Charlie Woods' hole-in-one

[reader]

5 minutes ago, Moses said:

views means nothing, replies show audience engagement:

3 replies with less views is better for forum, because each reply is additional content

If we use that logic then topics in Politics Forum (that produce prodigious replies) would be most popular on the board.

[vinapu]

11 minutes ago, Moses said:

3 replies with less views is better for forum, because each reply is additional content

not so sure , reading some replies to various posts I'm of strong opinion that forum would be better served if replies  were missed 

[Moses]

1 minute ago, reader said:

If we use that logic then topics in Politics Forum (that produce prodigious replies) would be most popular on the board.

correct,

the problem for forum is what that political subforum isn't relevant to forum's mainstream "where to go to buy hole or stick more cheap and safely", so political content works against forum's interests... it blurs the focus of the forum, indexed by search engines and lowers the forum in the search results for basic queries like "where to buy a boy cheap?" 

[vinapu]

14 minutes ago, Moses said:

views means nothing,

 

9 minutes ago, Moses said:

nope, because you never know what is behind of each view - there may be "oh, it is interesting" or may be "oh, again that  shit" or "oh, again click bite header with zero info", and each reaction still generates 1 view

I very respectfully disagree.

If thread generates say, 10000 views and only 100 responses , chances are that  relatively very few of those visits are by those who read thread just to vomit over it.

I'd venture to say that many of those visitors to that thread will read other posts in given section of forum as well while multiple responses may mean two or three members endlessly quarrelling over something like you  and me about quality of freedoms in certain country between Caucasus and Alaska .

 

[Moses]

9 minutes ago, vinapu said:

I very respectfully disagree.

If thread generates say, 10000 views and only 100 responses , chances are that  relatively very few of those visits are by those who read thread just to vomit over it.

I respect you and your opinion, but behind my words there are 20+ years of experience in owning and managing forums.

The number of views is not interesting in itself, it can be taken into account only when you have a second indicator in addition to this number - time spent on the page. Because without it, the number of views can show only one thing - how well the topic title is written, whether it is clickbaitable enough.

[reader]

This topic has garnered 54 replies.

Not bad for a story about hole-in-one.

[Moses]

2 minutes ago, reader said:

Not bad for a story about hole-in-one.

here is 1 (one) reply relevant to topic

[Moses]

by the way: on all my forums political subforums are hidden from indexing by search engines, I don't want focus blurring

[unicorn]

3 hours ago, reader said:

This topic has garnered 54 replies.

Not bad for a story about hole-in-one.

Except that none of the replies discusses the original posting, which was uninteresting. You have every right to post what you wish. Some would prefer that your posts had more broad appeal. I only looked because I saw the large number of replies and views, so I was curious as to where the interest lay. Ironically, the string is interesting, but not because of the OP.

[floridarob]

7 hours ago, vinapu said:

We should treat this board like bookstore, go to the section which interests you and skip those which don't . If you see authors you don't read, just leave their book on the shelf.

A porn store/site came to my mind for the analogy..... 🤷‍♂️

There are some topics when I see the last reply was by ****  I already am rolling my eyes, but I'm sure the same happens to others when they see my name.....

Never going to please everyone anyway.... you can always ask @TotallyOz for a refund.

As far as @Moses analysts of which traffic/post/comments are most useful,  again, that depends on the site owner, I would imagine....because after all the years I've known him, I'm not quite sure he's right in the head 😝 (joking)

What reader reposts sometimes are of interest to me, sometimes no.....  but he's not forcing anyone to read them as far as I know..... I'm glad I've stayed away from even looking at the political forum, too toxic.

[reader]

5 hours ago, unicorn said:

Some would prefer that your posts had more broad appeal. I only looked because I saw the large number of replies and views, so I was curious as to where the interest lay. Ironically, the string is interesting, but not because of the OP.

As for the OP, Tiger Woods is a golfing legend. That his mother is Thai certainly gives the article local flavor. And to see his son display some of the same talent registers across the golfing community.

As to where my interests lay I earlier addressed them in this thread:

I view the board as a canvas. I look for articles that may be of particular general interest beyond the always popular news about venues and changes in the local scene. Other topics that I know affect all members (i.e., airlines, current events in ASEAN area, tourism, accommodations) get preference.

If you look at my posts across all the subforums you find that my interests cover a lot of ground, none more so than the massage business in Bangkok. When I'm in town, I try to keep the board informed about venues I've visited.

Regardless of what I post, I'm aware that some fall into the information only category. For example, if I post about bars being closed for a Buddhist holiday I don't expect it ill generate much discussion but is nevertheless useful to members in bkk at the moment. But if I post about a new bar, I anticipate it will ignite some lively conversation over an extended period. Both posts are informative but as always been the case in this forum, trip and venue reports generate the widest interest.

We have to look no further than recent trip reports by Jason, Min and Vinapu. They are the classic meat and potatoes of Gay Thailand.

