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LOL No dear, it was not a veiled threat. I am a pussycat and don't threaten anyone. It was an attempt at humor. However, since you don't live here and don't have real estate holdings here, you are not affected by all the coup and immigration rumors. Many of us that admit to living here do worry about it. Many don't. Please point these posts out to me. "The truth. You can't handle the truth." A Few Good Men (Aren't Jack and Tom just wonderful in this movie?)

As usual, you don't know what you are talking about. I do believe I met you one time. Since we are not friends, I won't tell you what I really think, I will just refer you to the post below your last one. The Rose hiit it on the nail. Get over it or move on. I hear the real estate market in Pattaya is on a downturn, if you have a place here, sell while the getting's good.

Per the request of the owner of a bar, we removed a post which suggested the management of the bar had underage guys working there. We do not normally remove posts as it is not productive to do so, but this thread went to far and the accusations made against the bar were not acceptable on the site. I stayed out late tonight to see a few of the bars in action. I went to the bar in question to see if the posters were accurate. I went with a Thai guy who is 22 and has been around in Sunee for a few years. I asked him to help me to access the guys in the bar that looked young. We had 5 of them over for drinks. I let my Thai guy choose and told him to pick the ones he thought looked young. One guy did not have an ID but said he was 18. As I did not see the ID, I cannot verify that. The other 4 were all over 18. One was in fact 24. I did not see any groping of any of the guys. I did not see any oral. I did not see any erections. I did not see anything involving a customer and a dancer. On the contrary, it was very mild and low key. There are bars in many areas that I have seen much action between the customer and the dancer. This did not happen tonight. Perhaps I hit an unusual night. Perhaps, they removed all the younger looking guys before the show started. I do not know. I do know that 4 of the 5 I had for drinks had ID and their face was on the ID card and they were all over 18.

I suggesgt you take someone for a night. If it works, then talk to them and tell them you want them for 2 weeks. You will pay them 1500 bath per day plus all expenses. I suggest you pay them daily so they can send money to mama if they want. At the end of the trip, I would say a 10-25 percent tip would be very appreciated. These are not hard rules that must be followed. Just suggestions.

It is best to wait till you get here. Go to a few bars and find someone you have a good time with and meets what you are looking for in a companion. I would suggest a minimum of 1500 bath a day for full-time companion. A nice tip or present at the end is also nice.

LMTU, Are those photos about you, the midget, 3 ladyboys, a lesbian and the mamasan from Kaos? If so, I have seen them. The Horror! Although, you do look good in a cowboy hat. IMHO

I was walking around the other night and saw over 20 police officers. I thought they were out to get bars and perhaps a raid. They were on a raid but not for bars or for bar workers. They were busting the illegal card playing establishments. I have been told they do this often and take away buckets of 10 bath coins. I have not seen such a force of police in any rain in Pattaya. Have you ever seen the Thai guys you hang out with playing this game? I have watched on many occasions but can't quite seem to get it. Last night I was watching 2 Thais play chess. It wasn't a game I knew as it was not chess by English rules. It was more of a free for all. I didn't know what the hell was going on. I tried to sit and teach them the rules but they were as lost to them as I was to their game. The card games have the same effect on me. It has something to do with lucky numbers and 9. Like I said, I can't be sure what the rules are as I have never understood it. What happened to a good old game of Rook?

Every wanted to play paintball with a group of guys who are so excited that they can't keep still? It makes for easy target practice that is for sure. There is a Paintball Park off of Theppasit Road in Jomptien. It is across from the large Go Kart motorway. I think we paid 400 bath for 70 painit balls. We were supplied with gear and protective clothing. I suggest that that you wear a few layers as you will get a few red spots all over your body as the paint balls hurt just a little bit. The game is fun and the place is nice. It is not as large as most paintball parks I have been to but it was enjoyable.

I had a great time at the Weekend Night market on Theppasit Road near Jomptien. There was so much to see and buy. The prices are great and the variety is amazing. The market is right off of Sumkimvit Road and behind Lotus Shopping Center. This is a fun place to spend the evening if you are in Pattaya for the weekend.

