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and check for proper insertion

Or has a new-born grandson and also a long-term farang boyfriend.

in every way he can...

Actually, in Vietnam, you could get a bj for just 50K VND (around 70B or 2.2$) in certain outdoor places. But I don't think you guys should venture out there on your own, unless you are with a trusted local friend/acquaintance. It would be quite an adventure indeed. It looks like he wasn't around when Jason visited the bar. I'll find out when I'm back to Bangkok in two weeks.

That garland is just symbolic. It's worth 1000B only and the receiver, I heard, gets to keep 750B out of it. I noticed, like if Day 1, models A and B got the garland, then Day 2, models C and D got it, and so forth. Sometimes, models A got 2 garlands on Day 1, or he got another garland on Day 2. So my guess is that: the first one on Day 1 was staged by the bar. Any extra one on the same day or those on other days were actually from customers.

Got it. I'll try it when I'm back to Bangkok in two weeks. I guess they are also offable? Vinapu mentioned a certain tiny Laos

If I walk up the stairs straight to Hotmale go-go, there is also a bar right outside the go-go bar on the second floor and that's what confused me. Every time you guys talk about Hotmale downstairs, I think that bar

Still not sure when you guys talk about Hot Male downstairs. Is it at the same level as Dreamboy (first floor), or as Fresh Boys (second floor)? I think it's easier to watch people coming and going if I sit somewhere on the first floor. I tried the little pub right below Fresh Boys (heard it's owned by the same owner of Fresh Boys) and it worked well.

Wow, did you write a book on this topic, or something?

Actually they did. Here are some examples. I also noticed that those with a not so well-built body usually walk and talk with a kinda effeminate mannerism, which makes me think they are gay. The one from South Korea obviously had some facelift and nose job done As a bonus, a clip of the winner - the Vietnamese contestant

The last time I was in Banana Room, there was this Farang customer, who came in quite late (30 min before the closing time) with his entourage of two teenage boys. He checked out the boys on rotation and later called one down. So I asked Mamasan when he sat next to me if the gentleman actually tried to find a third boy. He confirmed and said something along the line: great fun, you should do it I observed the ménage à trois for some time, just out of curiosity. It seemed the first two boys do not really interact with each other, one of them smiled at me and I smiled back because he's cute. Does that count as flirting hehe? Anyway, I left before they did so didn't know if he really offed a third boy.

Here are the two contestants representing Thailand and Vietnam in Mister National Universe 2022 just wrapped up in Thailand last week. I think the Thai contestant (who finished in top 10) has more of a Jupiter vibe, while the Vietnamese contest (who is the final winner) has more of a Moonlight vibe. So which one you would off and for how much? hehe

I don't think many straight guys would have problems with this arrangement as to them, it's just work (like you are asked to do a gay porn together). Straight boys I know back in Vietnam certain don't. Some even offer "a discount" if you take their "brother" as well. On the other hand, gay boys who are "sisters" with each other might mind. My offer for threesome was turned down twice in Pattaya (one in Toy Boy and another in a go-go bar used to be next to Nice Boys whose name I forgot). In each case, both boys wanted to go with me but separately. You can off him today, off me tomorrow. They wouldn't do it if their "sister" is around. It's too weird, they said. It might hurt if they both get inside @jason1975 at the same time

And they often inflate the tips they received from other customers as well (the anchor effect in psychology). Many MBs I met has his "A-customer-gave-me-5000-for-ST" story and for Viet boys, who claim "top-only", the "A-customer-offered-10000-for-f*cking-me-but-I-said-no" story (hint: I'm waiting for a higher bidder)

It's Nấm spa (nấm means Mushroom in Vietnamese), a quite well-known men spa in HCM City. You can just select any point in the central area of District 10 on the map and search for guys in the radius of 2 km, it should work. If you want to narrow it down further, then locate sub-district or ward 12 (phường 12, quận 10 in Vietnamese). Both Nam Spa and also Bi Spa (where the boy in the story mentioned earlier works) are located in that sub-district. I suspect there are tips shared among the boys on how to deal with returning customers If you do this, if you do that whenever you see the customer, you'll have a better chance of a repeat. I remember one Thai boy who worked as a waiter in the old Jupiter (when it was still at the place where Moonlight now is). I offed him from the bar and had great time. He was a newbie, just started working at Jupiter and it looked like I was his first customer, fresh and nice, did whatever I told him to do and was undemanding. Then the second time when I told him to go straight to my hotel, I could tell his behavior changed. Asked for more money, asked for taxi fares, brought me a card with some English writing (most words misspelt, including my name) :), kept asking when I would see him again. Obviously, someone told him to do all kinds of stuff to win me over and more importantly get more money. He tried, but very awkwardly

If you stay in Silom and want them to deliver, they quote 3500.

