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I have moved into a new house in Jomptien. I love the house. I am quite happy and content. I am unable to get a phone line and getting Internet access in the house has been impossible. Many have told me that it is easy to get. However, the phone companies are sure they don

I have often wondered where the line is drawn when it comes to friends and their boyfriends. When I was in America, I had a policy not to get involved with those petty games. I once had 2 great friends that were lovers and together for many years. One of them had an indiscretion and because I did not tell his lover about that, I lost him as a friend. I did not think it was my place to get involved. I also hated losing a good friend over my silence. To date, I still think I did the right thing. In Pattaya, things are different as the situation is often more one where money is involved as opposed to just lovers. I have a friend who thinks his paid companion does not see anyone other than himself. Yet, I have seen the guy working the crowds and streets looking for extra income. The question is, what is my role? If this is a friend that I value and enjoy, do I speak my mind? Or, do I risk loosing the friend in either case? I know I have gone away on a few occasion and I wanted to know if my

I think you have a good point TeePee. I do understand that many people distinguish between Sunee Plaza and Boyztown. I understand this. I pay the same rate for all guys in Thailand. I tell them I will pay 1,000 baht for a short time and I do tip 200-300 depending on how good they were. I also give them motorbike taxi to return home. I don't do overnights too often but when I do, I pay them 1500 baht minimum. I pay the same price for guys in Sunee as I do other places. I am very upfront with the boys I take off and I tell them what I will pay in advance if it is someplace I am not known. If I go to a bar I frequent, I don't have to discuss these things. I also treat them with respect and offer then drinks and food to eat. Last week I offered a guy something to drink and he asked for wine. I opened up a bottle of wine. Should I have taken that out of his fee? NO. I guess everyone comes to the table with different expectations and experiences. I have sat around with Thai boys who talk about the cheap farangs who only pay 500 baht. Don't fool yourself and think that the boys don't talk bad about this. They do. They talk about us as much as we talk about them. I also know that the farangs that pay the 500 baht knocking at their door. Many think it is because a boy likes them so much. Actually, they are broke and need cash. When in a crunch, they have to do what they need to do to make ends meet. That does not mean that someone should take advantage of this. I have heard many farangs say, "rent is due and I'll get the boys cheap this week as they are hungry." How sick. This is just my two cents worth and I know not the majority opinion.

"Treat him as if it were a date? This is a prostitute, a paid sexual encounter, a business transaction....not a date. And when did Emily Post decide the going rate in Pattaya was 1500B ? Did I miss the announcement?" Welcome to the boards Jomptien. I see you are new and this is your first post. Welcome. Since you are new, you may have missed the announcment. 1500 for an overnight is the minimum somone should tip someone in Pattaya. There was a big meeting about this in Boyztown. It was a up or down vote and majority rules. The votes for the Yea won and the 1500 baht rate was set. I apologize for not sending you a memo.

Gaybutton, I could not agree more. I have a Thai boy that works at a bar. He met a farang and took him to Luxor for dinner and then out to Hollywood Disco and back to the hotel at night. He boy spent the night and the next morning the farang gave him 700 baht. The boy took it and smiled and left. The next night I was at the boys bar when the farang came back to get him. The boy said he had plans and would not go off with him. The farang got up and caused a scene. Finally, the farang said but I spent so much money on you last night. Truth is, most boys could care less where you take them to eat or where you go. They are working for the money, not a good time at Luxor or another fine eatery. When you pay a guy who stayed with you less than your bottle of wine, you should feel ashamed!

I had a very interesting conversation with a young man whom I have been with on many occasions. I met him at Throb/Splash about 2 years ago. I have been with him maybe 20 times in 2 years and always had a great time. He is totally versatile and very fun to be with on every occasion. Last night I was having sex with him and asked him to get on top of me. He said no. I asked why and he said,

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Thanks for the advice. I have been told the same thing by many others. I have had him tested for Yabba since I started helping him. He had none in his system. He threw himself into the water. I am only extending a float. I guess at the end of the night, it all comes down to am I able to sleep. Truth is, if I didn't help him I would not sleep. If I at least try, I can. Being an old man with bags under my eyes from age and too little makeup, I do what I must do to sleep at night. In this case, he calls me often before I sleep just to say hi and just to tell me he is ok. Those are the nights I sleep the best. I know that the future may hold many sleepless nights. I am a realist. I am also an optomist. He is my friend. My path with him is chosen. It is up to him to stay the course. If he takes the wrong turn, I will most likely not be on the same road with him. But, as long as he stays the course, I am there.

