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Trip report Jan/Feb 2025 - Cebu & beyond - Research if an elderly gay retiree can live comfortably in Cebu

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Posted
30 minutes ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

Go to lunch at the Mactan Alfresco to eat a yummy bowl of ramen with some spring rolls

Haha 😆 I know I am an insufferable nitpicker, but the photo doesn't show spring rolls (lumpia in the Philippines). They show gyoza. I'm pretty sure you know that because you have referred to spring rolls (correctly) before.

Posted
5 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

If I were you I would quickly try the same route using Grab and see how that works out in comparison, preferably on the same day of week so it factors out traffic variability by day of week.

Yes, I already reported on some of my Grab car trips in this trip thread on 31 January (45 minutes) and again on 1 February (1 hour).

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The reason for my Day 46 (12 February 2025) update was to simulate a "like for like" comparison of using the public transportation system in Cebu versus its comparator back in Jomtien.

To go to the Ayala Mall in CBP from Mactan Newtown there is only the public bus option that takes between 114 to 117 minutes and requires 2 buses - as there is no direct route.  This option costs 51 pesos + 15 pesos = 66 pesos = $1.14 USD or 38.55 Thai baht.

Meanwhile, the public transportation option from Jomtien to Pattaya city takes between 15 to 20 minutes and costs 10 Thai baht or 17.12 pesos (can cost 20 Thai baht if you are venturing deeper into Pattaya city).  So this is very good value for time and money.

To reduce the travel time by using the Grab car here in Cebu instead of the public bus, it equates to:

  • a travel time between 45 minutes to 1 hour for a cost of 709.67 pesos = 414.52 Thai baht

This afternoon, 16-Feb-2025, Mr. B. joined me here in Mactan Newtown and he took a image.png.868654a7b8c6d547f0af43666ff9f01f.png motorbike taxi from his hotel where he works, which is just north of the CBP Ayala mall, and the total elapsed time was only 25 minutes.  So, this could also be another option.  I rarely use motorbike taxis back in Pattaya - as I often find the adventure to be too unsafe.  I have used motorbike taxis here in Cebu 2 times and I felt safer - as the intense traffic tends to limit the speeds that the Cebu motorbike drivers can go at - whereas in Pattaya - there just doesn't see to be a speed limit - and as such the motorbike ride in Pattaya can be more harrowing.

 

Posted
9 minutes ago, macaroni21 said:

Haha 😆 I know I am an insufferable nitpicker, but the photo doesn't show spring rolls (lumpia in the Philippines). They show gyoza. I'm pretty sure you know that because you have referred to spring rolls (correctly) before.

Thank God that you exist - I definitely f*%ked up that post.  Yes, those are indeed yummy gyoza and NOT spring rolls. 

I should send my preposts to you for proofreading and editing  😍🤩 before I attempt to make any posts here.

Posted
1 hour ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

Day 49 (15 February 2025)

Today was not a good day, as 2 bad events occurred.

First, I have an argument with my Thai boyfriend “former” money boy – about ?

Can anyone guess?     What is the most favorite topic of “former” money boys ??

 

 

Yes, you guessed it correctly -->

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the  image.png.4b1d064e8f8462e97c46ee50ccf0eb98.png  Thai Baht  image.png.3ae6cceb54521f27a6583d16d6de3630.png

We close our argument with my words to him “leave me alone for some days, as I need to cool off….”

I know, I know, I know - many of you have warned me publicly and privately to NOT invest in any type of relationship with a  "money boy", but after the success stories of our forum members = @Min and @jason1975, I thought that I would try my luck......

As this occurred right after our wonderful Valentine’s Day – it was very disheartening.

 

Secondly, I contact Jeff in the Heesay app – (see Day 45 - 11 February 2025 in this trip report for related information) for a repeat session.  We agree to meet at 8pm.   I go downstairs outside of the OPR condo complex to wait for him on the street.  Eventually, a guy appears and says to me, “massage”.  I look at him perplexed, and I reply, “sorry I am waiting for Jeff”.  This mysterious guy replies, “I am sorry but Jeff is sick and I was sent to you instead”.  I reply, “I am sorry, this is not going to work for me – please go away”.  The guy replies, “but but,…..I can massage…”.  I reply, “no thanks – this is not correct – I do not want you”.  He gets a frown on his face and walks away.

