Is the gay scene dying off ?

bkkmfj2648 · January 27, 2024

2 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

Let me hazard a guess: the Pattaya city council or whatever they call themselves is obsessed with making their city a family friendly destination, and they are ultra sensitive to any marketing effort that still makes it look like sin city. Bangkok is more relaxed because the majority of tourists it gets are 'morally upright' visitors anyway, whose primary interests are temples, malls, food, chatuchak, malls, food....

Thanks for your reply regarding this need to maintain this 'artificial' image of Pattaya/Jomtien.

But this does not explain why Chiang Mai, Phuket, and small Hat Yai are all allowed to have similar marketing strategies and methodologies for massage services as found in Bangkok.

Olddaddy · January 27, 2024

On 12/21/2023 at 7:54 PM, Department_Of_Agriculture said:

Sunee Plaza began to die when the police finally began to get serious about cracking down on underaged boys in the bars and those who used to hang around that area, generally. No, not all the bars in Sunee offered underaged boys and not everyone who went there was into that sort of thing but Sunee was a hotbed of that kind of thing. Once the police started cracking down in earnest, the gaps started showing very quickly. As the lights went out for good in some bars and as many "Sunee fans" stopped coming, the place lost momentum. Good riddance. Sunee was a shit hole and far cry from what Boyztown or Soi Twilight were.

It is sad that on another forum, which now largely consists of the owner speaking to himself, that period is still described as the good old days, with a little nudge and wink.

Lol... great post, I agree

A bit disturbing to see you have 6 down arrows though .

a lot of those (sick) "old" men back then that used to frequent that Sunee area wernt what I would classify as "gay"

they just pretended to be part of the gay community, of course nowadays most wouldn't accept them as such

I was a little shocked to see your last paragraph mentioning another forum owner and his alleged comments,I always thought he ( if it's the one you allege) came across to me as a man with integrity certainly not a person I liked but I always thought of him a person with high morals , I'm disappointed I was wrong , very sad to think ,just proves they hide their true nature , but yes that shocked me ,but it is what it is

Also if I recall one former bar owner in that Sunee area f Liverpool UK , is still serving his 15 year jail sentence back in the UK , probably would be in protection if he is still in there ,but I'm going back around 10 years so he may be out .

kokopelli3 · January 28, 2024

8 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

I was a little shocked to see your last paragraph mentioning another forum owner and his alleged comments,I always thought he ( if it's the one you allege) came across to me as a man with integrity certainly not a person I liked but I always thought of him a person with high morals , I'm disappointed I was wrong , very sad to think ,just proves they hide their true nature , but yes that shocked me ,but it is what it is

More bullshit! Do you believe everything you read, especially from an unreliable source?

Shonen · January 28, 2024

16 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

Lol... great post, I agree

A bit disturbing to see you have 6 down arrows though .

a lot of those (sick) "old" men back then that used to frequent that Sunee area wernt what I would classify as "gay"

they just pretended to be part of the gay community, of course nowadays most wouldn't accept them as such

I was a little shocked to see your last paragraph mentioning another forum owner and his alleged comments,I always thought he ( if it's the one you allege) came across to me as a man with integrity certainly not a person I liked but I always thought of him a person with high morals , I'm disappointed I was wrong , very sad to think ,just proves they hide their true nature , but yes that shocked me ,but it is what it is

Also if I recall one former bar owner in that Sunee area f Liverpool UK , is still serving his 15 year jail sentence back in the UK , probably would be in protection if he is still in there ,but I'm going back around 10 years so he may be out .

Yeah, a lot of those sick old men probably weren’t gay. They just were straight men who enjoyed bottoming and giving blow jobs.

Olddaddy · January 28, 2024

3 hours ago, Shonen said:

Yeah, a lot of those sick old men probably weren’t gay. They just were straight men who enjoyed bottoming and giving blow jobs.

Are you referring to the post I'm replying to ?

I referring to the pedophiles the post was mentioning ,I doubt they are accepted by the gay community anywhere in the world 🌎

vinapu · January 29, 2024

On 1/27/2024 at 6:29 PM, reader said:

Granted many of those came that far down the soi were looking for Dream Boy ...The offs were legendary in numbers and you rarely heard a complaint about service.