I am not sure about cheap but I do know that I always use NWA. I book a full coach fare, normally about 2300 US. That then gives me the ability to upgrade to first class for 30k miles. I then make the trip. Since I am Platinum, I get the full coach miles, which is more than regular price miles plus the platinum. By the end of the trip, I have more miles than I used on the 30k miles for the trip so my milage never goes down. NWA has a great site that is easy to use. Often the upgrades are not available from the city I travel from. So, I check on the net and try SF, Detroit, NY and Minn. When I find the one that has the upgrade both ways, I call them and get them to book it for me. Once I have the first class ticket it is easy to change. I have never not been able to change the flights for a more convenient date or city. I know this is not a cheap way to do it, but if you want a good way to travel first class, it works well.

LOL. Thank you so much. I have not laughed so hard in ages. I don't disagree with anything you said. I live life for each day and love the pursuit of happiness. Your thread today put me on that path early. Thank you!

I met a lady that worked in a restaurant next to Memories. She was very nice and I was introduced to her because I was told she was looking for a new job. I needed a housekeeper. She agreed to do the job. She came to my placed and gave it a try and it worked great for both of us. I told her she was hired. She went back and told her boss that she was going to take a new job and they told her to get out. She went back to her apartment and was awoken at 3am to be evicted from her apartment. She showed up at my place in tears that morning. What I don

Boyfriends and Exes are often a problem everywhere but especially in Thailand. When one understands that it is mostly business on the Thai's part, they often let aside the emotional attachments that happen in other places. Last night I was having dinner with some friends at a bar in Pattaya. I was talking to a guy from New York and he wanted to know about a boy we saw working as a doorman. I told him the guy was great, a true gay boy, fun in bed and totally versatile. I told him that few guys in Pattaya would be able to get better head than from this doorman. He thanked me for the advice as I gave the young man my highest recommendations. He asked if I had been with him many times and I told him that he lived with me for 9 months last year. "And you are OK if I go with him?" he asked. I told him that I was not only OK with it but that I know the guy needs money and it would be very good for both of them. We got into a conversation about Ex-boyfriends and when it is appropriate to date someone else's. I explained to him that it was business and when they are working, they should be able to go with anyone they want without retribution from a ex boyfriend Farang. It seems that most Thai boys agree with me but few Farangs agree with me. As we had the conversation another boy walked over and gave him a kiss on the check. He was the ex of a friend of mine. I asked him where my friend was and he said that he didn't know. He said he was now working again at a gogo bar and that it was his 2nd night on the job. The first night he went with a customer that was a bad experience. I wanted to see the boy happy so I gave him 2k baht and told him that he could be more picky with who he goes with and did not have to go with anyone he didn't want to go with. He was happy with that and said he wanted to stay with me for a few days. I agreed and told him that I would take him with me but not willing to pay the off fee for the bar for 2 weeks as he just started and if he wanted he could pay them the fee out of the money I will give him or pocket it. It was up to him. I also told him there would be no sex during this trial period and that I wanted him to talk with my friend more and if they got back together that it was OK with me and I would not be upset. He seemed happy with the proposition. Perhaps he was just happy that he was getting paid a 2 week vacation? He went to talk to the bar and my friends I was sitting with told me how stupid I was. I really thought I was doing a good thing. I find the boy very sexy and sweet. I also am not willing to loose a friend over him. Naturally, I wrote to my friend to see if he was upset and told him that I would back away if he wanted. Am I crazy? Did I do something that was insulting to either party? If a guy is working, what are the boundaries if you know they dated someone you knew? What if it is just someone that was with them one time? One week? One month?

Excellent report Cat! Thank you. Staying in Pattaya for a long time, I find I don't get to Boyztown as much as I did. Your report makes me want to try a few more bars. On another note, I have been to Cayuga 5 times to find the coverboy for Sticky Rice. I have not seen him in there one time. I am about to give up to finding him. I will have to try a few of the other places you talked about. Thanks.

I have an appointment today to get a Hutch USB. I'll let you know how it is and all the info when I test it.