Now I am really pissed off.  Then in the Heesay app (formerly BLUED),  I get another message from a profile that I have never chatted with claiming that this new chat is Jeff.  I tell him to prove it to me and he sends me his picture and in fact it is sexy Jeff from the 11th of February.

I say to him – what was that all about.  He replies, “they took my phone and they were communicating with you”.  I reply that this is not correct and that I am annoyed with this type of shenanigan, and he apologizes many times to me.  He tells me that he can only meet me tomorrow, 16 February – but I tell him that I am busy on 16 and 17 February (as Mr. B. is coming to stay with me for 2 nights so that we can go to Olango island).

Later on in the night, reflecting on what transpired, I can only think that perhaps Jeff is working for a “strici” (the Hungarian word for a pimp boss).  When I lived in Budapest, this was a common practice, that the guys that you would find in Planet Romeo / Hunqz, were sometimes being managed by a “strici”.  So, you would chat on Romeo / Hunqz thinking that you were actually chatting with the hot sexy macho guy that you see in the profile, but instead you are chatting with his “strici” pimp boss.  This was common in Budapest for 2 primary reasons:

  1. The hot sexy gypsy guys could not write in English and could only speak a little in English and they needed someone to help them get clients via the apps – hence the use of a “strici”.
  2. These hot guys were hard up and in debt with their loan shark = “strici”, who then controlled them to work for them by pimping them out on Romeo / Hunqz so that they could pay off their loans to the loan shark.

How do I know this?  I got foolishly romantically involved with some of these guys in BOTH of the above 1 and 2 categories and I heard all about what goes on behind the scenes.

So, I speculate that my Filipino Jeff is perhaps being controlled by the Philippine version of a “strici” pimp boss manager.  I will eventually find out, as I want to meetup with this sexy Jeff guy again before I leave Mactan Newtown to go back to Cebu city.

In the idle time today - I made some progress in my backlog of trip report updates.

 

That is all for today – not much of an interesting day and NO extracurricular activities for today – even though I did try.

 

Day 49 (15 February 2025) concluded.

Sorry to hear about Jeff

Posted
On 2/16/2025 at 10:24 PM, bkkmfj2648 said:

I go to eat lunch at the Mactan Newtown Alfresco open air food court and while I am waiting for my food to be prepared my Thai boyfriend sends me a wonderful photo of him holding the Valentine Day roses that I sent him in his condo room.  I can see from the photo that the florist delivery team managed to get them to him while he was still sleeping – as he has that early morning groggy look – but he is truly happy and so am I that I could make him this nice surprise.

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🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

Posted

Questions ⁉️ 

Are you missing Jomtien?

Can you see yourself staying in Cebu long term?

Are the cost of prices & cost  of living cheaper there?

Posted
On 1/28/2025 at 10:17 PM, bkkmfj2648 said:

Day 27 (24 January 2025)

Today I have my FIRST experience getting my tourist visa extended at the main Cebu immigration office, as my initial 30 day tourist granted to me at the airport is set to expire.  Here is what I did:

1.       Watch this short 3 minute YouTube video of a guy who recently extended his tourist visa in Cebu:  

 

2.       Take Grab car (or any other suitable transportation to the GMall (aka Gaisano Malls)) and go to the 2nd floor, and you will see the Bureau of Immigration (BI) office.  This BI office opens at 9am – even though the mall does not open until 10am.  You just tell the security guard that you need to enter the mall to go to immigration and they will let you in.  When you get off of the escalator you will see the BI office off in the distance – ignore the left side of the BI office – as that is the exit side and walk to the extreme right side so that you are in front of the Information Desk.  If you approach the office on the left side, you may encounter some opportunists (fixers), who want to help you for a fee, and will ask you to give them your passport.  I strongly suggest that you don’t do this.

