The one thing I agree with Trump about

[unicorn]

I just read that the man believed to start one of the Los Angeles County fires (found with a blowtorch near the site where one of the blazes started) was an illegal immigrant with multiple convictions, including a felony conviction for assault with a deadly weapon, for which he was on parole. I find it insane that this man wasn't even deported. It's news items like this which infuriated much of the public. I mean, one could make an argument for not notifying ICE for petty theft, but assault with a deadly weapon or any other felony?

https://www.newsweek.com/la-wildfires-cause-illegal-immigrant-ice-sanctuary-state-2014914

"...According to ICE, Sierra is a 33-year-old Mexican national who arrived in the U.S. illegally. He also goes by the names Juan Manuel Sierra-Leyva, Juan Leva, Leyva Moniker and Juan Sierra. He entered the U.S. at an unknown date and has had multiple encounters with law enforcement since November 2016. Sierra was convicted of assault with a deadly weapon on October 10, 2023, in Van Nuys, California. The Times reported he had been under probation supervision since that time...".

 

[unicorn]

https://nypost.com/2025/01/13/us-news/la-case-of-blow-torch-homeless-man-sparks-new-debate-over-vagrant-crisis/

"...Juan Manuel Sierra-Leyva, an illegal migrant from Mexico, was nabbed Thursday by LA residents who allegedly saw him torching old Christmas trees and debris with what one local described as a “flamethrower” soon after a massive wildfire began in the region. Cops arrested him, but he has not been charged, at least yet...“50% of the fires in Los Angeles are homeless related, costing LA hundreds of millions,” former Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department Chief Patrick Jordan wrote on X on Sunday...". 

https://krcrtv.com/news/nation-world/illegal-migrant-is-person-of-interest-in-californias-kenneth-fire-ice-says-juan-manuel-sierra-leyva-woodland-hills-los-angeles#

"Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials on Tuesday announced a "person of interest" in relation to a California fire entered the U.S. illegally. The Los Angeles Police Department on Friday arrested Juan Manuel Sierra-Leyva, 33, on felony probation violation. He entered the U.S. illegally at an unknown date and time, according to ICE. Witnesses claimed to KTLA Sierra-Leyva was seen attempting to start a blaze with a “propane tank or a flamethrower" in Woodland Hills near the Kenneth fire. Neighbors who witnessed the scene reportedly cornered Sierra-Leyva and forced him to his knees.

The neighbors then performed a citizen’s arrest using zip ties and rope to restrain the illegal migrant until authorities arrived, KTLA reported. The Kenneth fire was eventually fully contained, according to officials. ICE noted Sierra-Leyva has “multiple encounters with law enforcement from November 2016 to present for a variety of charges," as well as was convicted of assault with a deadly weapon in October 2023...". 

[vinapu]

I will venture to opine that in USA , like in every country of the world most crimes of any kind are done by citizens and legal residents so trying to dump it on illegals is just a lousy piece of argument.

Guy who shot at Orange Overlord in summer wasn't illegal immigrant , neither was Jeffrey Dahmer nor guy who blew federal building in Oklahoma City.

Nothing wrong with agreeing with Trump on any issue but agreeing on one usually leads to following agreements on other issues  and not before long one may find himself in the middle of MAGA crowd , bullhorn on the head.

[Suckrates]

I would be VERY careful about believing ANY news before personally vetting it on several news sources.   We have seen FAKE info regarding immigrants before.... Remember those Haitians eating pets in Springfield Ohio....

Trump is a shady and maniacal creature, who I wouldnt doubt would have a story planted about immigrants to serve his narrative and upcoming Mass Deportation plan....

According to Trump and crazy MAGA, immigrants are the root of ALL EVIL...... and we know Trump never lets a conspiracy theory go .....

I also doubt going forward we will NEVER have the truth about anything making our news as it will pertain to Trump.....  His goal is always to make the Dems seem and look bad, while elevating himself to Godlike status.     Its gonna be a Fucked Up 4 years. 

[unicorn]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

I will venture to opine that in USA , like in every country of the world most crimes of any kind are done by citizens and legal residents so trying to dump it on illegals is just a lousy piece of argument...

I did not suggest that most criminals are illegal immigrants, nor that most illegal immigrants are criminals, nor even that it's a good idea to deport otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants. What I did (and do) suggest is that those who are known to be violent, dangerous criminals (i.e. this one, who'd been convicted of assault with a deadly weapon) should be incarcerated and then deported when they've finished their sentences. 

