sydneyboy1

Very well said. I am returning to Bangkok in November after a 3 year absence. The scene has changed markedly in that time and despite having been to Bangkok at least a dozen times I am following this forum closely and will be seeking advice from people who have visited recently.

How were the Fresh Boys crew dressed?

Could I clarify one point. What are the boys wearing? Jock straps, jeans, shitless or what?

Opening 8 August appears on their website.

My favourite massage places eg Hero in its old incarnation are now long gone I’m afraid so please keep the suggestions coming!

Any other suggestions welcome. I have not been to Bangkok for about 3 years and the massage scene has changed.

Thank you, much appreciated. What other massage venues do you recommend? A massage and HE?

Has anyone been to Arena lately? Any advice on the number and quality of the boys on offer, protocols, the level of service, the premises? Comments welcome.

I am planning a trip in November, my first visit since Covid. This is the sought of practical information I was after.

I am right in saying that the only current requirement for entry to Thailand as of 1 July is proof of vaccination?

Thank you. Much appreciated. I have been to Bangkok many times but not in recent years for obvious reasons. The massage scene has changed it would appear due to Covid so this up to date information is very helpful. The old Hero was my absolute favourite but long gone I’m afraid.

Is that correct 75 on site? What are they wearing at the moment?

Do the boys there provide a happy ending?

Well 4 years ago, well and truely pre Covid, it was for all practical purposes a chubby chasers bar. The “boys” were overweight, heavily tattooed and very unattractive. A tragic shadow of 10 years ago.

Goodness gracious! The place has obviously changed since I was there 4 years ago. How many guys on offer?

Could I clarify something. What are the boys wearing in the gogo bars at the moment?

Are the boys in all bars now wearing shorts or jock straps?

Please report back.

You raised some excellent points. When I first went to Rio in 2005 the standard of hotel accommodation was atrocious. In more recent times the Copacabana Palace has been renovated and the Fasano and Emiliano are welcome additions. When you consider the size of the city the pickings are still lean. I know only too well the question of safety. In 2005 I was mugged at knife point by 3 thugs almost in front of the Copacabana Palace. I have become very fond of São Paulo over the years and agree that the vastly superior accommodations and restaurants are an incentive not to mention the delights of Lagoa and Fragata. I have been to Brazil 9 times and have always spent more time in São Paulo.

At the moment how would you compare the Rio saunas with Lagoa?

Good question!

Thank you for all the helpful replies to my original post. This forum at its best!

Thank you. I have been to São Paulo 9 times but not in recent years for obvious reasons. I sampled the delights of Lagoa and Fragata in there old locations many times. Your description of Lagoa is very encouraging and sounds like old times in a new location. I have very fond memories of the old Fragata and I am still intrigued by Clube 555. Any comments welcome.

A question for recent travellers. As the dust settles on the pandemic, how do these 2 São Paulo rent boy saunas compare? There have been recent reports on Lagoa but a comparative with Clube 555 would be welcome.

This is the most positive Bangkok news I’ve read for some time. Let’s hope things gradually improve and a Christmas trip for yours truly could be on the cards!