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It was the coup in Bangkok in 2014. Maybe the hotel manager was over anxious and told the lads to go home to Vietnam. But the army were almost sat outside BBB Inn along Rama IV before the coup so it was an anxious time for everyone.

And in 2014 BBB Inn had 6 very sexy Vietnamese lads working massage. I'm still in touch with some of them. Sadly the coup sent them home.

I once did an afternoon trip to Tachilek in Myanmar, getting a minibus from Chiang Rai, which can serve as a visa run if needed. Worth a go if it's still safe and doable.

https://mikepattayataxi.com/ I used them the other day from Bangkok to Pattaya and have done in the past.

One issue with having their contacts on Line etc, and I have plenty, is that they can ask us to send cash with true or made up sob stories. In my early days I was too generous but have put the shutters down. I pay well for services while I am here.

I think smoking is at the back of the bar in GB but check with mamasans

I do a slow walk past The Green, Avarin, Soi 6 looking for the cutest lad after 2pm when many lads go to work. As for Pattaya where I'm going today, you might like the lively show at X boys though the bar's off fee is 800 and it's not as twinky as Freshboys. I suggest Toy Boys there for twinks. Jomtien, a baht bus ride from central Pattaya, has plenty of twinks. I suggest M bar there to start with.

An issue with condoms after a very oily massage is that the oil can make condoms break. Once in Pattaya the guy put vaseline on the condom and it broke so I'm wary of this.

Good boys below Freshboys has a few twinky guys though not as many as Freshboys, in my opinion. And Good boys does have the drag performers. One can ask the times of the shows and avoid them of course, if that's an issue. In 50 plus trips here I have never seen a 'straight boy having his way with a lady on stage' and the authorities did ban fucking on go go stages a few years ago.

I talk to the Mamasan about taking a lad off for a few days and pay the multi day off fee in advance. One way to really piss off a bar is to try to get out of paying the off fee. And, as you say, it rebounds on the lad. In some bars I have known it be against the rules to even share line/whatsapp etc with the lads; so best done out of the bar's sight.

4000bt a day doesn't sound a lot but as it became a 24,000bt package he was fine with it. We also have to pay the bar's off fee of course and all the travel expenses. Finding a compatible lad for travelling is necessary and the only way to find out is to try it. I've done it a few times and don't regret any of the trips even though it's not cheap. When a lad tells me he's never been on a plane before or visited x I can very easily says 'let's go' after a few beers.

Prices are variable. Make them an offer, maybe mentioning what you want to do and until what time, maybe on the phone which can record it. 15 months ago I was paying a lad 4000bt a day to go on two three day trips. It can be fun but do consider possible disadvantages too eg. you want to sleep all night and they want to sleep all day.

You can ask the Mamasan for change to give you 100's. I say: 'Nung loi, nung loi' one hundred, one hundred, as I hand over a note.

My experience is that all of the lads in the massage shops on Soi 6 are looking to upsell to at least a happy ending or a lot more though the tip they suggest rapidly goes to 1000/1500/2000. Still where we come from that is not expensive for a good time. My tip is not to let them suggest it 50 minutes into a one hour massage, when little time is left, but start the 'fun' conversation a lot earlier if that's what you want.

My experience is that the lads often resist overnights and even if they agree, a 2am 'emergency' (eg room mate has no key to room) often emerges. I think you are entitled to 2 breakfasts but I would check with the reception who spoke good English when I was last at that hotel.

In go go bars in Thailand every male on a go go bar stage is called a 'boy', whatever their age. Most of them are aged 20 to 30 but in the muscle bars they might be 40. So when Thai people are speaking to each other would they use the Thai word for 'boy'?

I tip when I pay the bill and say no frequently to other requests. But I know so many men at Freshboys that too many manage to winkle 100 bt out of me. I'm told that money left in the folder there is pooled and divided amongst the waiters at the end of the night. A note on top of the folder goes in the waiter's pocket, which is normal in Thailand, and can make for a happier waiter in restaurants.

Yes, you buy them a drink if you've asked them to sit with you. The tip depends on how long you want them to sit with you but I think 200 bt is minimum.

We can joke back if we know them eg. handing them a 500 note for the bill and saying 'one thousand'. To be serious it's often a good idea to say what banknote we're giving them so there is no dispute later.

You are correct. 800bt. I messaged the mamasan to ask.

Are you sure the off fee at X Boys is 800bt? That sounds oddly high for that bar.

Massage shops on Silom Soi 6 have some twink types who will do B2B for a price

I like Bangkok Christian Hospital. For other people in the future I would also suggest Pulse Clinic on Silom. Worth looking at all their services. For anyone short of cash most pharmacies will sell amoxicillin without prescription very cheaply, just asking for a reason, like a sore throat. I have also used BNH on Convent, not far away, many times for minor medical issues and been happy with good service at a reasonable price.

Tarntawan was no problem bringing a boy back but they had to have id. One thing I liked about the Raya was not having to think about the id as the lift from the rear car park avoids the staffed reception.

Thank you everyone. I think I'll give the Rose a try next time. 56Surawong is ok though lower rooms can be noisy at night (traffic and taking the market down) and I had to move to a room in the centre of the building to get wi fi that worked.