forky123 Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 10:24 AM, Latbear4blk said: It looks like the hypocrites are the ones condemning Hamas but supporting the genocidal Israeli attacks. Expand Which part of "I'm against both wars" was difficult for you? Mavica, alvnv and unicorn 3 Quote
EmmetK Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 10:24 AM, Latbear4blk said: It looks like the hypocrites are the ones condemning Hamas but supporting the genocidal Israeli attacks. Expand The only genocide in the Middle East is that being committed by the Hamas terrorists. Israel has sent millions of texts and phone calls, dropped millions of pamphlets and flyers from the air in advance warning civilians to evacuate prior to the IDF entering. Hamas has underground bunkers, tunnels, and command centers beneath hospitals and schools. Hamas doesn't care about the lives of their own civilians. They are willing to use their own civilians as human shields. They butcher innocent Israelis. They rape and torture women and children. Good vs. evil was never more evident. This is the battle not only between Israel and the Hamas Nazis, but between the civilized world and barbarians. Israel will not leave Gaza before every inch of those tunnels and and terrorist command centers has been flooded and destroyed. Israel will not leave Gaza until Hamas has been eradicated. That is not genocide. It is called survival. unicorn, stevenkesslar, Marc in Calif and 2 others 2 3 Quote
Members Latbear4blk Posted November 3, 2023 Members Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 10:51 AM, forky123 said: Which part of "I'm against both wars" was difficult for you? Expand So what part of my post is referring to you? Quote
Members Latbear4blk Posted November 3, 2023 Members Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 11:52 AM, EmmetK said: The only genocide in the Middle East is that being committed by the Hamas terrorists. Israel has sent millions of texts and phone calls, dropped millions of pamphlets and flyers from the air in advance warning civilians to evacuate prior to the IDF entering. Hamas has underground bunkers, tunnels, and command centers beneath hospitals and schools. Hamas doesn't care about the lives of their own civilians. They are willing to use their own civilians as human shields. They butcher innocent Israelis. They rape and torture women and children. Good vs. evil was never more evident. This is the battle not only between Israel and the Hamas Nazis, but between the civilized world and barbarians. Israel will not leave Gaza before every inch of those tunnels and and terrorist command centers has been flooded and destroyed. Israel will not leave Gaza until Hamas has been eradicated. That is not genocide. It is called survival. Expand This is the perfect example of hypocrisy. Probably rooted in deep racism that dehumanize People of Color lives. Mavica, EmmetK, unicorn and 3 others 2 1 3 Quote
EmmetK Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 12:50 PM, Latbear4blk said: Probably rooted in deep racism that dehumanize People of Color lives. Expand Racism, racism, racism... YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN. You and your fellow Jew-haters, who shroud your anti-Semitism with the pathetic excuse of our battle is with Zionists not Jews, clearly need to be schooled. Israel has the most heterogenous population in the area. Its Arab citizens flourish. They own businesses, are members of the civil service, serve in the army, and on the Supreme Court. And where are all of the Tunisian Jews? The Algerian Jews? The Iraqi Jews? etc.. They were driven out by the Jew hating citizens of their countries which they resided for centuries. So these countries have basically become Judenfrei. So like 99% of what u say, your racism claims make no sense. The only racism is the Arab racism that drove out the Jews with pogroms. And while I am on a roll, Israel is a country made up of over 60% non-whites. This is not from me, but by Ritchie Torres, Bronx Congressman who is Black, Latino, and gay. Don't get me wrong. Racism exists. And if you want to see one of the prime examples of this, just look into the nearest mirror. vinapu, Marc in Calif, Kostik and 1 other 1 3 Quote
forky123 Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 12:49 PM, Latbear4blk said: So what part of my post is referring to you? Expand You literally quoted me. unicorn and Latbear4blk 1 1 Quote