3.       The Information Desk will give you an Extension of Temporary Visitor’s Visa form for you to complete over at one of the sit down areas that are nearby in the mall.  You will need your own pen.

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If you want to see the form in advance, here is a direct link to the BI web page – valid as of 28-Jan-2025:  https://immigration.gov.ph/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/IRD04.QF_.004-CGAF-FOR-EXTENSION-OF-STAY-OF-TEMPORARY-VISITORS-VISA-1.pdf

Note that on the application form in the Contact Information section it asked for a Mobile Number in the Philippines, which I did not have, as I bought the Airalo eSIM, which is a data only plan without a phone number.  So, I left this part of the form blank and the immigration people did not make a fuss or even ask any questions.

Note that the form will also ask you if you desire “Express” service – click this check box if you want your updated tourist visa within a couple of hours instead of some days later.

1.       Return to the Information Counter and show the BI person your completed form and passport.  He will stamp the extension form if all is good and tell you to go to the Assessment Counter where they calculate how much you need to pay and they will also take your passport and extension form from you and put it into their work queue.

2.       With the receipt given to you by the Assessment Counter you then need to proceed to the Cashier window to pay the fees – see below for fee calculations.

3.       You now wait for your name to be called so that you can then go to the Releasing window to pickup your passport and sign a register book that you are claiming your passport.

Note that you will not receive an additional stamp in your passport but instead an important piece of paper, “Official Receipt”, which now has printed:  VISA VALID UNTIL :  XX XXX XXXX    KEEP this document in your passport in the same page as the tourist visa stamp that you received at the airport.  Note that this first extension only gives you an additional 29 days, whereas, the original entry tourist visa that you obtained at the airport gave you 30 days.

I performed all of the above steps and I was in and out of immigration in just 1 hour and 20 minutes – not bad for someone doing it all by themselves.  Back in Jomtien, this would be a nightmare and that is why I always use an agent in Thailand to streamline as much as is possible when I need to deal with Thai immigration.

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So, I left the BI office as a happy camper.

Ate lunch again at the Ayala mall and then returned to my room.  Now I was feeling horny so I hired a sexy macho straight guy for a 2 hands massage.  I should have known that trouble was brewing when he would not remove his underwear.  His massage was excellent as well as his edging skills.  I was very happy.  But, he became angry when it came time to pay him, as we agreed to the standard 3.000 pesos and I showed him in the app our chat transcript.  He became even more angry and insisted that I pay him 7.000 pesos because I touched his nipples during the massage.  He raised his voice and then I raised my voice and I showed him my pants pockets which only had another 1,200 pesos in random banknotes that he begrudgingly accepted as I showed him the door.  No violence occurred – as I felt that it was definitely heading that way – but the good news is that they cannot enter the condo complex without giving up their National ID card – so I would have ran downstairs to security should the situation have escalated further.  What is weird is that during the massage this guy was chatting and laughing non stop and it felt like the beginnings of a new friendship.  I would have definitely rehired him as he was near excellent in his massage and edging skills.  So, I just don’t understand this Dr. Jeckell and Mr. Hyde bad transformative behavior. 

Any ideas ?

This is day 26 and only my 2nd bad encounter out of around 13 encounters to date.

 

Day 27 (24 January 2025) concluded.

 

May I please ask about how you filled out some of the information on the form? 

Reason for extension: Tourism? Checking for possible retirement location? 

Number of months: (I am staying a total of 3 months, but am still on my original "no visa" 30 days)

Passport date of validity: I assume thats the expiration date?

Thank you!

Posted
1 hour ago, garygx said:

May I please ask about how you filled out some of the information on the form?

Sure

1 hour ago, garygx said:

Reason for extension: Tourism? Checking for possible retirement location? 

