8 hours ago, vinapu said:

what about people who prefer to pay for better looks, after all Hunchback of Notre Dame is not everybody's dream boy I guess

Nor is the axe murderer, except for a few of us....

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One man's trash is another man's treasure.....

 

5 hours ago, a-447 said:

Looking at a beautiful masculine or cute face of your partner while having sex - and especially watching him cum- is priceless.

Some of us are willing to pay for that.

And some of us are willing to pay for business class.... priorities I guess. But it's a big world,  the BKK go-go scene, as commercial as it is, has lost me...the satisfaction to disappointment ratio is way out of whack for the money being asked for.  

I'm in Manila on my last leg of this 2 month trip and making plans for March Asia trip.... Thailand might not be in those plans for the first time ever for when I travel to this side of the world. If it is, would be because Thai Airways flight would be involved.

NYC hustler bars used to be a decent scene, then guys figured if some customers were into the priceless moments, why should they go for less?

You could have priceless moments that don't cost a Thai month's salary,  just looking in the wrong places or country 😏

When you add the cost of flights, hotel, offs, boy drinks, customer drink, boy tip, etc... might be easier to stay home and pay the high priced Asian escort in your country for a night.....🧐

 

4 hours ago, ChristianPFC said:

I gave up going to Bangkok Gogo bars for this reason.

I have some regulars from online from before Covid who come to my room for 1000. But recently I'm struggling to get boys to come to my room for 1000, might have to raise to 1500.

Street trade still going strong for 500, speaking Thai is useful here.

Where's the street trade nowadays in Bangkok,l?

What's the quality like?

 

2 hours ago, floridarob said:

I'm in Manila on my last leg of this 2 month trip and making plans for March Asia

I will be back in Manila in March 

Can you do some posts in info whilst your there in Manila 🇵🇭

Saunas ,gay bars , dance clubs etc🕺💃

2 hours ago, floridarob said:

When you add the cost of flights, hotel, offs, boy drinks, customer drink, boy tip, etc... might be easier to stay home and pay the high priced Asian escort in your country for a night.....🧐

Asian guys in Sydney asking for $100-150 which is around 2500-3500 baht 

22 minutes ago, Olddaddy said:

Where's the street trade nowadays in Bangkok,l?

What's the quality like?

 

Never mind the quality feel the width.

45 minutes ago, Olddaddy said:

Asian guys in Sydney asking for $100-150 which is around 2500-3500 baht 

Last time I could find anyone decent for that price!

26 minutes ago, khaolakguy said:

Never mind the quality feel the width.

Or the length......

7 hours ago, gayinpattaya said:

I don't pay. Those days are behind me. 

I hope you recall old saying that most expensive sex is free one

4 hours ago, floridarob said:

Nor is the axe murderer, except for a few of us....

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One man's trash is another man's treasure.....

....................................

When you add the cost of flights, hotel, offs, boy drinks, customer drink, boy tip, etc... might be easier to stay home and pay the high priced Asian escort in your country for a night.....🧐

 

true but that was not my point.

I wanted to say that some of us, including that old idiot vinapu may be willing to pay premium chiefly based on his look, while kind and quality of other carnal pleasures are firmly in the back seat. There's some pleasure in helping to undress guy whom so far we only admired from the scene at distance

.......................

too much economy, too little fun. 

cost of fligts, hotels, offs , drinks etc = vacation.

Pleasure of bringing home that fabulous Asian escort  may be diminished by sight of dishes to wash  in the sink, stack of invoices to be paid and notes on the fridge ' buy milk and pay insurance tomorrow"

9 minutes ago, vinapu said:

 

too much economy, too little fun. 

cost of fligts, hotels, offs , drinks etc = vacation.

 

Exactly, and you enter into holiday mode where “what happens in Bangkok, stays in Bangkok”, difficult to recreate at home.

10 minutes ago, Raposa said:

Exactly, and you enter into holiday mode where “what happens in Bangkok, stays in Bangkok”, difficult to recreate at home.

I noticed I enter into holiday mode as early as I leave my building and cross the street to the bus stop. While waiting for it I already feel I'm almost at destination even if my flights are loooooooooong.

12 minutes ago, Raposa said:

Exactly, and you enter into holiday mode where “what happens in Bangkok, stays in Bangkok”, difficult to recreate at home.