I can confirm that the boy in question does look like his pictures, very cute in person as well, and can also do massage quite professionally. I used his service and was happy. Usually, I follow some pimps to see pictures of the boys and then just do the opposite: scout the apps for familiar faces You also need to know where to put your location while searching. In Hanoi, for example, search the old quarter or Hoan Kiem lake. In Ho Chi Minh city, District 1 (the actual city center, especially the Bui Vien area which we call phố tây - street for foreigners) or District 10 (the de factor gay service center with a lot of gay massage parlors and saunas located there)

What's the deal with tipping in Moonlight? It looks like someone gets tipped every few minutes in that bar, and models take turns to get their thousand-baht garlands. When I was in Jupiter last week, a whole hour full of nice performances and boy parades and no one (neither boys nor performers) got any tips even though there are quite a few groups of customers, both men and women, around. Does Moonlight actually do fake tips to get the ball rolling?

Doesn't shaving make you look less like Mr. KFC?

Viet boys, both freelancers and bar boys, for whatever reasons, appear to stick strictly to Bangkok. In my 20 years of frequenting both Bangkok and Pattaya, I met just one Viet MB in Cupidol.

I just think it was fair. He did a much better job than some bar boys for whose services I spent 3000+ (bar drink + boy drink + bar fine + boy fee) Bf after just one encounter and a few thousands baht? Anyway, I'm not looking for any kinds of long-term relationship with Thai boys. I don't even do LTs. But If the chemistry helps make our encounters more worthwhile, I certainly appreciate it.

Indeed on my last trip, I had had much better luck with app boys than the bar ones. The two boys I offed from bar look great but total dud in bed. The boy in the above post is my second best, and my best is a boy from Chiangmai, who stopped in Bangkok just for one night on his way home. He stayed in Quarter in Soil 6 a few hundreds meters from my own hotel, so we kinda "ran into" each other on Hornet. He only asked for 1000 so there was no haggling. Since he's so close, I asked to meet him in person and he, not just met, but took me directly to his room. I didn't expect this, nor did I expect the sex would be so... inspiring in a so tiny room It all happened less than 30 min from the point we started chatting. I asked him when he would leave Bangkok, thinking for an immediate repeat the next day (I rarely do this) but he said he will fly out early the next morning. Since he said the Quarter room cost him 1500, I gave him all the pocket money I had on me at that point (1800B). I walked from my hotel to his in my shorts, sleeveless T-shirt, slippers, bringing no wallet, condoms or lubes, thinking I would just see if he really looks like his picture

By the way, if you guys visit Vietnam and use MBs, you may wanna know about a different but related kind of situation especially when you get a boy through a mediator, a pimping service. Many of those online pimps just scout the apps, looking for any boys who advertise themselves as MB (in Vietnam, we usually use the term call boy or cb instead), then create their own list of "models". As a result, the same boy may appear in multiple lists advertised by different pimps. In many cases, the pimps know next to nothing about their boys and can't answer your questions about the boy's sexual orientation, whether he looks like his pictures, what he would or would not do in bed, etc. Worse still, they also jack up the price quite a bit (for example, if you deal directly with the boy, he may ask for somewhere between 500K and 1 mil VND short time, about 700-1500B or 22-45 USD. Through a pimp, that would become 1-1.5 mil VND (and if they know that you are foreigners, they may quote the price in USD for even more money, so feel free to haggle). The more a pimp can charge you, the more commission he gets (30% of what the boy gets from you). Different pimps may quote you different prices for the same boy. One MB in Ho Chi Minh City told me his story. He got a customer (a Vietnamese overseas) through a pimp and travelled all the way to meet the customer in his centrally-located hotel. The agreed price is 1.2 mil (which means the pimp's cut is 400K). However, the customer, for whatever reasons, changed his mind and didn't want sex. He offered the boy 500K for "meeting and chatting". The boy told me: he had to give the pimp his cut of 400K no matter what, and the remaining 100K wasn't even enough to cover his two-way taxi fare. So he insisted the customer pay the agreed amount because a deal was a deal. When the customer refused, you know what the boy did? Right there in the middle of the hotel lobby, he (kinda small-built) jumped on the guy (tall and big) and screamed in Vietnamese. I need a moment think how I should translate this into English... "Everyone, this jerk's trying to stiff a whore! This jerk's trying to stiff a whore!" (that's how we make a scene in Vietnam). You probably know the ending right? The customer paid up and the boy left, but damages already done.

As a follow-up, even though I thought about giving the boy the benefit of the doubt and that he asked for payment in advance just for fear of being cheated, I heeded your advice and moved on to the next boy, who is 19 years old, from Isan, in Bangkok to study (he told me). He used to work part-time in a restaurant, lost his job due to Covid, never worked in a boy bar before. We chatted on Grindr, he seems nice and very accommodating, answering all the questions without attitude. Asked for 2000 then agreed with 1500. So I told him to come to my hotel. I didn't know that at that point @jason1975 was doing more or less the same thing, in the same hotel (just different floor). I got lazy so I copied his narration Anyway, I could tell that the boy was really into me. He was all over me the moment I closed the door. He kept giggling and holding my face with both hands, saying "you are nice". After sex, we cuddled a little and a couple of times I tried to get up (it was time for me to hit the gym), he held me back for a few more minutes. When I gave him the money (the agreed amount + 200B for travel), he said in his broken English: "I like you but not as customer" hehe, so we are like brothers with benefits now? All in all, a happy ending.

Note to self: wear some fake glasses next time meet Jason So who's Mr. J? My guess is