Yes - I indicated tourism and to look at possible retirement locations.  None of the immigration officials asked me anything.  The local expats here told me that they will only ask you questions after you have been here for a long time on a tourist visa = like in excess of 6 months or 1 year.  Theoretically, you can keep extending your tourist visa for up to 3 years.

1 hour ago, garygx said:

Number of months: (I am staying a total of 3 months, but am still on my original "no visa" 30 days)

I told the truth = 62 days.  I was given a warning at the airport on day 1 when I got my first 30 day stamp at the airport on arrival when the immigration officer asked me why I had not requested a visa in advance since my known stay would be 62 days and the first tourist visa on arrival stamped into your passport is only for 30 days?  I apologized and I told her that I was ignorant about this requirement.  So, she told me, "I can only give you 30 days in your passport and you will need to go to immigration prior to the expiration of the first 30 days to extend your tourist visa."   --> which is what I did as reported in my Day 27 (24 January 2025) trip report update.  

--> Note that your first tourist visa extension is only for 29 additional days.

Consequently, in my specific case, I will need to go back to immigration next week to extend my tourist visa for an additional 3 days, to satisfy the full 62 days that I will be here as a tourist.

1 hour ago, garygx said:

Passport date of validity: I assume thats the expiration date?

yes - it is the validity through date (expiration) printed in your passport

 

@garygx, Enjoy your stay in the Philippines. 

If I may, can I ask where will you visit ? 

Posted

Currently I am in Poblacion area of makati. I found a decent condo to rent for 3 months @25k per. Unfortunately it has no wifi and I am hopefully getting that today. I will visit Baguio this weekend to enjoy some of the festivals going on there now. Overall, I will explore different areas of Metro Manila to see what might work for a longer term stay in the future and possibly take a few other side trips, budget allowing.

 

Posted
22 minutes ago, garygx said:

Currently I am in Poblacion area of makati. I found a decent condo to rent for 3 months @25k per.

Sounds good.  Thanks for sharing this information with us.

Are you like me scouting for possible retirement destinations ?

If yes, please share with us your findings from your on the ground research - as our gayguides.com forum has hardly any details about successfully retiring in the Philippines.

Enjoy your trip to Baguio.

Posted
12 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

Yes.  You need to leave Jomtien to appreciate what it has to offer:

Wise old  @vinapu dispenses wisdom occasionally .... the one that sticks with me the most:

If you live in Thailand, you can't look forward to "visiting" Thailand....👍

I'll wait for his reply about using  "old"😵

Posted
8 hours ago, floridarob said:

Wise old  @vinapu dispenses wisdom occasionally .... the one that sticks with me the most:

If you live in Thailand, you can't look forward to "visiting" Thailand....👍

I'll wait for his reply about using  "old"😵

Since I can live with ' wise' I'll let you go with 'old' 

Posted
14 minutes ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

One of the DANGERS of our gayguides.com forum is that as an Author of a thread and/or article we lose the right to make further edits after 15 to 20 minutes. 

Yes. That's why I usually edit and proofread a few times before submitting a comment. Then I check it again after it's published.

I've edited my comment above to remove any trace! I think you can still do the same to delete the two sentences where you quoted me.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Marc in Calif said:

Yes. That's why I usually edit and proofread a few times before submitting a comment. Then I check it again after it's published.

And I always perform a pre-edit in WORD and then I post and I do another edit within the gayguides.com editor and then after I click on the save button and my article/update is posted - I read it again and I use the within the forum software the edit button to fix anything that may have slipped through in the previous 2 edit screenings.

As this specific Cebu Olango post was very long and very special - that 1 mistake slipped through.  It is difficult when we use an alias to refer to someone when we are close to them and know very well their real name.  Even @macaroni21 has brought to my attention how I swapped the alias of Mr. B. with another alias of Mr. M..

8 minutes ago, Marc in Calif said:

I've edited my comment above to remove any trace! I think you can still do the same to delete the two sentences where you quoted me.

Many thanks for your kind intervention.  I have since written to our gayguides.com admin (TotallyOz) to ask for his kind intervention to correct my dufus mistake.

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