Thanks for the story Pete and the time you took to write it. I appreciate it. My last experience was very similar. Thanks for sharing.

I try to get in as much as I can. The Clubber area is in Sunee Plaza. It is next door to Monty's pool and across from the infamous Diamond Pub. They have taken over 6 shop houses. 2 are for the gogo, 2 are for the beer bar and 2 are for the restaurant. You won't be able to miss it as it is the only yellow place around. Plus, they have signs above for their energy drink that take over 2 buildings.

Much past my bedtime, I have no desire to venture out after 1AM. I think perhaps I am too old to enjoy the scene or just too content with my current boyfriend to stay out that late. However, I keep hearing that many bars are extending their hours and staying open past 1, 2 and 3. I would love to hear some stories from others about the scene past 1AM. If not, I will have adjust my sleep pattern one night and stay out all night. Please help me with this as I am not sure I would be able to wake up the next morning if I stay out too late.

I took off a very sexy guy last night. He was 22, slim, classically sexy and a night large package. I was so excited to see what lay beneath the surface clothing. When we finished with our showers, he lay on the bed with a towel covering up that massive piece. I was a little sad but realized I had not taken a gay boy but a ladyboy. I have a hard time telling the difference at times. One sure fire way to know is when they get into position. Most ladyboys will cover up and now want to show their manhood. I was anxious to see but was not given the pleasure of it last night. As I can't tell if they are offended if I want to see their shaft, I did not ask. I did have a great time.

Clubber bar in the Clubber compound is a nice treat. They had several handsome men there last night. They seem to have a new mamasan. He used to be the doorman at Sundance. He is a very nice man and he is now doing a nice job. The Clubber compound seems to be doing good business. They have a nightly crowd in the beer bar. The food joint was crowded when I walked by last night. The gogo bar was fun. I was the only farange there other than one guy who seemed to be orally engaged. If you are in Pattaya, you need to drop by the Clubber area as they have done a very nice job with the place.

While we are working on a solution for this, let me explain the problem. We have many pics in the Photo Galllery. Each day, one is placed on home page. This is done automatically at random. We don't have descriptions of all photos. Why? There are many there and will be many more. Stef takes most of the photos when he visits. I think he does a great job on them. However, when we upload them, we do so in a batch. Captions are not put on every image as often they are all the same party or event. I hope this helps.

I think an arrangement like you are referring to is not common. I can see a small town like Phuket but Pattaya and Bangkok have too many bars and opportunities. I have never heard of a bar asking for that kind of money for an off in either city. In fact, I think it is the opposite. I see many boys come and go often. Most owners realize this and plan accordingly. My understanding is that the bars in Pattaya, when a boy leaves before the salary draw, they loose it. As most only get around 3k bath a month, most don't care when a good opportunity arises. And, Pete, I agree with your BF. Just give the money to him or buy him something nice. It would be money much better spent.

Perhaps. Whose standard of ethics are we using? Are we using those of the one in power in the USA? Are we using the the ones that are given to us by the religious leaders? Are we going to use those by the majority of straights in the world? Are we going to use those that are openly gay and honry all the time? Should we use those who are at Babylon every Saturday? Or, are we going to use those of the gay men in Pattaya who frequent Sunee and Boyztown? Please let me know which standard I should look to. Hey, now I take that personally. The avatar is my one true love.

Jomptien, Your evil visitor reminds me of one of my favorite conversations:

Well, I don't know what to say other than perhaps you need to be careful chewing on your toenails. I have heard the pink toenail polish you use has toxins in it.

