ChristianPFC

I would not spend much thought on it. In all my years of going to gogo bars, with a ratio of looking to buying of about 10 to 1, I was in a similar situation only once. That was in Eros about 4 years ago. A boy I had before and wanted again was sitting with a customer, so I asked staff if the customers intends to off the boy. The answer was no, so I waited and got the boy soon after. Else I would have gone somewhere else. Another occasion, a few months ago in Kawaii, a boy I was keen on (from chatting online) and would have offed was sitting with a customer, and it looked like they would spend more time, so I did not interfere. Anyway, I spend most of my time in Thailand, so I can let others, who most like are tourists, get the boy first and I can get him later (and I did!). As for befriending mamasan, about 5 years ago I befriended a mamasan at Classic Boys Bangkok, or at least I thought so. But after chatting with him several times, and buying him beers several times, it became clear to me that he is not interested in friendship, but in the beer I buy him. As for having regulars, I would quickly get to doing this business directly in order to save time and money. (For me, going to a bar knowing which boy I would take home is a waste of time and money. Others might have different attitudes.)

But they do so with their own money (or on credit or mortgage). Whereas the money boys want us to buy them things. And my opinion is that a third-world prostitute does not need (but might want) a first-world trophy phone (and as my current phone is a Samsung for 10 kTHB, I'm not preaching water and drinking wine; however in the past it was even easier when I could pull out my 8 kTHB i-mobile or 6 kTHB Asus Zenphone and show them: look, that's my phone, I won't buy you a (whatever).)

Good work. Subject doesn't apply to me, as I have a room in Bangkok and elsewhere stay in hotels prices 300-700 THB per night. I take similar notes for hotels in the provinces. In some places, I find a good hotel at first try, others I have to shop around and take a different hotel every time I stay in that town. Safe is not important to me. My pet peeve is lack of space to put stuff on in bathroom. I prefer bathroom sink in a tiled table. In some hotels, there is nowhere to put my stuff. The sink itself is curved and will be wet. Tray under mirror often curved. Lid of water reservoir for toilet curved, and if something slides it might end in the toilet! Joiner fee is a scam they run in touristy places. In the provinces, I even brought two boys to stay overnight in a double bed room without problems.

It's not clear where the boy you are talking about comes from (which country). That would be rude by my standards, i.e. I wouldn't treat anyone like that (unless agreed upon upfront). As for the mobile phone. I don't have the newest / most expensive Samsung or iPhone as I can't justify the expense for myself, and even less for buying one for someone else. My current phone cost 10k THB. In principle I would spend the same on a phone as a gift for a boy, but i have yet to meet the boy who brought me so much happiness and who I consider deserves such a gift. It's a vicious circle! Boys ask for a phone after sleeping with me once, some even before we meet. For that reason, I delay meeting them again, or don't meet them at all, so they can't bring me that much happiness to warrant that expense. Recent case was the boy in Sakaew. We had a good time in bed and I would meet him again as soon as possible. But he asked for a mobile phone (Samsung J6 for 7990 THB). For that reason, he went down in the list. Else, I would have gone to meet him again two or three weeks after, and if he had asked me after third meeting, I would probably have bought him the phone.

If he shows up at all. I think their way of thinking is rather take the advance (let's say 200 THB sent by online banking), and do not show up, and block the customer on online dating/facebook/Line/phone number.

Thanks DivineMadman for all his work and posting. If massage was my thing, I would visit all of them and contribute, but it's not (currently about one massage per month). Varying massage skills have been brought up. There was one guy I liked in (forgot the name, long closed, underneath BTS Sala Daeng on Eastern side). His massage was poor, but he was my type. And in the course of one year of working there, his massage skills did not improve. Occasionally friends who do not work in massage give me massage, and usually good.

Did you pay anything upfront? I chatted with several money boys from further away, who I have not met before, who asked for an partial advance payment to cover travel expenses. I don't want to be the one to find out that that's a scam, and never did.