 

 

[vinapu]

9 hours ago, reader said:

This topic has garnered 54 replies.

 

it would be nice if somebody explained what we were talking about throughout those 3 pages

[vinapu]

45 minutes ago, reader said:

If you look at my posts across all the subforums you find that my interests cover a lot of ground, none more so than the massage business in Bangkok. When I'm in town, I try to keep the board informed about venues I've visited.

 

you don't need to explain yourself, keep posting whatever you find worth posting and if in doubt recall this quotation from Floridarob Book Of Smart Wisdom :

4 hours ago, floridarob said:

Never going to please everyone anyway.... 
 

 

[vinapu]

9 hours ago, Moses said:

 behind my words there are 20+ years of experience in owning and managing forums.

 

all good but keep in mind that sometimes views of store owner and his customer are not aligned.

Owner is interested in selling brand of butter with higher markup, customer is looking for brand his wife told him to buy so she is not yapping when he returns.

both motivations are rational yet often they can't meet in the middle.

Speaking human - when we post we should not expect to interest everybody and when we read post , not always we may classify it as time well spent. Still it's nice that there's traffic on the board. 

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, floridarob said:

There are some topics when I see the last reply was by ****  I already am rolling my eyes, but I'm sure the same happens to others when they see my name.....
 

tell us something we don't know

[reader]

9 hours ago, Moses said:

The number of views is not interesting in itself, it can be taken into account only when you have a second indicator in addition to this number - time spent on the page. Because without it, the number of views can show only one thing - how well the topic title is written, whether it is clickbaitable enough.

Look at any cable news or newspaper website and you find all of them battling to phrase headlines to get readers to click on it. That, however, is nothing new and goes back a century or more in print media history where the headline and first paragraph determine if the article will get read to its conclusion. Headline writing is an art: give the reader just enough information to whet his appetite but don't try to tell the whole story.

13 minutes ago, vinapu said:

it would be nice if somebody explained what we were talking about throughout those 3 pages

What we didn't like instead of what we did.

10 minutes ago, vinapu said:

you don't need to explain yourself, keep posting whatever you find worth posting and if in doubt recall this quotation from Floridarob Book Of Smart Wisdom "

 

4 hours ago, floridarob said:

Never going to please everyone anyway..

Amen to that.

[Moses]

3 hours ago, reader said:

Look at any cable news or newspaper website and you find all of them battling to phrase headlines to get readers to click on it. That, however, is nothing new and goes back a century or more in print media history where the headline and first paragraph determine if the article will get read to its conclusion. Headline writing is an art: give the reader just enough information to whet his appetite but don't try to tell the whole story.

Bad example: both cn and newspaper monetization models are totally opposite to forums - there ppl pay before to get content, monetization of forum is going after ppl got content.

Anyway, I think it is enough to talk about that: we both are just members here. 

[reader]

27 minutes ago, Moses said:

Bad example: both cn and newspaper monetization models are totally opposite to forums - there ppl pay before to get content, monetization of forum is going after ppl got content.

Bad example. BBC is totally free. CNN and CNBC are both free but you can subscribe to additional content if you wish. All the Thai and ASEAN news sites are free.

27 minutes ago, Moses said:

Anyway, I think it is enough to talk about that: we both are just members here. 

Agree.

[floridarob]

8 hours ago, reader said:

goes back a century or more in print media history where the headline and first paragraph determine if the article will get read to its conclusion

So you started young then 😉

[TotallyOz]

Admittedly, I first read this post and thought, "oh my, has reader gone back to see one of the ping pong pussy shows and the lady got a hole in one."  I know you think I jest. But, I have seen it. I've seen even more bizarre in Crazy Dragon years back when a guy pulled 100 razor blades out of his ass. Oh, well, to each his own. I'm happy that so many are crazy about Tiger. I've always enjoyed watching him play and as an expert golfer myself, I still yearn for that hole in one. (although I did have a hole that was filled with one last night but I don't think that is the same thing)

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, TotallyOz said:

 I'm happy that so many are crazy about Tiger.

me too but not that Tiger.

I used to be crazy about Tiger from Tawan but he disappeared from the scene. Now I'm developing hots for Tiger from Moonlight

[10tazione]

5 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

ping pong pussy shows

Now that we are (almost) back to the original topic: Can someone recommend a bar for this? I am always teasing certain straight guy in HM beer bar, lets go watch a ping pong show, and one day, with a sufficient alcohol level, i might well invite him. Is it true that it is better at Nana?

[TotallyOz]

5 hours ago, 10tazione said:

Now that we are (almost) back to the original topic: Can someone recommend a bar for this? I am always teasing certain straight guy in HM beer bar, lets go watch a ping pong show, and one day, with a sufficient alcohol level, i might well invite him. Is it true that it is better at Nana?

I have seen them in Bangkok but the best was walking street in Pattaya. She was a true expert.