[stevenkesslar]

On 1/15/2025 at 1:16 PM, vinapu said:

Nothing wrong with agreeing with Trump on any issue but agreeing on one usually leads to following agreements on other issues  and not before long one may find himself in the middle of MAGA crowd , bullhorn on the head.

Everything you said is true.

But there's one other thing that is true, in every country in the world.  Certainly in Europe right now.   Immigrants are convenient political scapegoats.   They do lots of good things for society.  Including helping blowhards like Trump get elected.  This is just a fact.  The far right has won in a few places in Europe and they have come dangerously close in others by scapegoating immigrants.  And now we have Trump.

So if there is any issue where my party, Democrats, said, "Hey.  Here's a thought.  Let's fuck ourselves.  Let's lose.  Why not be losers?"  this is it.  This is Democrats' fault.  Meaning me.  My party.  We fucked up.   And to be clear, this has nothing to do with what is right and wrong  It has to do with a 100 % correct way to lose an election.

In other words, Obama was wise and Biden was a stupid dumb ass.  Obama road the center on immigration.  In part because as the Black son of immigrants he was vulnerable himself.  It worked.  Obama's ex-staff, like on Pod Save America, talk all the time about how they were careful not to pander to the off-center impulses of left-wing immigration groups.  Especially when they pushed Obama to do politically unpopular things. 

Biden of course knows this (see crime bills, 1980s, among others) and he won the nomination in 2020 by being the Democrat pandering to the center left.  So why he let this happen is really a bit of a mystery.  I'd take it as an indicator that his political instincts really did start to get old and tired.

Trump said, correctly I think, that he won because of inflation and the border.  If you live on a planet called Earth, you know pretty much everyone everywhere at once was hit hard by inflation.  So I don't blame Biden and Harris for that, like many voters did.  I do blame them for the political set up on the border.  Obama simply played his cards better.  And he won in 2012 despite being in a much shittier economic situation than Biden and Harris were in.

The interesting thing the American media is completely ignoring is that a very different result happened in Mexico, despite the fact that inflation was as bad or worse.  AMLO hand picked his leftist successor and she simply kicked ass.  I think it is because AMLO is a genuine populist who would simply not shut the fuck up every single day about how he was fighting for YOU.  And he did.  And he had the receipts.  I think that is why people in Mexico leaned into AMLO, whereas Mexican Americans leaned into Trump. 

It was the economy, stupid.  But it is ironic that Biden probably thought being soft on the border would help him with Latinos.  And it probably hurt him instead.

[bucknaway]

If you're an expat one thing you will have to keep an eye on is the strength of the dollar. With Trump wanting to increase exports the dollar will need to be weakened to allow other countries an incentive to buy our goods. If you're on a fixed income living in another country this could affect you in a negative way.

[Suckrates]

On 1/15/2025 at 6:49 PM, unicorn said:

I did not suggest that most criminals are illegal immigrants, nor that most illegal immigrants are criminals, nor even that it's a good idea to deport otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants. What I did (and do) suggest is that those who are known to be violent, dangerous criminals (i.e. this one, who'd been convicted of assault with a deadly weapon) should be incarcerated and then deported when they've finished their sentences. 

Not sure WHY you agree with Trump that "dangerous" immigrants must be deported, while HE apparently believes that dangerous and convicted insurrectionists should be PARDONED and elevated to Hero status.   Oh wait,  the immigrants are mostly "of color"  and the insurrectionists are almost ALL WHITE.......   And THATS a fact !   😡😡

[stevenkesslar]

5 hours ago, Suckrates said:

Not sure WHY you agree with Trump that "dangerous" immigrants must be deported, while HE apparently believes that dangerous and convicted insurrectionists should be PARDONED and elevated to Hero status.   Oh wait,  the immigrants are mostly "of color"  and the insurrectionists are almost ALL WHITE.......   And THATS a fact !   😡😡

And the J6 pardons are wildly unpopular, especially among the Independents Trump needed to win.

Almost 6 in 10 opposed Trump pardons for Jan. 6 rioters: Survey

There is this perpetual hope, which I myself feel sometimes, that Trump will rise to the occasion and play to the center.  And try to solve real problems like the deficits he helped explode in his first term, etc.   There's even talk that he wants to expand the child tax credits to sharply reduce child poverty, like Biden did for one year - until Manchin and the Republicans killed that awful idea.