Thanks all for your replies, especially sglad. I said "most Thais" and I correct this to "most Thais I try to get into bed". I have met honest, intelligent, hard working Thais, but they are the minority. There are scientifc studies [citation needed] that about half of a person's success in education is determined by genes, and about half is determined by social influences. Why do Thai trains not run on time? There is no traffic jam, everything can be planned to the minute, for days, weeks months in advance, but why are most trains late? When I travel out of tourist areas, I am sometimes approached by children, who out of curiosity want to talk with me. Let's assume they study English at school [is it compulsory? how many hours per week?], but their level varies considerably. Most of them just bring out "hello", "good morning teacher" regardless of time of day, and I have been greeted "fuck you" a few times (not literally, not as an insult, they were just proud to use the one English sentence they know). But a few would start and could hold a conversation over several correct sentences. Blame it on the educational system or the majority of the population not being talented for foreign languages (that would be the genetic influence mentioned above). Look what people of all ages on public transport are doing on their mobile phones, mostly playing games. A stage that I overcome around age 15. I have met plenty who are unwilling to learn useful things, like using the bus or the MRT. Whatever you call it when a 20 year old from upcountry, who has been in Bangkok for 2 months, does not know how to and does not want to use the bus, I call it STUPID. I remain by my statement, re-worded: For most Thais I try to get into bed, mental development stopped between age 12 and 15, but their body continues to age. I wish their body stopped ageing at 20 and their brain developed further. That's my opinion, based on five years of traveling and dating in Thailand. But I'm open for other explanations of the behavior/conditions I observed. My slight Asperger Autism [self-diagnosed and confirmed by friends] might explain that I see things different from most forum members and in a way that is not politically correct. Or I have been unlucky and met the wrong boys (5 years long), but for the trains there is a website that shows delays, and even trains I'm not on are delayed, so it's not me.

Absolutely. Or as I put it in less favorable way: Most Thais' mental development stops between age 12 and 15, but their physical development does not stop (meaning, their body gets older). I wish it was the other way round: their physical development stops at age 20, and their mental development continues.

Talking of filters, I don't use any. Some people do not have stats (age, weight, height would be important for me), or obviously wrong stats, and anyway it's entertaining to see who is around, even if not my specs. The video apps on hornet are indeed stupid. They advertise for facebook! I think mankind is split in: those who are already on facebook, those who do not want to be on facebook.

I do not tip waiters or mamasan. I only tip staff I have sexual contact with: boys who sit with me 100, boys I off 1000.

My experience is rather the opposite. Two recent cases: Boy from Nakon Sawan is in Bangkok and lives 3 km away from. He wants to meet, but after 2 months in Bangkok doesn't know how to get around. I send him detailed instructions (it's a straight ride by bus): "I don't know. Can yo come here?" Another one lives on the purple line MRT, but has never taken MRT! He wants to meet, but "I don't know. Can you come here and pick me up?" NO I WONT! That level of stupdity/idiocy/unwillingness to learn is huge turn-off for me. After reading such bullshit, my interest in that boy is gone for the day (but depending on boy and circumstances, I will try another day and if I can combine it with other activities, or are horny, might go to pick him up).

Automatic translation sometimes gives good results, in other occasions is useless. You have to consider that it works poorly for slang, and that's what most posts on facebook or online dating are. But for clear pronunciation / correct writing and standard language, results are good. A recent example: I was in Central Plaza Westgate and got a message from a Thai who used online translation: Can you guess what it means? To me it's immediately obvious, as the Thai word for "class" (in a school or university) and "level/storey" (in a bulding) is the same. So he was asking me to come to 3rd floor toilet.

Why is that? I have the idea that airspace at the altitude of commercial passenger flights is free worldwide. For China, there is just geographically no reason to fly over, unless you want to fly into China.

I adjust my frequency of visits to prices. In Bangkok, I go only to one bar, and only a few times per year, when friends from abroad are in town. Let's make that 4 bar visits per year. In Pattaya, I visit 3 or 4 bars per night, sometimes two nights in a row, once per month. In both Bangkok and Pattaya there are bars that I don't visit at all because their business model does not fit my preferences.

Gayromeo has lost considerable and is only worth considering in Bangkok and Pattaya (I haven't been to Phuket or Chiang Mai for a while, so I don't know how active it's there). When I go to the provinces, I first open hornet. But that's only because with a free account I can see a limited number of profiles, whereas with blued you can go around the world if you have time. The video advertising on hornet is really annoying. If I had to choose one of the three, it would be blued. A friend reports good results with grindr, some day I will open an account.

For X-Boys Pattaya I have recent experience that you can have a boy sitting with you and get away without buying a drink. That's not my normal mode of operation, but here how it came: I'm not a fan of X-Boys Pattaya and haven't been for over a year. But I spotted a cute boy Ball online, and he works in X-Boys, and after over a year it's time to re-assess the bar and their show. So I went shortly before show to see the boys on rotation first, and then the show after. Before show started, lights went off and all boys left stage, and Ball came to sit with me uninvited (important; if I invite a boy I always buy him a drink). I think three staff asked me if I would buy him a drink, a firm "no" and they left me in peace and the boy sitting on my side. As there were only few other customers, I didn't feel he loses on opportunity for an off, and tipped him 100 when I left. The audition was positive, and some day I might meet him before or after work. I freely admit I'm a cheapskate. Under certain circumstances I can justify paying 280 THB for drink for me, but I cannot justify paying 300 THB for a boy drink. And if staff had told me the boy cannot sit with me unless I buy him a drink, I would have replied "then he will have to sit somewhere else", and taken all communication with the boy online. If a boy sits with me uninvited, and he is not my type, then no drink and no tip. X-Boys Bangkok, I haven't been for years (?) and cannot tell. But I clearly remember I offed a boy from Classic Boys about 2012 without even entering the bar, just asking at door if he is in, pay off fee, and go (after boy dressing). And similar elsewhere, but with entering the bar and drinking, call the boy over, ask him "do you want to go with me?" (no details about activities or money) and send him back to dress.