WIWAT CHANG That's G-A-Y not grey. There is anything between 5-10% of the Thai male population that are homosexual or gay. If 5% is the conservative guesstimate, then we're talking about 1.5m gays in Thailand alone and may be 150m in the whole world. Could this be a niche market that car makers could tap into? What do gay drivers want? A self-admitted gay motoring journalist said that most gays consider a car pretty much the same way as a woman - aesthetic and practicality are the two top concerns. He also believes that many gays love cars just like straight men - they read about cars, drive cars and buy cars they like driving too. That's not a problem, because there are already cars marketed for men and women. But wouldn't it be cool if there are cars especially made for gays? Sorry, there isn't one yet. However, there are now several businesses in Europe that cater to gay needs from gay-friendly car dealers to financing and from gay chauffeur-driven rental cars to honeymoon packages for same sex partners. Gay customers can now shop for what they want without fear of being ridiculed by homophobic salespersons. However, the number of services are still very limited What cars do gays like? To get a better picture of what car Thai gays like, we did a little unofficial online poll recently asking gays to vote for their favourite cars. Tied second places are Mercedes-Benz SLK and Peugeot 407 Coupe' (ah, yes, 'twas in Motoring last Friday). The number one vote is ... the Mini. 2006 European gay car of the year: Aston Martin DB9 Volante. Coincidentally, the Mini is bought and driven by some celebrities such as Elijah Wood (Lord of the Rings), David Hasselhof (Knight Rider and Bay Watch) and Simon Cowell (the foul mouth American Idol judge) - aren't they all seemingly gay? One TV personality we know owns a Mini but don't generalise that he's gay - he's a womaniser. Mini convertible was crowned European Gay Car of the Year 2005 - an award organised by a French gay car club called Club Auto Rainbow. The club apparently named its first gay car of the year back in 2003 with the Peugeot 206CC. More recently, the world's first gay motor show was held alongside a gay Mardi Gras in Cardiff, Wales. Several car makers were present and one even donated the big prize - a Chevrolet Matiz. You can see from these examples that gay cars are fashion statement cars (ok, may be not the Matiz). That's quite like clothes and shoes that gays buy and wear - it's mostly about looks. A gay car is not a car made for gays, but a car preferred by gays. Gay car marketing abroad In 1995, Subaru hired Martina Navratilova - a lesbian tennis legend - as celebrity endorser of the Forester and later the Outback model. The idea worked and the Forester became the lesbian car by choice (at least in the USA). Since then many other car makers have joined in the hunt for gay buyers. Volvo USA is a prominent one with ads featuring gay families: one ad shows two men and a baby and another shows two women - one embracing a pregnant one. Perhaps Volvo read a year 2000 US census which found over 600,000 households to be of same sex partners and upto a third have children. We think the idea also works because even the latest C70 model has an ad showing two men hugging a dog. Gay ads need to be done carefully and subtly, for they can deter the mainstream straight men or women buyers. Why we don't see more gay car ads might be down to the fact that in any company, gays are still a minority in the marketing meeting. Gay car marketing in Thailand? Thais are very forgiving when it comes to dealing with gays. A gay can be exempted from military draft if he is too womanly, for the fear of disrupting order in the barracks. Thais watch cross-dressed stand-up comedians on TV every weekend and transvestites doing lip-sync cabarets in Pattaya and Bangkok are popular tourist attractions. At least three Thai gay movies released in recent times were all box office hits. So why haven't we seen any gay car ads? Well, Thai executives are generally conservative when it comes to publicity and a topic as controversial as this. May be all it takes is one brave top executive to pioneer a gay ad - then he and his company would be branded as gay forever. But uh... didn't we see a car ad last year with a forever single male star as presenter? Yes, but who said he's gay? http://www.bangkokpost.com/Motoring/29Sep2006_motor004.php

Memories is set to open back up soon. They have been on holiday for a while. When they are away, the area is just not the same. Plus, I need my Pork BBQ Sandwish fix every week or two. Wishing them great success in the high season!

LOL.j No, I meant to say and and not but. I do think gays are more intelligent than straights. Why? Years ago we were more closeted and stuck to the books more. I am not sure that is the case with today's young gays, but it was for my generation.

I totally agree. However, was it the part about LetMeTellU and Niddy running away togehter that got your riled up? jk I do know how you love a good cheesburger.

Yes, it would totally work. They took us to the Temple, shops, amazing places to eat, the wood factories and outlets, etc. I tell you, both P and J are very well versed in all aspects of Chiang Mai. They are gay but both are highly intelligent and know the city very well. Their B and B is straight friendly.

My oh My how the gossip whores gather. When one of our own is away, the rumors often begin. When it is one of Pattaya