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First of all: Thanks to veteran members here @vinapu, @macaroni21, @bkkmfj2648, @reader that inspire this trip to begin with. This is the first Bangkok gay-oriented trip for me ever. I am coming back in June 2025 so will save some of the bars / onsens experience to that part of the trip. This trip is mostly focused towards gay massage experience - variety of it. I am venturing out to off beaten paths shops - reviewed / non-reviewed shops. [B]First, some burning Q&A about massage shops in Bangkok that I answered during my trip[/B] Q: How does one broadly classify gay massage experience in Bangkok? A: All stores involve to some degree of sexual activities. The massage shops can be broadly classified as follow: Pricing (Low to High), and Activities included (Soft only, Soft but hard could be included, or Mandated Hard) Q: About pricing. Why would anyone go to high end stores (1500B+) if one can get the same pleasure from stores charging fraction of the price? A: Facilities at higher end shop feels a lot more comfortable in terms of cleanliness, private bathroom - even a bathtub with full service included. However, what is often not talked about here is the quality of the boys. Boys at lower end shop is doing it for the money at whatever bare minimum. I noticed that they are more mechanical (you can see in my review below). Higher end shop boys seems to be enjoying their job because of their pay - much more likely to go above and beyond what is required. They are less subject to revolving doors phenomena that the shop just hire whoever is available. Guys at higher end shop, especially in non-freelance model, takes pride on what they do and bank of repeat business. Q: About activities. Why would anyone go to soft shop / hard optional shop if one can go to shops where hard activity is guaranteed? A: This is the nuanced that I also had to appreciate. Hard shops which tend to have mandated higher tips - will deliver exactly that. A hard activity (either T/B). I found that in these shops, by nature, the service do feel more mechanical. The boys already have earned his/her tips as long as he does the activity. In a softer shop, the boys exercise discretion on what activitiy to deliver to earn his tips. I found that kissing/affection factor is higher in softer shop versus hard oriented shops. I guess you cannot win them all! Q: What is the best predictor whether the masseure will kiss ? A: Their sexual orientation is likely the best predictor. Without fail, all the masseur who is gay will kiss a lot more willingly. A top / straight masseur will not kiss. How do you find out their sexual orientation then? The massage review group on X disclose their orientation or sometimes the shop does too, and you may ask the shop directly when booking. Q: Negotiation during soft shop session A: This is to be expected when stated minimum tips is 200B or some other nominal amount. The boys can/do exercise discretion and will offer extra service. If the boy does not speak English at all, it is possible to use the translate app and be clear on what you are asking in the beginning (B2B, handjob, etc). In the next post, I will go into more depth on the six shops that I frequented during my trip. [B]To be continued[/B].

Thanks for posting this article as reminder that any adjustment to neck/back can carry serious repercussions. One coworker was half paralyzed from chiropractic session here in Canada, so no matter what adjustments to neck and back is a nono. Otherwise, deep tissue - swedish - etc is fairly safe… I would not worry too much about it.

Just a comment on soft shop like Presitge. They will not openly discuss anything beyond regular massage. Specifically, Prestige forbid massage reviewers even disclosing they had HE. However, amount of tips given indicate something did happen. One of the masseur there is a prolific OnlyFans model.. (Maioak). However, based on reviews its widely known a HE is the upper limit of what this place will do (warranting no more than 1000B in tips). This is negotiated behind close doors...

Now the question is, do clubs carry similar raid risk? For the veteran forum members here, are drugs common say in Moonlight, dreamboy, etc. I would think that as business operator, you'd likely prohibit such use anyway..

I am tempted to say that this is one of the parties organized by VCK club - their white party?. They advertised it pretty regularly…

I recall reading Ssense review and along with others here - it is considered a soft shop (up to B2B, hj). Tip is not stated (unlike an H store) but 1500-2000B is considered appropriate depending on the service you receive. You can also consider asking in advance for the service during booking/before massage as these stores need some type of consent before they can go to the fun part. Ssense also has reputation for good massage techniques so not just pure fun unlike VCK or Glam by way of example

@vinapu, thanks for sharing. It could be that hard activity is nearly always expected in SK shop and the first guy had performance issue, and then the switch-a-roo. However I fully disapprove of non consensual part of it. This is in contrast with non-SK shop that even ask if you want anything beyond massage in all situation. Glad you still had the fun!

Hey everyone, just for a public service announcement- a new massage store is opening. Conveniently located beside OnNut. Some boys look familiar, but some look new too. the decoration is in chinese style. It has 7 rooms over 4 storeys but no private washroom. The shop is considered: H style (hard). location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/uip6udcetJbhnHYi6?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy X account: fafaspa_bkk

I think its a skill to find the diamond in the rough among the newcomers! I suppose the smile would a good indication

veterans here, do you prefer new faces or battle tested masseurs in the SK shop. I feel like the battle tested masseurs who has done it for years might be more jaded? but the new one can be so inexperienced…. Thoughts?

Thanks @TMax. Looking forward to read more reviews! 3900B for 2 hours seems to be in line with VCK Club it seems. But there you can select 1hr for total cost 2500B. How are the boy’s quality at senso? I cant seem to find their photos anywhere lol. This is the only shop that has no online presence at all.

@vinapu, thats a very astute observation. Yes, the smile seemed genuine- and one guy is just playing pool and got interrupted with the video. Phet attempted such video and they seemed like theyre just ‘present’.

Thanks @reader for sharing and venturing out! Phoenix is definitely one of those places that cater to local and have good reputation for ‘complete work’. The store has good reputation among locals. 1600B is probably a tad cheaper than typical and can confirm this is promotion that they advertise on Line. another thing to highlight about this store is that they do not run on freelance model. All the photos are taken by the store, the guys do not appear on multiple shops and they just recently expanded! All good signs of a growing and reputable shop.

I have read so many of these reviews (maybe 100+) and I really only try to figure out few things. I am frankly amused by how they are written as some form of erotica, but I am paying them for practical information and less for arousal reason. hope this is helpful If this is a S, SS or H shop (you can tell by the tips they give out at the end). S is 1000, SS is 1500-2000 and H is 2000-2500. Expected tips (per above) - they are mostly the same. If the boy looks as good as the photo (sometimes they say its better, the same or up to 15% less than the photo) State of the store (description/suggestion if its clean, has separate washroom) Fun factor: description like “hold me like a boyfriend”, “LGBTQ”, “kissing” Not so fun factor: “real man work, no kissing, does not burn the hole, does help with the hand” - suggest limited scope of work Procedures and norm: Many SS shops do have to ask the client if they want extra service or not. The code is “B2B” (higher tier service) , or “help with the hand” (Soft job) or no extra. If there is no extra, a soft shop masseur wont even touch the good!

Thanks for sharing @floridarob. Judging by photo variery, no doubt Phetboy has probably highest number of masseur with most photos not taken by the shop. M15 actually invest in a proper photo of the masseur - one can argue if they are slightly photoshopped or not - but at the very least, they invest efforts. I found instances where the boys at M15 are also not available at other shops. One of the more tell of quality of a massage shop is whether that shop has been reviewed by the massage reviewer (local thai). I never seen Phet boy review. On the other hand, I have seen m15/m27.