Kostik Posted November 3, 2023 Author Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/2/2023 at 5:02 PM, reader said: From Amnesty International Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine was accompanied by escalating repression against dissent within Russia. Peaceful anti-war protests were dispersed, often forcibly, and those speaking out against the war faced prosecution. New legislation was introduced restricting protests and the activities of NGOs and civil society activists. Prosecutions of Jehovah’s Witnesses continued. Torture and other ill-treatment remained endemic in places of detention. Abductions and enforced disappearances continued to be reported in Chechnya. Fair trial standards were repeatedly violated. Conscientious objectors were refused alternative civilian service. New legislation further stigmatized and discriminated against LGBTI people. Expand Yes, yes! Putin is also to blame for the fact that the United States has the largest number of political prisoners in the world. Tell us that your propaganda is lying about this. Latbear4blk, alvnv and unicorn 1 1 1 Quote
reader Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 If you reported the actual number of Russian prisoners, you’d end up one yourself. 😀 vinapu, alvnv, Marc in Calif and 1 other 2 2 Quote
Kostik Posted November 3, 2023 Author Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 2:58 PM, reader said: If you reported the actual number of Russian prisoners, you’d end up one yourself. 😀 Expand What else did your propaganda tell you? 🤣 alvnv 1 Quote
vinapu Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 7:30 AM, forky123 said: I'm against both wars but Hamas deliberately provoked the one in Gaza. Expand that is unfortunately very sad truth. They started war which is unwinnable for them which is logical and strategic crime itself , fully knowing response will be harsh and blood soaked on their own people. unicorn, alvnv and Latbear4blk 2 1 Quote
vinapu Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 7:02 AM, Moses said: But now I will tell you: for 30 times longer period, on territory 1000 times bigger, there are 7 times less causalities within Ukrainian kids, than in Gaza. In Ukraine are less than 550 causalities within children for almost 2 years on territory more than 50000 sq.km. Israel already kill more than 3400 kids, less than in 3 weeks, on territory 50 sq.km. Expand While you are correct we better don't go into match who killed more children . Sounds undigestible for lack of better word. alvnv and Latbear4blk 2 Quote
vinapu Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 7:38 AM, Moses said: ..... propaganda nonstop moaned about schools, kindergartens and hospitals, while placed there artillery. Expand unfortunately that is how all wars are fought , it's why war is atrocious and those who started it should be universally condemned and perhaps get a taste of own medicine to speed peace process in peoples minds Latbear4blk, alvnv and lookin 3 Quote
vinapu Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 10:24 AM, Latbear4blk said: It looks like the hypocrites are the ones condemning Hamas but supporting the genocidal Israeli attacks. Expand yes , it looks we are very well past ' eye for an eye ' point alvnv and Latbear4blk 2 Quote
vinapu Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 11:52 AM, EmmetK said: Israel will not leave Gaza before every inch of those tunnels and and terrorist command centers has been flooded Expand with what ? blood of 2 millions? Marc in Calif and Latbear4blk 1 1 Quote
Kostik Posted November 3, 2023 Author Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 4:26 PM, vinapu said: unfortunately that is how all wars are fought , it's why war is atrocious and those who started it should be universally condemned and perhaps get a taste of own medicine to speed peace process in peoples minds Expand I completely agree. Unfortunately this is not possible now unicorn, Latbear4blk and alvnv 1 2 Quote
vinapu Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 11:52 AM, EmmetK said: Israel will not leave Gaza until Hamas has been eradicated. Expand of all nations, Israel is first to avoid using underscored word as they are the nation who got most heinous taste of it. Advice of not starting war you can't win doesn't only apply to Hamas, to Israel as well , however noble their justification may be. Crime can't be eliminated by removing criminals, reason for it must be removed. To get away from Middle East, is anybody of sound mind expecting war on drugs to be won without removing market for it ?. Quote
vinapu Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 1:19 PM, EmmetK said: You and your fellow Jew-haters, who shroud your anti-Semitism with the pathetic excuse of our battle is with Zionists not Jews, clearly need to be schooled. Israel has the most heterogenous population in the area. Its Arab citizens flourish. They own businesses, are members of the civil service, serve in the army, and on the Supreme Court. Expand Criticizing Israel or thing Israeli is not anti-Semitism. If that was a case we would have anti-semite Jew right here in the forum who once described El-Al airlines very uncharitably. Are you sure Arabs are serving in the IDF ? I'm pretty sure they are exempt. Honest question , not trying to inflame things Latbear4blk, EmmetK and Marc in Calif 2 1 Quote