So what we seem to always come back to is that Trump is Trump.  The Jubilant Patriotic Cop Beating was a day of love.

If you see a cop today, try to be nice.  And carry a baseball bat, so you can break her bones and fuck her up some.  Trump will be proud of you.

 

[Suckrates]

5 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

And the J6 pardons are wildly unpopular, especially among the Independents Trump needed to win.

Almost 6 in 10 opposed Trump pardons for Jan. 6 rioters: Survey

There is this perpetual hope, which I myself feel sometimes, that Trump will rise to the occasion and play to the center.  And try to solve real problems like the deficits he helped explode in his first term, etc.   There's even talk that he wants to expand the child tax credits to sharply reduce child poverty, like Biden did for one year - until Manchin and the Republicans killed that awful idea.

So what we seem to always come back to is that Trump is Trump.  The Jubilant Patriotic Cop Beating was a day of love.

If you see a cop today, try to be nice.  And carry a baseball bat, so you can break her bones and fuck her up some.  Trump will be proud of you.

 

Everyone KNEW the pardons were coming.  Trumps been trumpeting them since he announced running for 2024, and the Trump sect of Americans still voted for it.

The narrative that Trump is Trump, and he does alot of talking but not alot of action fueled the idea that the pardons were just a campaign ploy,  but Trumps demented desire to whitewash the J6 insurrection would only be successfully achieved if there were NO prisoners, and his releasing of them achieved that, and fully exonerates him, in HIS own mind !    And I suspect he will employ every other oppressive action he promised, simply because he can with no obstruction and a complete immunity from the Supreme Court.  So just imagine what's coming ?   

[unicorn]

15 hours ago, Suckrates said:

Not sure WHY you agree with Trump that "dangerous" immigrants must be deported, while HE apparently believes that dangerous and convicted insurrectionists should be PARDONED and elevated to Hero status...

Not too complicated to understand. Those are two entirely separate issues. Just because I disagree with Trump most of the time (like probably over 95% of the time) doesn't mean I can't agree with him on a single issue. In fact, most people agree that the insurrectionists should not have been pardoned, especially the violent ones. While his decision was predictable, obviously letting those people out was a horrible decision. However, most people would also agree that violent criminals who are also in the country illegally should be sent back to their country of citizenship. 

[Suckrates]

2 hours ago, unicorn said:

Not too complicated to understand. Those are two entirely separate issues. Just because I disagree with Trump most of the time (like probably over 95% of the time) doesn't mean I can't agree with him on a single issue. In fact, most people agree that the insurrectionists should not have been pardoned, especially the violent ones. While his decision was predictable, obviously letting those people out was a horrible decision. However, most people would also agree that violent criminals who are also in the country illegally should be sent back to their country of citizenship. 

Its HYPOCRICY to its core.  If you are a dangerous person, either way you MUST be dealt with, of course.  Any sane, rational person will agree. But the dangerous ones of color need to be sent back to their "shithole" countries, while the WHITE NATIONALIST ones must be celebrated at the White house, according to the new King..    I think you can AGREE how ridiculous and blatantly racist that is, which no one seems to be acknowledging  ?     This "dangerous immigrant" thing is all a LIE,  constructed for Trump and his demonic posse to do what they want to create an ALL White nation. ....  If it were about DANGER, Trump would have given a thought to the release of many of the J6 convicts.    So jumping to siding with Trump on any issue requires a bit more inspection and introspection. 

[unicorn]

3 hours ago, Suckrates said:

Its HYPOCRICY to its core...

Well, you won't get disagreement from me regarding whether Trump is a hypocrite. He obviously freed the J6 terrorists because he wants these violent criminals on his side, and wants it to be known that as long as he's in charge, those who commit violence in his name have nothing to fear (dangerous thug that he is himself). However, almost everyone would agree that people convicted of assault with a deadly weapon should not be welcomed in this country (a tiny minority of immigrants, to be sure). It's nutty talk that we should welcome these convicts which helped get that bozo elected. 

