺💃🕺🕺🕺

[bkkmfj2648]

Day 57 (23 February 2025)

 

As these are my last days in Cebu – I go to eat at one of my favorite breakfast places in the nearby Ayala mall:

https://seattlesbest.com.ph/our-menu/

And I order my favorite dish = Corned Beef Hash Skillet + Iced Mocha coffee:

Afterwards, I take some time to go shopping as I want to buy a nice t-shirt for my Thai boyfriend.  After scouring the entire Ayala mall, and not finding anything “special”, I go to the upscale department store = Rustan’s   https://rustans.com/

and I find a well made designer fashion t-shirt at the BOSS boutique.  The problem is what is the correct size.  I ask the cute Filipino salesclerk what is his size and he responds = small.  I take a medium sized BOSS shirt and I ask the guy if I can use his back to measure the t-shirt against his shoulders - as he is very accommodating to my request.  My Thai boyfriend is slightly larger than this salesclerk.  Consequently, I decide on size medium.

Afterwards, I head back to my room and remain there for the rest of the day/night = boring day = what the life of a retiree can be on some days – as we are not always in hyper vacation mode.

I am missing Thai cuisine and so I order Penang Curry via the Grab app and they deliver it to the lobby of my condo building.  I eat it out on the balcony, and I realize that I inadvertently ordered it to be too spicy,  and as is common when I eat something too spicy, I start to have a mild hiccup attack, and I manage to finish my meal and the hiccups stop after I finish eating.  The meal was yummy – but too spicy.

I go to bed early, as I need to wake up early tomorrow to go to immigration to extend my tourist visa for 5 additional days – to avoid any potential problems when I fly out of the country on Monday 3 March.

 

No massages or extra-curricular activities today.

 

Day 57 (23 February 2025) concluded

[Marc in Calif]

On 2/22/2025 at 10:24 PM, bkkmfj2648 said:

2 years prior - I met a super hot guy in Pattaya who was from Surabaya in Indonesia - and he has been telling me to come to Indonesia - so Indonesia is definitely on the list....

Sounds exciting, considering Indonesia has a population in excess of 280 million inhabitants, where I believe that the majority are circumcised ?

If your goal is to find an apartment or condo with expansive sea views located in a walkable area that is close to some type of gay life, your options in Indonesia are severely limited outside Bali. 

Very few urban centers have high-rise rentals with expansive sea views and a decent gay life. (Even Bali has no high-rise buildings of the type you enjoy in Jomtien.) In Jakarta there are some, but your transportation options from the northern edges of Jakarta will be terrible. And there won't be much to walk to except golf courses. Moreover, the land beneath your building would very likely experience flooding.  

Surabaya also doesn't offer you what you're looking for. Its coastal condo complexes are in the far east of the city -- in the mangrove swamps!

So your choice is basically a low-rise building in Bali, of which there are many. Walkability and neighborhood-like feelings might be limited. But apps will give you the companionship that you enjoy.

Where would I choose? I've been going to Indonesia for move than 50 years, living there for several. My pick for an urban center with a few high-rise complexes that have ocean views would be Makassar, the largest city on Sulawesi island (and in all of eastern Indonesia). It's a lovely "smaller" city (pop. 1.5 million), walkable, with malls and other attractions. It's also close to plenty of day-trip sites. Most of the guys are circumcised (Muslim), and the demographics include immigrants from other islands as well as the hinterlands of Sulawesi, which is itself a huge, amazing island. 

[Olddaddy]

5 hours ago, Marc in Calif said:

If your goal is to find an apartment or condo with expansive sea views located in a walkable area that is close to some type of gay life, your options in Indonesia are severely limited outside Bali. 

Very few urban centers have high-rise rentals with expansive sea views and a decent gay life. (Even Bali has no high-rise buildings of the type you enjoy in Jomtien.) In Jakarta there are some, but your transportation options from the northern edges of Jakarta will be terrible. And there won't be much to walk to except golf courses. Moreover, the land beneath your building would very likely experience flooding.  

Surabaya also doesn't offer you what you're looking for. Its coastal condo complexes are in the far east of the city -- in the mangrove swamps!

So your choice is basically a low-rise building in Bali, of which there are many. Walkability and neighborhood-like feelings might be limited. But apps will give you the companionship that you enjoy.

Where would I choose? I've been going to Indonesia for move than 50 years, living there for several. My pick for an urban center with a few high-rise complexes that have ocean views would be Makassar, the largest city on Sulawesi island (and in all of eastern Indonesia). It's a lovely "smaller" city (pop. 1.5 million), walkable, with malls and other attractions. It's also close to plenty of day-trip sites. Most of the guys are circumcised (Muslim), and the demographics include immigrants from other islands as well as the hinterlands of Sulawesi, which is itself a huge, amazing island. 

Oh yes sounds amazing 

😅i did hear though that Jakarta streets are not the best for....Senior citizens