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32 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

whatsapp and then f2f

Reading your posts takes a talent, but some stuff I can't figure out 🤷‍♂️

 

 

34 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

I feel VERY lucky and blessed to 2 out of 2. Had a great time with them, nice intelligent and sexy young men - each in his own way. No money exchanged hands. Of course I paid all expenses, and J also got 8 books as gifts. For A, the very visit to Bogota and via plane 2 boot was birthday gift enough.

Do you understand my confusion over the money people are throwing at guys in Thailand to do something like this?

Coincidently, I'm booking a trip at this very moment to Medellin the end of Jan 😳

No doubt you've seen these or did you invent them 👇
 

 


 

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M sorry 4 all the points in which my post was difficult 2 undrstnd.

I don't undrstnd ur referrence 2 Thailand. If by "throwing money" u mean the expenses I incurred 4 the company of these 2 guys, I dont see it as "throwing" any more than payment 4 regular tourist services. In fact, since they both preferred not 2 b paid, I "threw" relatively VERY little money. [The prices of car rental and hotel rooms don't change per person.]

The sheer excitement of J at his 1st ever journey outside Medellin topped by his 1st flight, was 4 him much more than money. It warmed my heart 2 b the agent of his adventures.

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My reference to Thailand wasn't towards you.... the stories told here and that I've overheard in bars/restaurants amazes me how much of a "per diem" that's paid to guys to go with them as company with some sex.

Look what you did in Colombia and the guys were happy without money exchanged, just for the experience..... that's what I'm talking about.

 

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Ah happy for you both, glad you had a great time👍 Were they both speaking English or was It more of a spanglish?:) I'm failing at Spanish (had no time to study) and a bit concerned that I might not learn much before the end of Jan for my trip. 

Also, how was Cali? The safety and communication?

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On 12/22/2024 at 12:28 AM, 12is12 said:

For me sex is an important part of travels, but the main thing is sightseeing. In Latin America there's also the goal of practicing my spanish.

Maup and I have a bit of a correspondence history. I told him I'm coming 2 Medellin and will b looking 4 BF material to accompany me on a week of self-drive to Cali. He connected me with J, one of his regulars.
J is an unemployed 19 y/o twink from Venezuela. There was an instant click - whatsapp and then f2f when I landed on Wednesday (including in bed).

Maup arrived 16 hours after me. We met three times; a pleasure in itself. Thank you Maup!

I also posted in Grinder and other apps a "wanted" - ad (in Spanish): looking 4 a guy who can hold a conversation and travel outside the city, and enjoys sex with mature men. Was inundated with responses, but almost all didnt fill the 1st criteria.

Then, on Saturday A appeared - 23 y/o, employed and even lives alone in a rented studio. He was nuts over me, and wanted to accompany on the trip, even at the price of cashing in some vacation days.

I decided to take it slowly; cancelled my Communa 13 Sunday with J; and went with A instead. Had a great day (including the sex again); which convinced me 2 split my time btw them. J joined me on Tuesday for the car trip, until Monday in Cali; and I flew A to Bogota 2 join me there on Wednesday 4 a VERY long weekend.

I feel VERY lucky and blessed to 2 out of 2. Had a great time with them, nice intelligent and sexy young men - each in his own way. No money exchanged hands. Of course I paid all expenses, and J also got 8 books as gifts. For A, the very visit to Bogota and via plane 2 boot was birthday gift enough.

PS - 4 all of u contemplating a similar self-drive trip - have no concerns. At no point did I feel unsafe or insecure. Most of the driving is slow, but who's in a hurry..... ?
I heartly recommend Jerico, Valle de Cocora and Therma Spa Santa Rosa.

 

M sorry I can't report on any of the sex venues; was too busy interviewing candidates... (-:

Who is Maup? How do I contact him?

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On 12/21/2024 at 8:06 PM, floridarob said:

Do you understand my confusion over the money people are throwing at guys in Thailand to do something like this?

why you worry so much about how people are spending , after all, their money

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10 hours ago, vinapu said:

why you worry so much about how people are spending , after all, their money

I, as well as others have said for 20 yrs on these forums and in person.... it throws expectations off..... whether you agree or not, it does and it affects others besides me.

So when we go to pay a guy 150-200 reis, they say...I get paid 400-500 usually by gringos..... 

What is the relationship between price and perceived value?
 
 
Put simply, you're pricing a product at what your customers will pay for it. It uses perceived value as a proxy for actual cost, which tends to be an efficient way to build a brand



 

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3 hours ago, floridarob said:

I, as well as others have said for 20 yrs on these forums and in person.... it throws expectations off..... whether you agree or not, it does and it affects others besides me.

So when we go to pay a guy 150-200 reis, they say...I get paid 400-500 usually by gringos..... 

What is the relationship between price and perceived value?
 
 
Put simply, you're pricing a product at what your customers will pay for it. It uses perceived value as a proxy for actual cost, which tends to be an efficient way to build a brand



 

when comes to boys and gringos , very little attention is placed to building brand as they know in most cases client is one go, gets fucked and goes to his country never to be seen again.

So they do what sellers on the market do, either charge the same price everybody because of sellers collusion or charge as much as they think client in front of stand will pay.

I get your point that some  customers are spoiling market by overpaying and other are doing the same by underpaying ( my friend who just returned from Pattaya saw the sign on one of girl  bars " Indian customers are not served" ) but I don't see why  one should lose sleep over that issue we don't have control of. When  you face such issue deal with it. If you know local price like 200 quote , it should be easy to bring 500 quoted by greedy / shrewd  guy to bring to reasonable level.

If he stands his ground it means he knows  his market better. 

Client who paid 500 may still feel he got better value than the same who paid 150 and three days later wonders why he overpaid 20

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