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Height and weight are two important pieces of information for me. What seems to be missing in your list is sexual orientation. This is important information for me as I often find straights to be a bit mechanical, though I know forum members who prefer straights. Some parlours do publish this information in a subtle way on their Line feed, see the images below and guess which one is straight and which one is gay: I would like to add that Thais get the kind of detailed information through the work of the massage reviewers who publish very in-depth information on individual masseurs in private Line groups. The mainland Chinese also have active review groups so those who do their research will be informed before they go. So for them the need for Japanese style agency model is less. This forum does not really review individual masseurs (the private part of this forum where you can do so never really took off), so the kind of detailed information must be sought out in our networks.

Some very quick reflections: the difference between Phetboy and Jey Spa is also a class difference, they appeal to different demographics locally. There are many Thais working at Jey spa, they would for cultural and probably socio-economic reasons prefer the extremely thin respectable veneer to be kept up. This means that posting of preferred sexual positions, condom size and anthropometric data would not be considered «proper». Papasan would of course tell you this information privately. If there was a crackdown on the industry by the military, the go go bars would be the first to go while massage places such as Prestige, Jey and klover would survive. Their owners want to appear respectable and don’t want to appear as mere pimps. This has the effect of the SK shops being more upfront and accessible for newcomers, whereas some others may make visitors «super confused» about what they are about. So it is not simply a business decision, but also a cultural and political decision to not be as accessible as possible. The Saphan Khwai shops don’t really dont try too hard to hide what they are about. They also have a larger number of non-Thais working there. The usual boy working at SK is a straight top, whereas you will find a lot of gay Thais at the more upscale establishments, especially the mandatory soft places where the boys have more a bit more discretion and agency about which customer to offer hard services. So yes, while upfront information «Tokyo kids» style is highly useful, repeat customers know how get the type of information they need.

Yes, go and see for yourself.

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At D&K in Bangkok you should also pay them a tip when you leave. The size of the tip depends on how long you they entertained you and how physical they got. They do get a cut of the drinks you buy. At Toolbox in Phnom Penh, I never gave tips but I bought them drinks. Maybe people also gave them tips but I didn’t see it.

They have fixed times starting at 22:30. Most people are in bar at that time.

Yes they do 😁

If you’re out searching for Hatha Khmer massage, it is directly opposite this dental clinic on 330 street: :

I recently visited PP, and since I went to the same venues as OP, and I did not do very different things to him I will post my experiences in this thread. First some tips. While Line chat is used, Telegram is the app of choice. If you want to connect with the staff at A&P, they all use telegram. Tips vary between 30-40USD. Don’t confuse this place with Bangkok, it has a much smaller scene and is less transactional, which is a breath of fresh air. I stayed at Rambutan which is the hotel right next to A&P. It has a nice pool and is gay owned. Staff is mostly young men. They offer massage services which I did not partake in as it is easy to connect with the staff at A&P through Grindr, and book massages there for slightly cheaper. All in all I would say that Rambutan price and location is great. You can easily walk to Hatha Khmer massage at 330 street and go to A&P right beside the resort. While the staff at A&P are very flirty and will seek you out on Grindr and say hello as you walk past, the staff at Rambutan is friendly and professional. Families as well as gay couples stay there so it is a different but relaxed vibe. All in all I think Rambutan is good value as they got more rooms at half the price of A&P. So it is easier to book and you can always go next door if you want to use the services at A&P. You can bring guests to your room. Hatha Khmer Wide variety of boys on offer. Full service offered. However, do your homework and ask papasan for advice before choosing a boy or you might end up with a dud. I was very pleased with the service offered there. Tips between 30-40 USD. It is located on 330 street. Can be a bit difficult to locate in the dark. Space Hair Bar: I went once. Very fit and muscular guys and good location. Fun place if you like that type of boys. Newcomers should go at least once. Toolbox: This is the place I liked the most and the last night I left at 3am. Boys hold a good conversation and can become quite tactile after 1am. The crowd is a mix of tourists and expats. The show on the pool table begins at 10:30pm and is of good quality. I liked their two lead dancers very much. Quite well choreographed dances. The setup of the bar is also conducive to interaction. Two of the nights I were there a central table was occupied by what seemed like a very close knit group of older expats. They have got the host bar concept right. Unlike Dragon and Koi I did not tip the staff directly but bought them drinks. I don’t know exactly what their business model entails and how profits from drinks are shared. A picture of the staff below which is current. If you like twinks this is the place. While offs after hours are theoretically possible. Please don’t mistake this for a gogo bar. Offing was never brought up in conversations by neither me or the boys. There are enough MBs on Grindr if that is what you want.

I agree with previous posters that this will be quickly outdated. I would appreciate a better search function in the forum tbh. Here is some info nonetheless: 600 THB for a HJ 1000 THB for a HJ where the masseur is naked 1000-1500 THB body to body 1500-2000 THB outside only, Body to body B2B, kissing, HJ ++ but not penetration 1500-3000 THB Penetration This is a rough guide and can be outdated quickly. Since it is Sukhumvit expect certain places to have a higher price range, like Aurora for example.

Kino-saki spa has just increased their prices. They say its due to prices of essential oils. This price adjustment puts them at the higher end of the spa scale which I personally don’t think is justified considering the quite basic state of their facilities.