[bucknaway]

21 hours ago, Suckrates said:

Not sure WHY you agree with Trump that "dangerous" immigrants must be deported, while HE apparently believes that dangerous and convicted insurrectionists should be PARDONED and elevated to Hero status.   Oh wait,  the immigrants are mostly "of color"  and the insurrectionists are almost ALL WHITE.......   And THATS a fact !   😡😡

All those dangerous insurrectionist that had no weapons 🥱. I'm sorry but I'm not going to go along with the narrative. Decides nobody was ever convicted of insurrection. But that doesn't stop me from agreeing with things I approve of from the president. Now I agree with him releasing information on Martin Luther King and the Kennedy assassinations

[bucknaway]

Another thing I agree with is President Trump redirecting 2 billion dollars from FEMA that was being used to support illegal aliens now being used to support families suffering from flood damage in North Carolina. 

 

was any of that $2 billion dollars previously being used for illegal aliens?

 

I asked the AI if Donald Trump redirected the money from FEMA that was previously to be used to support illegal aliens...

 

This is the answer it provided.

Yes, some of the $2 billion redirected by President Trump to North Carolina disaster relief reportedly came from funds that were previously being used to support programs for illegal immigrants. A social media post and reports indicate that Trump redirected FEMA money that had been allocated for initiatives involving illegal immigration, such as migrant processing and benefits, to prioritize disaster recovery in Western North Carolina[3][6].

Citations:
[1] FACT SHEET: President Donald J. Trump Protects the States and ... https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-protects-the-states-and-the-american-people-by-closing-the-border-to-illegals-via-proclamation/
[2] FEMA faces shakeup under Trump while it wrestles with disasters on ... https://www.yahoo.com/news/fema-faces-shakeup-under-trump-210411310.html
[3] [PDF] The Cost of the Border Crisis Testimony before the House Budget ... https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/117257/witnesses/HHRG-118-BU00-Wstate-KirchnerJ-20240508.pdf
[4] WATCH: Trump repeats falsehoods about FEMA relief efforts ... - PBS https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-trump-delivers-remarks-after-surveying-hurricane-helene-damage-in-north-carolina
[5] Gov. Stein confirms President Trump's North Carolina visit - Yahoo https://www.yahoo.com/news/ny-post-reports-president-trump-181107289.html
[6] MovingNCForward on X https://x.com/MovingNCForward/status/1882237173820530821
[7] Trump Administration Accomplishments – The White House https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/
 

[Suckrates]

37 minutes ago, bucknaway said:

All those dangerous insurrectionist that had no weapons 🥱. I'm sorry but I'm not going to go along with the narrative. Decides nobody was ever convicted of insurrection. But that doesn't stop me from agreeing with things I approve of from the president. Now I agree with him releasing information on Martin Luther King and the Kennedy assassinations

If you break into a home or business, whether armed or not, ITS A CRIME, and if proven guilty, you go to jail.  .   Many went to jail for violently breeching the Capitol and attempting to interrupt the lawful transfer of power.  Unless you are an election denier, and believe Trump won 2020, there is no way you shouldnt believe all those J6'ers belong in prison.  But if you are a loyal Trump cult member, I can see where you wouldnt.   You obviously would have adopted his "Day of Love" narrative.   

[bucknaway]

Just now, Suckrates said:

If you break into a home or business, whether armed or not, ITS A CRIME, and if proven guilty, you go to jail.  .   Many went to jail for violently breeching the Capitol and attempting to interrupt the lawful transfer of power.  Unless you are an election denier, and believe Trump won 2020, there is no way you shouldnt believe all those J6'ers belong in prison.  But if you are a loyal Trump cult member, I can see where you wouldnt.   You obviously would have adopted his "Day of Love" narrative.   

I'm not going to haunt this topic about moot points.  But we all know that a lot of those people sitting in jail we're only in jail because they walk through open doors that were being held open by those in a policing role at the Capitol. There's even footage of some being escorted around but yet still prosecuted and locked up.  

 

I'm of the opinion that they were over prosecuted. That's just my opinion and I am not mad at President Trump pardoning and commuting sentences.

 

But that's old news and now I'm living in today and so far I am pleased with the actions that the president has taken.

[Suckrates]

1 hour ago, bucknaway said:

I'm not going to haunt this topic about moot points.  But we all know that a lot of those people sitting in jail we're only in jail because they walk through open doors that were being held open by those in a policing role at the Capitol. There's even footage of some being escorted around but yet still prosecuted and locked up.  

 

I'm of the opinion that they were over prosecuted. That's just my opinion and I am not mad at President Trump pardoning and commuting sentences.