vinapu Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 2:58 PM, reader said: If you reported the actual number of Russian prisoners, you’d end up one yourself. 😀 Expand Kostik may be so brave because he is outside of reach of Russian 'justice' system and too small fry to waste polonium on him Kostik, alvnv and unicorn 1 2 Quote
vinapu Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 4:38 PM, Kostik said: I completely agree. Unfortunately this is not possible now Expand silencing cannons is always possible. Only thing needed is co-operation of biggest bullies. Those who recall Suez crisis in 1956 know what I mean Quote
Kostik Posted November 3, 2023 Author Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/2/2023 at 4:24 PM, EmmetK said: The UN has a long history of anti-Israel and anti-Jewish bias. Expand The video shows Jerusalem a few days earlier. It seems that not only UN is anti-Jewish document_533.mp4Fetching info... vinapu 1 Quote
vinapu Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 no wonder in such situation tempers are short. Quote
forky123 Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 4:50 PM, vinapu said: Kostik may be so brave because he is outside of reach of Russian 'justice' system and too small fry to waste polonium on him Expand I thought defenestration was the meurtre du jour. Quote
vinapu Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 5:30 PM, forky123 said: I thought defenestration was the meurtre du jour. Expand hopefully Kostik lives on ground floor Mavica, unicorn and Kostik 3 Quote
Marc in Calif Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/2/2023 at 4:24 PM, EmmetK said: The UN has a long history of anti-Israel and anti-Jewish bias. Expand The UN helped to create the State of Israel because it supported both Jews and, specifically, Zionism. But the UN did not plan for or agree to Israel's occupation of -- and settlements in -- the designated Palestinian regions of the state. As you well know, UN resolutions 242 (1967), 338 (1973), 446 (1979), 452 (1979), 465 (1980), 476 (1980), 478 (1980), 1397 (2002), 1515 (2003), and 1850 (2008) have condemned: Acquisition of territory by force Permanent settlements in that territory Altering the demographic composition, character, and status of the Palestinian Territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, including, inter alia, the construction and expansion of settlements, transfer of Israeli settlers, confiscation of land, demolition of homes and displacement of Palestinian civilians, in violation of international humanitarian law and relevant resolutions This, I repeat, not anti-Israel and anti-Jewish bias. It's opposition and condemnation of illegal acts taken by the State of Israel since 1967. I am Jewish. I support the State of Israel's right to exist. I contributed money to help establish the State of Israel. But I am NOT anti-Israel and anti-Jewish. I challenge you to prove that I am. alvnv, Latbear4blk, stevenkesslar and 2 others 2 2 1 Quote
Moses Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 4:22 PM, vinapu said: While you are correct we better don't go into match who killed more children . Sounds undigestible for lack of better word. Expand It is easy to find how precise are Russians. For example today on Reuters: "Russia launched a massive drone attack early on Friday, hitting critical infrastructure in the west and south of Ukraine... the biggest drone attack in weeks to target Kharkiv in the northeast, Odesa and Kherson in the south and the region of Lviv on Ukraine's border with Poland in the west." 40+ heavy drones, dozen of X-59 missiles attacked Kharkiv 1 158 485 inhabitants Odesa 1 010 537 inhabitants Kherson 279 131 inhabitants Lviv 717 273 inhabitants Quess how much casualties... zero. But Quote The air force said the latest drones were launched in several waves and flew to different regions in small groups. Air alerts in some regions lasted for several hours during the night. Maksym Kozytskiy, Lviv's governor, said an infrastructure facility had been hit five times during the attacks on his region, but did not elaborate on the damage. He reported no casualties. In the nearby region of Ivano-Frankivsk a military facility was hit, governor Svitlana Onishchuk said. Oleh Kiper, Odesa's regional governor, reported a strike on an infrastructure facility in the southern region. Expand In total Ukraine reported "eight people, including two children, required medical help due to acute stress" Stress. You may compare to massacre which is done by Israel. Mavica and Kostik 1 1 Quote