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  1. Based on the above, is it safe to say that its possible to remove Mamasan or Papasan from picture? e.g. just wave at the boy, get him off, pay the bar fine (?) and walk off the premise. also, assuming that they can get off after the last show over or can sometimes they leave earlier. i dont know how much energy in the wee hours.
  2. I stumbled upon this company on X that advertises ‘male model service’ (X: @malemodelbkk). It seems to have been around since 2019, from what I gather and has sizeable following. 3000baht to join as member. Price could go as high as 7000baht to 10000baht (quoted to get rebate as part of their promo). They also have preview on their telegram https://t.me/+Bb3BWmmfjjxlMzk1 Seems very pricey at 7000 baht as I guess they must take their cut too (middleman for these models). From what I see from their preview, some models are average while some are probably top tier. As an alternative, I guess Grindr is the ultimate escort listing site - any other that comes to mind?
  3. Makes sense. That's the classic saying of "show me the incentive, and I'll show you the outcome". With VClub7 I am guessing with minimum tips and walk-in system, the focus is more emphasized on volume. The more popular the shop is, the more mechanized that becomes. On that note than it definitely makes more sense just to set 60 minutes if one is going to VClub (instead of say 120 minutes!). I am reading the reviews and Prince, Senso (per Vinapu), Gannymede (my experience) are better in time keeping.
  4. Thanks! On your last point, do you mean thay they would ‘rush’ you to get it done versus a more relaxed pace ? Thats just been my impression reading reviews (gbsiam)
  5. I wonder how is it compared to kman/phet boy/etc. I am guessing in all circumstances if you finish in 5 minutes then the entire thing is over anyway 😉
  6. Sounds like a great evening! A quick question from a newb here, I guess you have sort of agreed on what his fees to ‘complain’ before you depart? Also do you just wave at him and he will just get tht, or you need the mamasan help.. haha, thanks
  7. I think Vclub 7 also have masseurs on site - although I heard people are not terribly happy as it’s really just in and out (massage over as soon as you do the deed). This is hearsay and I have not personally vetted it recently
  8. Just quick question to veterans here - I booked a hotel near IconSiam (Hilton Garden Inn Riverside), being a new hotel and reasonably priced. How problematic is this area to frequent the centre of the action? Looks like there is a gold line now...
  9. So I have been on the forum for sometime to collect tips / lessons learned from the different posts here, as well as refering to external resources. I thought it would be great just to share my observation on best practices in the forum. Hoping that this could be helpful for first timer gay visit to Bangkok. If you have anything else - feel free to add. A mandatory read it of course the Shameless Mack travel log - https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/category/bangkok/. God bless his soul for being a faithful field reporter of his escapades in Bangkok with lots of charm and character. The forum here also contains many trip report which are written by forum veterans … (Vinapu and others) Massage Parlor Understand that there are different type of massage parlors. Not all massage parlors are created equal: Booking or not: Parlors along Silom area tend to operate on walk-ins (VCK Club, Arena massage) while Saphan Khwai operate on booking basis (KMAN, Phetboy, One, etc). You must have LINE on your phone and add individual massage parlors on LINE to make prior booking. From what I gather, the booking need not to be made too far in advance - a day or two before is probably sufficient Tipping: It is important to understand what is the minimum tips required for each shop. Whereas the massage parlor state a minimum tip of 1000 baht+ - this signals that some sex is included - if you are not sure and want to have an exact activity in mind, be sure to ask in advance. The common courtesy here is to tip above minimum (up to 50%+) if service received is good. General thai massage parlor: Some stores along Silom are just a general massage place (like Green Massage by way of example). Here there will be a negotiation with the masseur if you want additional service and what that entails Not all massage parlors have “happy ending”. For instance, Prime Massage is known for their quality massage and unlikely you’ll have happy ending here. Some men-oriented massage is targeted at high end of the market and will not have sex involved (e.g. Prestige massage, MSense Massage) comes to mind There are tons of massage shops out there - some are geared toward tourist with tried and true business model (VCK, Prince, Ssense, Gannymede, Arena) while some are geared toward local (KMan, Aura, One, etc). There are stores further out too that are just not in tourist area (Taywa, Master Gallery, etc). VCK club is likely the most famous shop among foreigners - I’ve heard that the service in this store has gone down with it being too mechanical. You’ll likely be in and out well below the time purchased If receiving masseur photos in advance, be cautioned that the photo has been enhanced in post-edit - just to keep expectations realistic. The profile of the masseur will often indicate HEIGHT/WEIGHT/ Orientation (Gay/Straight/Bisexual) / Tool size. Generally have cash ready for tips and to purchase the massage. Do not bring valuables or too much cash. Gogo Bar (The One, Dreamboy, Moonlight, etc) GoGo bar is another way (beside Massage parlor) that enable you to have an ‘encounter’. Each bar has its own forte and the reports by various forum members here describe the type of performers are there. Sometimes you can also check out their TikTok to see the lineup of guys there. There is typically en entrance fee (500 Baht+) that includes a drink The shows typically start late 10p+ During the show, you will have an opportunity to interact with ‘mamasan’ or ‘papasan’ to see which boy you are interested to take with you at the end of the night The best practice here it seems is to have a quick chat with the boy first (with mamasan/papasan help, or just wave at him). If you have a chat with the performer, then you need to buy him a drink and maybe a small tip like 100 baht (if you dont end up taking him) During the negotiation, the best practice is to ask how much is his service be depending on your preference (Short time - couple of hours, or Long time - until next day). This is to avoid surprise of tip amount at the end. If you absolutely need certain activity to be carried out, it also does not hurt to ask now I believe the rate for ST here is about 1500baht-2000baht whereas long term can be as much as 3000-3500baht. You will also need to pay a bar fine 500baht typically when you take the boy away If the boy end up leaving earlier than anticipated, you adjust the tip accordingly (advice per forum member here) Based on my guestimation, the time you will be able to take the boy off with you is likely well past midnight - therefore this method is less than ideal to those who tend to like to sleep earlier Apps (Grindr/Hornet/JackD/etc) App is a very common way to find ‘encounter’. Of course, this is probably one of the more uncharted territory that comes with its own risk and reward. It is important to state your boundary if you have any (Such as no drugs, no alcohol, etc). Pay attention to emoji / description of the profile If you encounter money boy, looks like the rate is similar to the rate quoted above for Gogo Boy I heard some hotels as safety measures are more strict with guests and that you may have to register him. I think that’s totally cool and add layer of protection Sauna / Baththouse Some famous sauna in Bangkok comes to mind like Krubb, Sauna Mania, R3, etc. These saunas involve an entry fee (500baht?) and has the typical feature of a gay baththouse: change room, dark room, shower, onsen, sauna, movie room, lounge area, etc You can see in advance which day the sauna may have a ‘special peformance’ that night which may involve some group activity which you may participate / just see As with any visit to any gay bathhouse, it is 100% YMMV (Your Mileage may vary). However, if you go in with the expectation just to experience it - especially during night of performance - that on its own can be rewarding to some extent Safety / STD: This need not to be said that you need to pay attention to it. Best practice for STD prevention should be top of mind. At the end of the day, just as with any trip, you may have good experience on certain days and encounter hiccup on another - so don’t worry. We are just learning from each experience and most importantly to have fun Feel free to add any other tips that I may be missing
  10. This is just a quick review of these two men massage places in Bali during our short visit in Bali July 2023 and also what you can expect. First, want to thank Shameless mack for his super useful travel diary which is what inspired these visit. I guess I am going to contribute back in terms of detailed review Elegantz Spa You can book in advance via Whatsapp few days before and they will gladly confirm your therapist and treatment before. Booking is easy and photos of therapists are very close to reality. The venue is really well kept. Individual room with closet and separate shower. The room feels clean, dimly lit and feels upscale (comparable to three star hotel) For this trip I experienced the following therapists on separate occasions: Rubix, Ben and Ari. All men were in their 20s and tend to have slim fit built. See ranking at the end 😉 I ordered the 2 hour signature massage (most expensive). Basically it started with a shower (by yourself) and followed by a massage. The therapist will peform the massage naked from the get go. Depending on the therapist, there will be some body to body massage, sensual aspect of it. The massage is quite well done actually (Ari is a standout in his technique). Note that there is no 'full on performance' here and there is only a happy ending in this massage place. Albeit, it can get playful and sensual to get to that point. Tips is about 400K-500K with the massage itself around 1,000,000. Overall looking at 1.5M for two hours. None of the masseur actually did came. Masseur ranking: bar none, Ari did the best job. Followed by Ben, Rubix. Coco Grande I personally would skip this shop. The photos are totally inaccurate from the booking and the facility is really shabby. The massage table had not even a cloth on it which made me question the sanitation. The shower facility is shared. The price is cheaper by about 500K compared to Elegantz Doctor Men Spa (did not try) Wanted to try this place but we decided not to go due to distance to our hotel. But the therapist looks promising from the online page. Tips: if you plan to frequent these parlors, make sure you pick a hotel that is relatively close. Traffic in bali is terrible... Even Nusa Dua to these places can easily be close to an hour...
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