Le Meridien in Silom, no problem at all. So/ Bangkok, no problem at all. The boys tend to like the rooms very well, especially if they have good views.

Why would freelancers frequent such places? They find their clients on Grindr and Hornet…

The scam centres operate in many parts of the golden triangle including Laos and Cambodia. The pig butchering scam centre model originated in Cambodia. This type of scam centre thrived in the zones off lawlessness that the military coup of 2021 opened up. They are being controlled by Chinese criminal groups who find their home not only on the mainland but also Singapore, Malaysia and Macau. They were driven away by rebel groups in the North of Myanmar but did set themselves up again in the border regions with Thailand. It will be difficult to eliminate these centres completely as they are also a source of financing for not only the rebel groups but also the junta itself. It is also a highly lucrative business. Some of the people who work in the centres now what they are doing and do so willingly, others have been trafficked into this.

I had a massage that included blindfolds and incense, Jimmy Jarnet style. It’s intense.

You will find that their X account got more updated info than their Line. https://maps.app.goo.gl/UxBGDftCXJsEbZX89

I am a frequent visitor to Ssense. More than six times in the last few months. I have only been disappointed once, and that scrub was still average. I recommend them because while an absolute guarantee against disappointment cannot be issued. They do run a quality control system to keep up the standards unlike so many other places in Bangkok.

The Aurora Sukhumvit branch is still operational. 90 min oil massage is 1450B, minimum tip is 3000B. Twunks and hunks mostly. You can add their Line below. Some of the guys who work at Zoo spa also work at Aurora, and I personally find Aurora more responsive and easier to book.

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Guide to the parlours of Sukhumvit (Pictures of people in this post are from X.) You might find yourself in Sukhumvit for work or other related reasons and depending on the time of day it might be inconvenient to reach your preferred places in other parts of the city. Here is a guide to some known and lesser known places in Sukhumvit for your convenience. Jey Spa I would refer to this as the flagship of the spas in Sukhumvit. The boys here are easy on the eyes (some are model tier) and boy do they deliver full service (H). Massage skills vary, but in general you don’t go there for the massages. The place is very clean and well-maintained. Papasan is polite and responsive. In general you ought to pre-book your masseur and minimum tips vary between 1800 B and 3000 B, depending on boy. A large suite room with bed costs 1500 for 90 min. You can also request cheaper rooms with massage tables. I recommend to connect with them on Line. You might want to ask here on this forum for recommendations regarding who does what as the papasan might be hesitant to discuss exactly what the boys can and cannot do on Line unless he knows you as a returning customer. The client base of this shop is middle class thais and travelling businessmen (often in full corporate regalia). Men Club X: @menclubSKV31 Open between 14-23, this place is tucked into a small alley next to a nuru massage shop catering to straight clients. It is not discretely located and people will immediately know what you’re up to should you swing into this alley. This men club concept also includes a bar and karaoke should you be so inclined. The concept is similar to Senso men club in Silom, you don’t prebook but go there during opening hours and pick a boy from a selection on the ground floor. The boys I would describe as Saphan Khwai types, twunks, with a slight rough edge. This place offers full service (H). Massage skills are average. Minimum tip is 2000B for 120 minutes. Nine Spa This charming little spa is tucked away in a residential neighborhood if you continue on your way from Men club. They have a selection of nice boys (boy next door type) available on Line. I did not have time to check their services, but their minimum tip indicate that something beyond a soft service is offered. Price for oil massage 60 minutes is 600B and 90 minutes. Minimum tip is 1000B. Kino-saki spa This is a Japanese themed spa and does look very nice from the outside and front entrance but once you delve further into the spa you will find it a bit out of date and rickety. Showers are not the best for example. The massages here are average to very good and they offer super soft service depending on the boy. I found quality to be inconsistent and I can at present only recommend the masseurs Daisei and Kensei. However they offer great service. You book them through Line. Come here if you don’t mind the out of date interiors and want an experience with more of an emphasis on the massage rather than the afters (although the boys I have listed here will deliver extras up to B2B). Pricing 90 minute oil 1100B, minimum tip 200B (however more if you opt for soft services) Zoo wellness Spa Line: @zoospa This is another high end spa, with very good looking boys. However this is an expensive place, and might be more worth it for those who live in Bangkok. They got a somewhat annoying way to book on Line. There is some disagreement whether this spa is actually worth it, and several of their therapists like Golf and Fred are not exclusive to them. You might be better off by going to Jey Spa instead. However, go and see for yourself as one great sage on this forum once put it. Aurora Massage This shop used to have a branch in Sukhumvit. It is a full service shop (H) where the emphasis is not on the massage. Quite high minimum tips in the range of 3000B as they will say that’s what you pay for model tier boys. High tier. I would appreciate if some kind forum member could confirm if they still operate in Sukhumvit. Please feel free to offer any supplementary information.

What’s the alternatives that you would recommend to other forum members? 🤷‍♂️

Since it’s a type 1 place you would fully expect the masseurs to remain clothed throughout the session 🤷‍♂️

The ones I wanted at chaichana were on Hornet. I messaged him and went there. He wasn’t sitting outside.