Riobard

So far, I am very impressed, based on a Saturday (and regular Monday!?!) afternoon at the brothel venue Sauna Paragonya. Brasil and Czechoslovakia are in the house. A ménage with Pavol (aka MarkyMark) and Dominik a load of fun, though the suites a little cramped for the desired choreography. In retrospect, would have hosted them separately there, and dealt more nonverbally rather than rather chatty Pav translating for Dom throughout. But both EXTREMELY cute, beautiful blue eyes, and skin and bods not to mention bttms to shed tears over. Gave it a half hour to start, on arrival, for my specs and BRZ connections to crackle thru the house ether ... caught snippets of my details being disseminated among the guys. At least 5 Brasilians worth my time ... so far caught two. My time in northern Switzerland is, sadly, limited but I will likely return. Overall, I currently rate Paragonya 8.5 (up there with 117 and Thermas) compared to recent Adan visits a 3. BYOSandals.

I understand that within the past few months there has been a security guard at Thermas, and reviews seem to suggest that has toned down the escorts' pushiness. So perhaps it was worse previously? But even so, I found over the years that I could cope fairly well with the aggressive hustles for business, even if it meant borderline rudeness on my part, at the level of flat out ignoring repeated passes. In contrast to Brazil, I learned at Thermas to NEVER say "maybe later". In Barcelona that means a soft yes.

The OP did not get the guy he wanted and instead paid much more for a guy he did not want. This cascade effect was attributable to his initially following pricing advice that is often put forward on this board but may be getting antequated. So of course he is welcome on the forum and can choose what is useful and what is not. If others learn something from his admitted judgement errors, all the better. But other members deciding what is relevant and useful for the poster exceeds the arrogance of any one player in the original narrative.

I think that when you ask the price and subsequently attempt to drill it down, YOUR positioning is going to be seen as somewhere between confidence and arrogance. When you are the one opening the bargaining pass, you have to accept that perhaps he who speaks first loses. You already knew the product met all your criteria and the inventory was low. Similarly, the other party's response is going to be viewed by you as somewhere along that continuum. This is the case when what is value driven grinds against what is price driven. The garoto's apparently arrogant or dismissive response may simply be a positioning tool not particularly linked to ego. It is possibly mostly performative, and may have worked better in the past compared to the calm confidence some customers prefer. Or it may be just a shooting gallery where the ultimate outcome is one or more feet being shot. As some have said, the house trend is to uptick from the arbitrary 100 standard. Leaving sure cash on the table becomes more common in the interests of that long-range end. Let that apparent lack of logic go if it is not working. If you already know you want to pay 100 and many will accept it, why request the price as if you were in the dark? Why not use your own offer as the jumping off point? You can frame it as your understanding of what is possible or has been experienced. Then it is less personalized and you may get a slightly better read on his positioning motives. If he is emotionally reactive (real or "put on") to this more neutral approach, I think your assessment of his stance may be more accurate. Better that he inflate your open-ended front-end offer than you deflate his bottom-line fee. Or just listen to everyone else and rigidly stick to 100 and swallow what you get.

I paid four visits to Adan over a 3-week period, varying the days of the week in an attempt to fairly assess. Let me try to sum up my overall impression using Spain and Brazil venues, and UK Villa Gianni, ratings reference points, scaled 0-10. Dragon, 5 California, 5 --- Fox, 5 Masculino (Planetario) 11, 7 --- Olimpo, 6 --- C117, 8 P202, 7 NMM, 4 --- Fragata, 4 Lagoa, 8 --- Mezzaninu, 7 ---- VG, 6 --- Thermas, 8 Adan, 3 If there are a few among you who would wish a more detailed report of my experiences at Adan, feel free to private msg me. I will cobble something together and copy to you.

Not terribly uncommon among the garotos ... Carlos a regular at 117 has to adjust hs topping due to a damaged knee secondary to MCA ... bur he still sends me to paradise. Tomasian's 'acquarium' Doug got badly cut up thrown from a MC a year ago. A major scar on his shoulder. I hope the infamous Rio green-eyed EuroBrasileiro club/netgay lad Gustavo keeps safe. I have seen him mount his very high-end MC with very fancy garb at the Gloria corner.

Sanddunes, I truly enjoyed all your prolific very interesting observations and stories over your quarter in Brasil!

At the risk of reverting back to the OP original theme, here's a clue: What species of (edible) animal would be capable of, have the dexterity to, end up of its own accord on a bridge and attempt to cross it?

This board keeps a classic fable alive.

Read the 8th post, above the pics where, yes, you see the sea, not evidence of radical climate change in Ronda.