You've never been to my home in Mexico 😱

On 11/28/2024 at 10:36 PM, vinapu said:

Thank you  for warning us about bullshit at Toy Boys. I'm afraid that even if you refused to pay tip up front , that asshole mamasan would find way to reclaim that 500 from boy even if you subsequently tipped him less.

Again, that Chinese-speaking person is not mamasan. He’s just a normal waiter. Other staff in the bar know about his bullshit (I talked to them about this) but nobody would do anything because he’s probably valuable in dealing with Chinese customers. Some boys told me they gave him 100 or 2 if he helped them score a Chinese customer.

So just take my advice, ignore him and ask for another waiter. He won’t bother you anymore.

FYI. There is only one mamasan in that bar, that tall Thai guy.

6 minutes ago, Min said:

Again, that Chinese-speaking person is not mamasan. He’s just a normal waiter. Other staff in the bar know about his bullshit (I talked to them about this) but nobody would do anything because he’s probably valuable in dealing with Chinese customers. Some boys told me they gave him 100 or 2 if he helped them score a Chinese customer.

So just take my advice, ignore him and ask for another waiter. He won’t bother you anymore.

FYI. There is only one mamasan in that bar, that tall Thai guy.

It wasn't the Chinese speaking mamasan. It was a English speaking guy. 

9 hours ago, gayinpattaya said:

Just as the Chinese do! 
Get a VPN - Sign up to social media - done. 

90% of Chinese youths don't know and don't care about Western social medias - WeChat covers all needs: messaging, payments, including p2p, social networking, gaming, news... everything 

1.3 billions users monthly

34 minutes ago, Moses said:

90% of Chinese youths don't know and don't care about Western social medias - WeChat covers all needs: messaging, payments, including p2p, social networking, gaming, news... everything 

1.3 billions users monthly

Just replace “WeChat” with “Chinese social media ecosystem” and I agree 100% There are a few more apps like QQ that westerners have never heard about.

34 minutes ago, Raposa said:

like QQ

yeah, I forgot about QQ

1 hour ago, Moses said:

90% of Chinese youths don't know and don't care about Western social medias

it's always that 10% , or even less, who get things changed

38 minutes ago, vinapu said:

it's always that 10% , or even less, who get things changed

it depends... 11.06 29,8% of adult population

2 hours ago, Moses said:

90% of Chinese youths don't know and don't care about Western social medias - WeChat covers all needs: messaging, payments, including p2p, social networking, gaming, news... everything 

1.3 billions users monthly

I wasn't talking about youths. I was talking about the millions of Chinese that want to access the rest of the world. They use VPNs. It's a huge market, I have a friend works in the field. 

17 minutes ago, gayinpattaya said:

I wasn't talking about youths. I was talking about the millions of Chinese that want to access the rest of the world. They use VPNs. It's a huge market, I have a friend works in the field. 

Well, for Westerners "millions of Chinese" is significant number. But in real life even 15 millions of Chinese is still below 1% of global Chinese population.

12 hours ago, vinapu said:

true but that was not my point.

I wanted to say that some of us, including that old idiot vinapu may be willing to pay premium chiefly based on his look, while kind and quality of other carnal pleasures are firmly in the back seat. There's some pleasure in helping to undress guy whom so far we only admired from the scene at distance

.......................

too much economy, too little fun. 

cost of fligts, hotels, offs , drinks etc = vacation.

Pleasure of bringing home that fabulous Asian escort  may be diminished by sight of dishes to wash  in the sink, stack of invoices to be paid and notes on the fridge ' buy milk and pay insurance tomorrow"

Didn't know you liked sex in the back seat!

3 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

Didn't know you liked sex in the back seat!

but only on even days

There was a time when younger that great looks drove my decisions. One of few blessings of getting older is that has faded. Now make decision on what I predict the overall experience will turn out to be like. And the more I practice that selection process the better I’ve become at it. Results can be measured in greater satisfaction at reduced cost.

16 hours ago, Foolish said:

It wasn't the Chinese speaking mamasan. It was a English speaking guy. 

Hic, then I guess they all are in it. No wonder, the other waiter (the English-speaking one) couldn't care less when I talked about the cheating. I was cheated only once by the Chinese-speaking waiter my first time there. Later on, I visited the place quite often so probably they know better than trying to pull a fast one on me.