This reminds me of Hillary's book, it takes an entire Village... I think it was an old African proverb that said it takes an entire village to raise a child. In many ways, the adults in Thailand that use the message boards often act like children. I am not interested in raising them. But, if we were all nice to each other and respectful to all, even if we don't like someone or their posts, I bet that the Village would be a much better place to live for us all. I have said in the past, I really don't get all the nastiness that exists on these boards. I didn't get it when I first started reading them and I don't get it now. Perhaps some have too much time on their hands. Perhaps some are just mean and nasty. Perhaps some have other agendas. But, if we all started to be nice to each other on the boards, and in person, perhaps more would join in the participation. Just IMHO.

I highly recommend PJ's House. It is clean, well maintained and a wonderful group of people. The rates are reasonable. I stayed there last fall and only have praise for the owners and the hotel.

Thanks guys. I have found the house of my dreams. So to say. It is all I had asked for and more. The real estate agent I used was great and made it a smooth process. I don't have Internet at the house. So, I will have to wait till I get ToT to put in a phone line. It may be a painful process. So, others will monitor the boards for a while. I will swim, relax and enjoy. A much needed peaceful time after the house hunting process.

Wow. I step away for a few days and all this exciiting stuff happens. How do I miss it? jk I have been taken by many a bar in Thailand. There is one bar in BoyzTown that had my bill wrong 5 out of 5 times I have went there. The last time it happened, it took 45 min to get it right. They thought I was going to just pay the extra 2 drinks they added on to the bill. I did not. I patiently waited. I have not had this happen in Sunee. I did go to one bar one and one of the doormen was dancing on stage. I took him off and they tried to charge me doorman prices. I told them no that tonight they had made him dance on the stage and he was a dancer and not a doorman. They relented. It was only 100 baht. But, it was also the principle. Actually, the doorman sent me a text message asking for help. They were short on guys that night and he had to dance. PLEASE he said. Come get me. OK, I said. And, I did. The rest is history. It is slow season and I have been to a few bars and was the only customer. That puts pressure on them to make some money. I don't think what happened to this poster is right or even ok. I just take it as part of the territory and try to watch every bill I have.

As of today, I finally found the house I want. I found a great company that was nice to deal with and very professional. I reccomend them to you. http://www.seaboard-properties.com/ They made the process very smooth and easy and they were great to work with.

I was probably one of few gay men who did not see this movie in the past few months. I have tried to watch it but could not get through the first 25 minutes without being bored. Last night a friend came over and wanted to see it and I agreed to watch it with him. I knew I was in store for a boring night. To my surprise, I watched more than the first 25 minutes and this time it was not boring. It was a great story. It had some wonderfully happy moments and some not so wonderful. The movie kept my attention and I grew not only to tolerate it but to thoroughly enjoy it. The movie rocks! If you have not had the chance to see it yet, please give it a try. It really is a great story.

We want a better way to list member ranks. Currently, they are set to: Newbie 0-9 posts Member 10-29 posts Advanced Member 30 and above We can change the names, add ranks and make it our own listing. Any suggestions?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/04/0...down/index.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4876326.stm It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few weeks.

Some of you may remember that I had a friend who showed up at my door with a bad case of Acne. I took him to the hospital and got him treatment. He then did not follow up on things the way he should have and I washed my hands of him. He reappeared. This time, he called me to tell me he had Tuberculosis. I was stunned, as I didn

I have spent the better part of 2 weeks looking for a house in Pattaya. It has been a truly pain in the ass experience. I found one place that the guy wanted to rent but when I offered him his asking price, he said he thought he wanted to sell instead of rent. I then proceeded to look at other real estate agents in the area. What I found was that no one listens to you. I was very specific in what I wanted. I told them I wanted a 3 bedroom house with a large swimming pool that someone could swim laps in. I met with 4 agents who set up times with landlords to show me different properties. Not one agent took me to see a property that I wanted. None met with the qualifications of what I told them I wanted. Finally, I found one that was nice and exactly what I wanted. The price was way more than I wanted to spend but it was the perfect house. I made an offer. It was accepted and I went to sign the contract. The price then changed to include pool and garden fees, which I was told, was part of the rent when I looked at the place. I told them forget it. They came back and said, OK, we will take the offer. That was less than 2 days ago and I have not made my decision. I am not sure that taking the place will not lead to other problems. But...... I wish there was a way to find a place here without it being such a pain.

I had dinner again tonight at Ole Resturant in Day/Night 2 in Pattaya. The food was good, the service was good and I enjoyed my meal. They seemed to have made nice improvements in all areas. Keep it up guys! I know many of you tried the place before and were unhappy with it. They seem to be working hard on fixing some of their problems. Why not check it out and give them another chance?