I had a stye there last year. It got worse when I let it go. Went to walk-in Galdino Campos clinic near you. He prescribed hot compresses, drops, and bedtime ointment from nearby pharmacy. It took about 60 minutes. It stabilized then cleared. If you neglect it, you may need lancing later. I paid for the MD with credit card, did not bother to claim on travel medical ins. The doctor does the immigrn physicals at CDN embassy for visa applicants. Too much hot ass sitting on my face.

Nary a local, Phoenician or otherwise, to be found on Grindr. Had a very shitty conventional massage in my spa hotel ... it was so technically poor I almost got off the table. Had very little time and could have used the waters there instead. Bad planning because I had arrived initially on their closed day. The 1st two pics from rooftop terrace. Air very clean compared to Sevilla currently.

The town was swarming with hundreds of runners and cyclists doing a famous 100km/24hr marathon event.That explains all hotels being booked months ago, but I got an airbnb apt 2 months ago, out of an inventory of 3. What a beautiful place ... I hope to return one day for hiking/cycling. The scenery and unique geography was almost startling. Among the nicest experienced in my life. I then went to Cadiz, possibly the 1st European coastal settlement some 3,000 yrs ago, likely Phoenicians, a town sadly undervisited. Pics next dialogue field ...

Being mesmerized can make one oblivious

Yeah, tomasian, is is expected that you conserve energy both for full daytime dates and subsequent evening brothel encounters. For your fun and our curiosity! Four more days. Hope they are great for you. Re:editing, you have 60 minutes following hitting the post button. Otherwise, for deletion, totallyoz is the admin to be contacted, but you need something like the post or thread URL, and I believe the whole thread gets removed ... I forget the details. I am relaying info not expectation.

It is not a need, more an instinctive drive like cruising by a carwreck or seeing somebody sink in quicksand and not being able to do anything to help. I have no desire to keep the promise you propose. It is slightly amusing and good practice to handle your often hostile smart-alecky riffs. Keep your end of the proposed ghosting, if you like. But I think you are too emotionally volatile to bite your tongue. People are what they repeatedly do. I think you understand more than you let on and you are possibly not doing what is usually the best thing to cover dumb: playing dumb.

Because Likes Are Helium, when it comes to those who endorse His Specialness' immature rudeness.

Language barrier aside, Riobard cannot help but consistently have more than a Demi Woody, at any level, on the premises.

No more delayed than the time it takes for Caucasian-appearing garotos to totally memorize clientele.

The pic posting is more preference-based than rule-based. I ran into some minor trouble about it, and there are one or two members here I respect overall, and they maintain the same philosophy I now follow. We have the prerogative of anonymity and I personally believe that that courtesy is worth extending to working guys UNLESS marketing is part of their trade. I would usually interpret getting pics from the guy as a favour extended to me personally. They may seem loose and nonchalant about it ... I would not take that as consent. There are 30,000 members here and I do not expect that, even given that reality, "D" would see an uptick in business. The exposure liability likely overruns any true economic benefit for him. And I would be blowing smoke up his ass if I were to try to persuade him that consent would be a worthwhile marketing tool. There are other ways to assist if you want, direct referrals being but one. Just my thoughts ... everyone is their own boss.

I will PM you, Tomasian. I no longer post garoto photos without explicit permission, and I do not verify working status unless the guy advertises within the public domain.

I assume, but don't require or expect, some degree of familiarity with commonly used colloquial terms in the area of sex and cruising. It is surprising how little is known by some members on a forum centered on these themes. You can react negatively or take a learning moment. Up to you. Mama always said: ignore the ignoramous. Barely contained narcissistic rage is also not worth the keyboard it is typed on. Like I said: you are going to do what you do, including reading my material notwithstanding your oft stated refusal to do so, and throw shade on me for the sake of one or two tepid 'likes'. I would be LMAO if a sad sack did not warrant a moment of silence. BB, it is evident from a few of us that you are just somebody to be handled. Ths is common on largely populated fora. Sometimes the content of your posts contain useful info or you corroborate others' realities. For my part, I realize there will be signal and noise. I don't think you have the skills to mitigate noise. This means the signal is harder to extract, but I have an attention span greater than 10 seconds and will try to find it. All this is going to piss you off ... you will say LMAO, but we know you will be blowing a gasket, and there is no way in hell you will ignore this and and refrain from retaliation. Have at it.

KKKKK .... now who's twinning me in derailing a thread, pauleiro's BHz post? I am doing it. We all do it. LMAO. Pauleiro, are you left enough room in the ether to add more on your trip?

I also had these exact and only two KBs on VHS ... wore them out. In fact recently rented one of the clips. I was taken by how different they were from standard US fare. The twins plowing the 3rd's mouth and hole simultaneously was so hot, on an outdoors porch or veranda.