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Coming to a message board for me is like being in a friendly town, sitting on the porch of a store listening to the group of friends hold a chat. Some talk about the day they had, some of the sex they had or wish to have, but the favorite of the group is the guy that can spin a yarn of captivation and drama. Did it happen? Maybe. Is it all true? Who's to say. One thing for sure, we enjoy his stories.

I had a few of the books and the information is provided is still useful for new visitors.

Keep in mind that many vacationers are hopping from city to city to jam in as much fun and memories that they can. They are not just coming to Pattaya and putting down roots. They may only be in the city for a few days before heading to Bangkok or some such place. If Sunee is not drawing customers, it's their own fault for not trying to get the attention of new visitors. The area needs another Howard hotel to bring people to the area. When towards left it slowed down a lot of their first-time visitors to the area. This is just my opinion.

Wonder if they will keep their name or use a new one like the other bars that opened new locations?

I've often wondered why gay establishments in Thailand don't promote themselves much. They will promote a new opening or a birthday but planes are landing every day with new first time visitors who know nothing about the gay scene and don't know where to go to have fun. I remember when I landed in Puerto Rico. I checked into a gay hotel. It was a dump and I had to stand in line with other guests that wanted a refund and to check out. The hotel told us all that we had committed to a 3-night stay and after night 3 we checked out! How did we end up staying at that dump? Promotion! They posted in the gay newspapers and were promoting themselves in the gay forums and on America Online. Every day, on the beach in Puerto Rico, sexy and hot men and women would hand out fliers for gay bars and restaurants as well as tours and taxi services. In the hotel rooms, bars had reference cards and discount coupons. I can't remember how often we passed other bars to head to a bar that promoted themselves to us. As it turned out the bars were often holes in the wall, but they drew a crowd from their flyers. In Thailand, the 2 bars with name recognition are Jupiter and Moonlight. It is not happening by luck, they are promoting their bars and people are interested in finding them for a visit. I was reading the Gray Lady (Sawatdee) and read that a gay bar in a hard to find area of Pattaya on a dark street quietly blew out the candle and bowed out. Why don't the owners or managers go out fighting? Is it possible to turn a handicap into an asset? Is there a way to promote to visitors that there is a gay area away from the lights, away from the straight couples gawking and giggling? A place where underwear is the standard dress attire? Is there a way to promote Sunee as the place for secrets and privacy? A place where Kissing and Telling is not allowed? I think it is a damn shame that a bar whose name I can't remember, closed up without me ever giving it a look or a try. It just kept quiet until it faded away... If I was in the bar business and I knew my bar was in its final days, I think I would go out either fighting or with a bang! I would try Snuggle Nights. Maybe a game night of musical chairs but with guys sitting on the laps of customers. Maybe I would try Gay Playboy Bunny Night and tell the guys to flirt their asses off with the customers and make them all feel like they are old sex friends! If my bar was an open/outside bar, I would do what I could get away with. Maybe I would have my staff dress in traditional period clothing much like they do in the formal photographs. I'd tell my staff that their friends can drink at 1/2 price or at a reduced rate and see if a full bar will attract guys with deeper pockets. I would even try bringing back the LeCafe Royale tight short shorts. If you are going to close your doors, why not try something new before the last night? Why not invite visitors to find your establishment? But I am just a customer looking for a fun place to spend my money and I've never owned a bar. I just spend my money on them.

Try this, using your cell phone or a computer. https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/465?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en If the government gets your cell phone they will know where you have been, what you did on your phone, who you chatted with and on and on. The only one not knowing what they can get in us is us..

I still laugh about the 2nd floor bar in patpong that had the change glued to the tray. I wish I had a heat gun and a flathead screwdriver haha

Nobody knows for sure where technology will take us. Who could have predicted Uber? Who could have predicted Digital driver's licenses? And who could have predicted Grinder and jacked? What technology will be produced and used in the entertainment and bar industries that is the million dollar question… Maybe you will use an app to hire a guy and he will be delivered to you in a self-driving van that doubles as a short time room that will drive around for 1 hour before taking you back to the designated drop-off spot.

There are already bars and massage shops using tablets loaded up with pictures of guys that can be hired but it comes across as if it was a gimmick and not a smooth standard practice. Technology is coming. I think it's going to be impossible to hide from it.