I like it! On gayromeo I know that someone has blocked me, which I find more honest than Line or hornet or facebook with "content not available" or other similar messages. Worst is hornet, where the chat is gone.

I had a look at craigslist personals when it was running, but nothing caught my interested. I'm happy with gay online dating (blued, hornet, gayromeo), and gay groups on facebook (in Thai language) and the occasional check on gboysiam (in Thai language).

I have been living here on prepaid for 6 years. I spend about 8 months per year in Thailand, and with a contract I would not know if I loose minutes or data during the time I'm out of Thailand. Anyway, prepaid is without paperwork, which I favor.

I voted "no" "too dangerous" "too far". "Too far" is not a valid argument, as from Germany distance to Brasil is similar as to Thailand. In principle I'm interested in Brasil, however: I speak Thai already and know my way around here (SEAsia), safety is a big issue for me (I want to be able to walk anywhere anytime without safety issues), and my impression is that Brasilians are more hunky and more hairy (and I don't want someone who shaves, or use depilatory cream, I wanted natural absence of hair where it doesn't belong) than SEAsians. And anyway, my time is completely consumed between Thailand, Germany, Taiwan and Myanmar. There is no chance of me going to Brasil anytime soon. Another point is: have those who have been to Brasil paid for sexual services or was it free? Nowadays, most of my encounters here (SEAsia) are free, whereas in Brasil I would probably have to start by paying to get an impression what's available and what's possible.

No. Anyway, it depends on what you want to learn. My main interest is in reading, so I can understand what's written. Whereas most students, and subsequently most courses, focus on speaking and listening. I'm interested in grammar and history of a language, which I get from internet and books, but not from classes. And finally, there is this wonderful tool of the International Phonetic Alphabet, which I have never seen used in class (neither at school nor at adult education). Once you have a certain level, language exchange is something to look into. The experience in Taipei (Chinese-German) was positive. In Thailand I haven't tried it yet as I travel a lot and cannot plan more than a day in advance. The question is rather to study in class or individual courses. Both Thai (in 2011) and Chinese (in 2018) I started in class, but found large parts a waste of time, nay detrimental (when you talk with your classmates in the target language). I would say, the higher cost of individual courses is offset by having the full attention of your teacher and not being subjected to wrongly pronounced target language. Pronunciation is actually the only part where I need a native speaker. And it took me a bit to get my teacher in Taiwan to understand not to stop correcting my pronunciation when she understands what I'm saying, but when it is correctly pronounced. Everything else I can study on my own, with books or internet.

"Short time" translates as ชั่วคราว chûa kraao (short time, temporary), whereas what we call "long time" is ค้างคืน káang keun, literally "over night".

Your boyfriend loves beach or the beach in Pattaya/Jomtien? I'm not a beach person, but even I can say that the beach in Pattaya/Jomtien is not the finest Thailand has to offer. And if I had a boyfriend, I wouldn't go to Pattaya with him (because, apart from the gogo bars and a few tourist attractions, I don't like Pattaya).

Extension of validity varies greatly from one provider to the other. Maximum validity for AIS is 365 days. Registering your number does not help. I did so in 2012 (?) hoping that would keep the number to my name, but the time I came to Thailand for holiday, it was beyond validity and I couldn't get the number back. Between AIS, you can transfer validity or balance for a small fee. @ChristianPFC is using these machines (I never have) and can advise more These machines do indeed come with or without service fee, as high as 5 THB for 100 THB top-op, i.e. you have to insert 105 THB. There is an interesting problem related to expiration of SIM-cards. I have saved someone's number, his validity expires, the number is assigned to a new SIM-card and bought by a new person. The network detects activity, and LINE adds this person. I message him/her, hoping to find a long-lost friend. Usually it's pretty quick to figure out it's not the person I'm looking for, but once I ended up with a Thai woman who insisted she loves me and wanted to marry me, and when I told her that's impossible because I'm gay, she wanted to borrow 20,000 THB.