Unfortunately I need very strongly to disagree with the last line even if I agree with your post . My worst ever off in 30 odd trips was from Dreamboys ( in short he refused to undress and get if the phone for good 1/2 hr in the room before I kicked him out) and he still demanded full tip even calling mamasan to intervene.

Ever since ( Nov 2013 I think) when comes to offing guys I,m biggest homphobe of them all - he was fem gay

vinapu · January 29, 2024

On 1/27/2024 at 7:22 PM, macaroni21 said:

Bangkok is more relaxed because the majority of tourists it gets are 'morally upright' visitors anyway, whose primary interests are temples, malls, food, chatuchak, malls, food....

And girls

BangkokDreamer · 2025-02-20T01:30:59Z

On 1/27/2024 at 3:43 AM, bkkmfj2648 said:

I comment about the massage scene in Pattaya (Jomtien).

As per the below Supertown Jomtien Complex webpage there are 10 massage shops noted by said web site administrator. Of which 9 are gay - where the Thai Blind Massage I do not know if they are gay even though they reside within the walls of the complex.

I lament about the Jomtien massage scene because it is so disorganized when compared to the super sophisticated way that the Bangkok massage places market their masseurs. There is practically ZERO marketing for the Jomtien masseurs and near ZERO use of marketing technologies (i.e., Line, Twitter, webpages, etc.) In Bangkok, there are Line sites for most of the massage shops with pictures of the masseurs with information about their preferences. Then there is sometimes a booking system via Line or Twitter to obtain time with your favorite masseur.

Bangkok has a couple of EXCELLENT chat and review systems that are enabled in Line. I joined 3 of them via Twitter, at:

B_u_X: Massage Addicted - Twitter ID = @Massageaddictt1 - if you agree with his terms of engagement you can become a member for a small fee of 300 baht per year. Once you pay to his PromptPay, he will allow you to enter into his private Line Group where you will have access to the Chat, monthly .pdf masseur reviews, OpenChat, and promotional discounts and coupons. Note that everything is in Thai - but I just use Google Translate and I do quite well communicating. I find the monthly .pdf reviews VERY interesting (to translate these .pdf documents you need to use the Google Translate image translate function for each single page - cumbersome but FULL of very useful information - like how did the sex and/or happy ending go and the related rating of the masseur given by the designated rater). His Line group (B_u_X Massage Addicted By Bung) has 2,459 members and the chat is VERY active and busy. see sample screen shot below.

Massage Insider - Twitter ID = @massageinside3 - if you agree with his terms of engagement you can become a member for a small fee of 300 baht per year. Once you pay to his Thai bank account, he will allow you to enter into his private Line Group where you will have access to the Chat, monthly (and sometimes weekly) masseur reviews (note that the reviews are written in Line in the Notes section in Thai - but you just click on the translate button in Line and you instantly see everything in English), OpenChat, and promotional discounts and coupons. Note that everything is in Thai - but I just use Google Translate and I do quite well communicating. His Line group (M Community) has 2,690 members and the chat is VERY active and busy. see sample screen shot below.

Planet Worldz Massage - Twitter ID = @PlanetWorldX - his group is more expensive @500 baht for 1 year. I have not yet joined - but I am very tempted as I like what his offering is:

Massage reviews in Line with the possibility of xxx photos from the actual massage that was reviewed,

Weekly updates in Line and also on Twitter,

Twitter access to thrilling clips with an emphasis on the xxx parts,

Line group chat access.

I note that the emphasis on the above 3 groups are primarily focused on Bangkok, but with some emphasis on Chiang Mai, Phuket, Hat Yai, and even Japan (occasionally). There was ZERO focus on Pattaya.

So, my question to all of you is - why is Pattaya SO difficult and disorganized for massages ?

I asked some of my Thai Jomtien based massage friends and they say that the local police in Jomtien/Pattaya have a FIRM control over them and that is why you don't see any of them having personal line profiles, booking systems, massage shop web pages, etc.

Is this true?

If so, why would the local police want to stranglehold the local massage industry in Pattaya/Jomtien when it has the potential to be vibrant like in Chiang Mai, Phuket, or even small Hat Yai - which has 3 massage shops down in the conservative southern part of Thailand??

Perplexed in Jomtien......