Many of the guys who work in the bars have already started using the internet to boost their chances of income. When I was in Phuket and Pattaya, many of the guys on the apps worked in massage shops or the bars. Some let you know right away what bar or massage shop they could be found working. Others would only tell you they were working in a shop when and if the conversation turned to a meet-up. I think we are years away from modern technology seamlessly integrated into the selection of guys in a bar or massage shop. But it may well happen in the near future. As cameras get better and virtual photo's capture 3d images, it will be possible that a device can be used to offer a far more accurate image of the person we are interested in, but it may be a 2-way street. I can imagine walking into a place looking for a guy to off and given a device to select a guy from. Once the selection is made a 3-d photo of me is sent to the guy and he responds with a yes or no and if yes he may respond with how much he demands based on my 3-d image. I think that is a few years away and safeguards will have to come about for the guys and they will need total control of their images. Thanks to the EU and their privacy laws, control of your cyber images will improve greatly and will become commonplace. Technology is changing everything from how we consume news, work, get directions book travel and consume porn. Taxi drivers are at war with technology firms like Uber and Lyft for upending their way of doing business. Hotels are at war with AirB&B, Trip Advisor Reviews and average short-term rentals. Technology is already being blamed for the slow demise of the neighborhood gay bar so it only stands to reason that gay gogo bars and massage shops will have to embrace technology or fight it and become an afterthought. For many of us, if a business or bar does not have an internet presence does it truly exist?

I recently talked to a long-time friend who has now started using Ice. He says he only uses it for extended sex play. I didn't get into a conversation about it because I don't want friends using drugs to think that I am interested in drugs but I do have questions. Keep in mind that I have never used Poppers, Weed or any drugs beyond Marlboro Cigarettes and some alcoholic beverages. Can anyone tell me what the attraction is to Yabba? Does it get you high similar to that of being drunk? That is the only high I can relate to because in the past I have gotten drunk.

I've walked past there a few times and saw their door was closed and just assumed that a private party was going on

I can't remember the last time i offed anyone in Bangkok.

If what you are doing works for you, no need to change.

Tao Boxer? I hope he is still kicking and pinching and doing other perverted things...

Ok, but when the guys are stuck in China trying to get home, remember my post haha

I look at it like this, I do not hire anyone to perform a service without knowing the cost first. I won't even get in a taxi, let them take me to a destination and try to pay them a perceived going rate. Sure you may get away with it a few times but your luck will run out.

Hearing about the Chinese guy giving 1000 baht tips. this made me think back to the 70's. I remember movies about the mafia and pimps doing such things to groom their prey. They would give out the "free" money and later explain how that money was just the crumbs. They would lure them away from the bar and lock them into the situation the victim would have never agreed to if they were not blinded by the money and tricked by the person handing out the cash.

Your minimum may be different than my minimum. My minimum the agreed tip amount. What minimum are you referring to?

Hand over the minimum? What is the minimum?

My experience this last trip? Some guys got tipped the requested amount and a few had their requested amounts doubled without comment. I handled with one guy online and we didn't meet because if a 500 baht wall we both refused to get over. Also there were nights I threw my money around in the bars and other nights I didn't. One evening I was in the complex sitting with a friend who had 2 guys entertaining him. One guy turned to me and suggested I call over a guy he pointed out to sit with me and buy him a drink. I told him no. He mused that I didn't like having fun and buying guys drinks. I said nothing more. That was the same night I was at the 7/11 in the rain, caught 2 cute guys rain ponchos and we all ended up in my room in a 3 way.

Well the one she sold me was made in China haha. But it worked and I'll continue to do it. I also ordered a few more on eBay as Christmas gifts and they are a little nicer than the one I got in Thailand. I was with a friend from the Philipines who appreciated my use of ebay. Last year I used Amazon to compare prices and found Thailand to be too expensive to buy anything to take home.

My tip is for shopping. When I was at MBK, I found a metal elegant tissue box I wanted to buy for my sister. The lady selling it asked for 2000 baht. I stepped aside and looked for the item on eBay. I found it for $8 USD from China. I went to another shop, showed them the picture and the price asking if they had it. They did, I saw it before I asked. I asked how much and she gave me a slightly better price than the eBay price but she was not smiling...

PLEASE HELP ME... No, I am not looking for help. I seem to be hearing that phrase from a lot of my Thailand one night stands. I am not helping, I don't even ask why they need my help. When I first started receiving the requests I replied explaining that I only knew them for 1 hour and they are almost strangers. I suggest they talk to their friends or family for help. One guy in Bangkok asked for just 1500 baht. I reminded him that he is handsome with a big cock and could easily get 1500 baht. He told me he does not want sex money, he wants help money. I reminded him that we don't even know each others name... Now I don't even reply to the request. I wait a day and then reply as if the request was never made. Another friend now living in Udon Thani tells me he needs money for food. Now he is special. I first saw him at Krazy Dragon, and I was sitting with him when a guy entered the bar. Turns out the guy offed him and came back for him. Once he left with his guy, I left also and as I was making my way up the street, the gogo guy ran up to me, gave me a single rose with a kiss on the cheek and ran back to his "John." Years later the gogo guy from KD found me on Planet Romeo and we moved our chat to Line. That is our background. We never spent more than 10 min together but that does not stop him from loving me, missing me, thinking of me always and begging me for money for food. Do you guys give in and send a few bucks? I have to say that I have an former boyfriend that once lived in Philadelphia that now lives in Bali. I only hear from him when he needs money. I read him the riot act and tell him NO MORE MONEY and sometimes I think I mean it. But I make damn sure he has to wait a good week before I send it to him!