 

But that's old news and now I'm living in today and so far I am pleased with the actions that the president has taken.

Thats a heinous LIE.  Each J6 participant was given due process and trial before Grand juries that convicted them of their crimes.  Some even admitted there unlawful deeds.  No one that simply walked thru the doors was jailed.  If that were the case, think of how many MORE people would be in prison.   Shame on you for adopting that Fox News talking point and trying to make us buy it here.    You KNOW better..... And we all SAW what happened that day. 

I guess we will have to wait until some of Trumps actions directly impact YOU before you will actually open your eyes and ears and Pay Attention to the impact of his oppressive actions,  to consolidate governmental power to be Totally in his tiny immunized hands.    I am confident the day will come when you will regret your embrace of Trump.

Trump will only be good for himself and his Billionaire bros,  NOT YOU !    

God Bless 

[bucknaway]

Trump was very good for the North Carolina flood victims sleeping in tents... Freezing to death while sleeping outside in tents. He put them in long term furnished homes forcing everyone to ask why wasn't this done under Biden...

 

Another possible good thing is the boom in crypto. Trump has not made me a billionaire but maybe one day...

[a-447]

12 hours ago, bucknaway said:

Now I agree with him releasing information on Martin Luther King and the Kennedy assassinations

Do you agree that Trump should also release the files on Jeffrey Epstein?

[bucknaway]

2 hours ago, a-447 said:

Do you agree that Trump should also release the files on Jeffrey Epstein?

He said he would and so far he is keeping his promises.

This was from a Newsweek article written before Trump was reelected. Provided by chat GPT

former President Donald Trump has indicated that he would consider releasing files related to Jeffrey Epstein if re-elected. In a September 2024 interview with podcaster Lex Fridman, Trump stated he would "certainly take a look at it" and added, "I'd have no problem with it." 

 

However, in a June 2024 interview on "Fox & Friends," when asked about declassifying Epstein-related documents, Trump expressed some reservations, noting concerns about potentially "phony stuff" affecting people's lives. 

 

Therefore, while Trump has shown openness to the idea, he has also expressed caution regarding the release of Epstein-related files.

 

[Suckrates]

34 minutes ago, bucknaway said:

He said he would and so far he is keeping his promises.

This was from a Newsweek article written before Trump was reelected. Provided by chat GPT

former President Donald Trump has indicated that he would consider releasing files related to Jeffrey Epstein if re-elected. In a September 2024 interview with podcaster Lex Fridman, Trump stated he would "certainly take a look at it" and added, "I'd have no problem with it." 

 

However, in a June 2024 interview on "Fox & Friends," when asked about declassifying Epstein-related documents, Trump expressed some reservations, noting concerns about potentially "phony stuff" affecting people's lives. 

 

Therefore, while Trump has shown openness to the idea, he has also expressed caution regarding the release of Epstein-related files.

 

Of course he LIED again, but obviously that doesnt concern you.   We will NEVER see ANYTHING that implicates Trump  for anything .  And now he has HIS DOJ to protect him.

Trump has set the bar so low for a leader, and even just a regular normal person, that if he tells a singular truth about something, its like the Messiah came down.  Look at the big picture, and how Trump is destroying its "landscape", and then reconsider your faithful support, which you will "learn" is misplaced.  Simply weigh the ratio of his LIES against an occasional truth, and your support should be a no brainer. 

[Goober]

6 hours ago, bucknaway said:

He put them in long term furnished homes...

Link?

[Suckrates]

8 minutes ago, Goober said:

Link?

 

6 hours ago, bucknaway said:

Trump was very good for the North Carolina flood victims sleeping in tents... Freezing to death while sleeping outside in tents. He put them in long term furnished homes forcing everyone to ask why wasn't this done under Biden...

 

Another possible good thing is the boom in crypto. Trump has not made me a billionaire but maybe one day...

 

Sure he did?   But now he wants to eliminate FEMA, a bureau providing disaster support and relief to victims.     Do those 2 things go together in a rational mind ?  and makes YOUR claim seem like just another Trump "fantasy"...

[bucknaway]

22 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

 

 

Sure he did?   But now he wants to eliminate FEMA, a bureau providing disaster support and relief to victims.     Do those 2 things go together in a rational mind ?  and makes YOUR claim seem like just another Trump "fantasy"...