Guest voldemar Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 I am not a fan of bar scene in Pattaya. So,please, do not expect any bar reviews from me cause I visit the local bars only for shows. But something is definitely wrong. I stopped by WWB bar for show and, indeed they have one in their typical style. The performers are almost all new and it was quite comical to see a group of skinny "girls" (plus one veteran I think his name is Ae if I am right) performing a traditional manly "snake dance". I am pretty sure that they realize how comical it looks but either the budget limitations or perhaps other factors (e.g. what Michael aka Gay Thailand was talking about) force them to do that. By the way, there are a number of excellent shows around ( let me mention one in Venue in Jomtien complex) but overall the decline of bar scene is pretty obvious to this observer. Quote
Guest BeginnersMind Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 It might just be a matter of taste. I stopped in for the show in WWB a few night ago, and I was blown away by the quality of the show that night. Far better than anything I have seen there previously. Sexy boys, sexy outfits and some great dancing too. The Venue, on the other hand, has never been to my taste. Quote
Guest voldemar Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 On 12/31/2010 at 8:17 AM, BeginnersMind said: It might just be a matter of taste. Everything is a matter of taste. I can claim based on statistical evidence that my taste is more generic than yours. Cause Venue is full house every day and WWB half full at best not to mention the sheer size of audience. Quote
Guest BeginnersMind Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 On 12/31/2010 at 9:09 AM, voldemar said: I can claim based on statistical evidence that my taste is more generic than yours. Indeed, it might be. However, it is not always a good idea to go for the middle of the market. A canny operator will go after a niche and dominate it. I hope that is the plan at WWB. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 I only once saw the WWB show about 2 years ago. Half way through, a farang in front stood up, leaned back and knocked my drink all over me. He did not even bother to say he was sorry. So I had to leave to change my clothes. Not surprisingly, I don't remember much about the show. I also saw the Venue show only once, last April. Parts of it I liked; others I found very boring. However, I could see that it was popular. I admired the owners for trying something different and succeeding at it. Quote
Guest anonone Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 I was at both shows this month (Venue and Wild West Boys), as well as several others. Both shows were of good quality, in my opinion. Certainly different from each other, which is great. Variety makes things more interesting. BTW, both were pretty busy on the nights I attended.... Quote
Guest paulg Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 On 12/31/2010 at 9:09 AM, voldemar said: Everything is a matter of taste. I can claim based on statistical evidence that my taste is more generic than yours. Cause Venue is full house every day and WWB half full at best not to mention the sheer size of audience. generic. WTF is he talking about. The cost of the drinks only 120 baht and that the shows are very close together, are very appealing to the expats that live jomtien side. Quite a few have only one beer for the entire night. Generic or relative? Quote
Guest voldemar Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 Let me expand a little bit on the topic of the thread. Couple of days ago I went to a bar (it was not WWB) which I visit periodically for at least 10 years and where I literally left thousands of dollars. I ordered a drink and suddenly got an urgent telephone call. I called the captain and told him that I need to leave a bar for 20 minutes and will be back. Then I left. Somewhere 100 meters from the bar somebody tried to stop me. It turned out to be a waiter from that bar who told me that I need to pay for the drink. I repeated to him that I will return in 20 minutes. He then tried physically to stop me. Well, I am a big guy..Anyway, I was back in the bar 2o minutes later. I told the captain what I think about the incident, paid for the drink and left. They apologized but it does not matter. Remember that for them you are just fat farang ATM machine and beyond that they do not care. The only thing you can change in this formula is to lose some weight... In any case, this particular bar is not going to get a penny of my money. Ever. Quote
Guest nocolate Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 One wonders how much worse it will get.So depressing every year gay pattaya is getting worse not better. Quote
Guest voldemar Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Yesterday, I went for late supper in Pan Pan in Central. The place was full of Russians (Pattaya is de facto Russian city at the moment) but the food was O'K.. After that I decided to see a movie. Thron was available only in Porch (the place with very plush seats). I went for it and was the only viewer of the movie. You would hardly expect any trouble under these circumstances but lucky me... I was badly beaten by mosquitoes right in the movie theater. Now I expect whether I will catch dengue fever. My understanding is that incubation period is between 3 and 14 days.. In principle, I use repellant in Pattaya but I did not expect any trouble in Central movie theater... This shapes up as my most "fortunate" visit to Pattaya... Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 On 1/2/2011 at 12:21 PM, voldemar said: I called the captain and told him that I need to leave a bar for 20 minutes and will be back. Then I left. Somewhere 100 meters from the bar somebody tried to stop me. It turned out to be a waiter from that bar who told me that I need to pay for the drink. SInce you have been a regular in the bar, the waiter's action seems out of character. But since waiters tend to change quite regularly in many bars, I wonder if that particular waiter may not have been aware you were a regular. I am also not sure of the Pattaya bars general policy if a customer walks out without having paid his bill. I know in most hotels, the staff are 100% responsible in such cases, and have to pay the hotel out of their own pockets. I expect the bars operate in a roughly similar way. So if the waiter had not been party to the discussion, he may not have been aware you would return. Of course, the captain should have told him, but if he was busy for any reason and was unable to alert the waiter as you were walking out, I can at least understand why the waiter ran after you. I doubt if he could afford to lose the cash on your bar tab. Quote
Guest voldemar Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 On 1/3/2011 at 6:25 AM, fountainhall said: Of course, the captain should have told him, but if he was busy for any reason and was unable to alert the waiter as you were walking out, I can at least understand why the waiter ran after you. I doubt if he could afford to lose the cash on your bar tab. Well, there was one more customer in the bar and at least 10 boring waiters plus captain. It is quite normal for customers to walk out for the short period of time if they warn somebody in the bar. What was really ugly in this episode is that the waiter tried to use physical force to stop me. You can look for whatever explanations you wish but I am telling you Pattaya stinks. Quote
Guest voldemar Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Perhaps there is nothing new here but I noticed it for the first time. Tuk-tuks now are divided into two groups. The first group continue to move along regular routes while the other calls themselves taxis. (This is the same type of "vehicles": I am not talking about yellow or pink taxis). "Taxis" now charge quite outrageously. To give you the example: I asked how much would it cost for such a"taxi" to take me from the Beach Road side of Royal Garden Plaza to Jomtien beach and the answer was 300 baht. I am sure that everybody understands that I am "on the regular route" and I took a tuk-tuk for 10 baht. As I mentioned earlier Pattaya is not overcrowded at the moment (and never was during long weekend) and it is not difficult to take a regular tuk-tuk. This new category of"taxis" though create an artificial shortage and mostly responsible for empty vehicles of this class circulating empty, contributing to traffic jam and not performing any useful function. I partially understand the frustration of tuk-tuk drivers cause the price of 10 baht was introduced several years ago and did not take into account the rising cost of fuel. If they all move to "taxi" category we will have the situation similar to Phuket where moving around is quite expensive. Quote
Guest razzamataz Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 The Boyzboyzboyz show is also quite good. You can see the venue and then the wild west and then the boyz show and then take off a boy from boyz in the same night. Quote