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Yes, online it's a whole other world with lots of unknowns, risks, and gambling involved. I'll leave that area to those with more expertise.

Seem to be three styles at Lagoa: (1) Negotiate for the lowest price possible. Insist on 100 or 150. For them, sex is better if they can be proud they got a bargain. (2) Say (without asking!) 200 -- and 19 out of 20 will accept. For them, this smooth process is more relaxing and seems less commercial. Quick and easy. At the current great exchange rate, why quibble over 50 reals? (3) Ask the GP! Given this opportunity, many GPs will of course try for more than 200. So these clients now either have to make the GP lose face and bargain them down to accept less -- or pay the higher asking price. I don't see any advantages in this approach but apparently many clients use it.

And the mocking begins. 😥 But, hey, I may try it if I get desperate.

Thanks for the Fortaleza update. I'll be there December 14-24 and now I'm eager to try Dragon since you (and previously CGNfunguy1992) say it has more action these days -- as well as return to California, rundown as it may be.

Thanks for the Recife report. At the risk of ridicule, let me ask a remedial question: How did you identify the GPs at Thermas Boa Vista? When I visited on a crowded Saturday night last June, the place was packed with handsome guys in their 20s and 30s aggressively cruising each other, along with some older guys, most trying to get lucky with a castoff younger guy. For my first time ever, I could never crack the code to find even one GP. 😬 Maybe only a few GPs that night and they were all taken? I have to rule out my fantasy explanation that they could not imagine that I would be paying. Is there a corner of the facility where the GPs tend to hang out?

Awesome. Can you please post about your tips and experiences in places rarely discussed here? I have posted about a few less common (third-tier) destinations, such as Campo Grande and Goiânia, as well as second-tier cities (e.g., Fortaleza, Belo Horizonte, Porto Alegre). But it would be great if you can offer insights into places like Maceió, Aracaju, São Luís, Barreirinhas, Jericoacoara, Teresina, Belém!

Yes, 117 closes on Monday. So the party moves to 202 which has no competition that night. This past Monday 202 had a fairly good crowd, although not many stunning GPs.

Wow PAULEIRO, more epic informative posts❗ Many thanks ❗ You get more reconnaissance done in a week than I do in a month. After your posts about FCK Party, I wanted to click 😱. Administrators here need to add that option! Sad, confused, and haha did not do it. Needed 😱 And FCK Party has a "Fisting Station"!? Had to laugh thinking about the omelette stations at brunch.

Pixu seems to be a newbie and he asked about the two GP saunas. If he is indeed new to SP, I think Lagoa is the easiest and safest venue (and with clean beds). But sure, he can search for those other places too.

By the way, Lagoa is a frequent topic here, so just use the Search function. For 2024 so far, you'll get these 90 links for all sorts of recent details, tips, and viewpoints about Lagoa: https://www.gayguides.com/forums/search/?&q=Lagoa&search_and_or=or&start_after=year&updated_after=year

And 555 (the Fragata replacement) is "temporarily closed." https://maps.app.goo.gl/7cjowQaoHwnxBCCk8

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Thanks! Maybe I'll try Dragon again when I'm in Fortaleza in December.

So Dragon Sauna -- which is usually nearly empty according to numerous reports -- was actually quite busy on a Sunday afternoon (around 6pm)?! That is big news. Did you happen to hear about any other times when it is popular? Second question: You also went to Dragon on a Monday (guessing from your earlier post) at 5pm and there were "already a few GPs there." So, 4 or 5 GPs? Last question please: For at least a period of time a year or two ago, Dragon Sauna was requiring fingerprints for entry! Were fingerprints still demanded?

I'll look forward to your next shagalogue, and, since you asked, I'll vote for a new thread. It's easy to get carried away with the many temptations of Rio, so be super careful if you are only halfway through recovery of your quad surgery, so many complications can arise!

Thanks for the Fortaleza update. I'll be returning there in seven weeks, so good to know the sauna scene is unchanged -- and to get the tip on the cinema. Other than the appealing blue skies and nice beach cafe, any significance to the Praia do Futuro photo?

And this was the Copacabana Palace! Who knew that $500+ a night did not include reliable AC and electricity!?

Wow, not many men would be willing to share such a brutal critique of themselves from a GP! Thanks for sharing. Still it surprises me that for 1,000 reals he would no longer accept a warm room without food, water, gel, condoms, or round-trip Uber, plus the client's extended non-ejaculating sex. Seems like this "very handsome" GP must be in high demand. May I ask, what has he been getting paid in the sauna?

Yago, when I wrote about SP and PA, I meant São Paulo and Porto Alegre. But you are right that the two letter abbreviation for Pará is indeed PA. I did visit Belém, the capital of Pará, but that was 20 years ago. And since it was 20 years ago, I did OK at the GP-free sauna. But no recent Pará news to contribute. Maybe somebody else can give us an update. Later this year I plan to visit Aracaju (in Sergipe) and Maceió (in Alagoas) along the coast between Recife and Salvador. I'd love to get any tips or advice on those places.

The definitive post on price variation, IMHO: https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/60821-lagoa/?do=findComment&comment=407388 To which I'll add: Portuguese fluency and random variation in small samples.

Sauna sex only for me, plus the occasional Uber driver. Lagoa for 50 minutes, although sometimes I take one guy for half an hour and then grab a second for the final 20 minutes. Cabin times are shorter in Rio. Yes, if they are watching the clock that would be annoying. I set the alarm on the phone so I won't run over and have to pay for the room twice because of extra five minutes of cuddling. Hope you had fun at Point tonight!!! 🤞

Sorry to hear that. I have not read all of your impressive thousands of posts (!!!) but the many hundreds I have read have always been informative and very interesting. It must be frustrating to actually be living in Rio and feeling as though "everything" now sucks. Sensitive guy that I am, I know how even a couple of disappointing experiences can sour my mood. However, I was in Brazil for seven weeks during June and July in Rio, SP, and PA, and never had a guy try to jack up the price after our agreement. And while Rio/SP saunas did have more toned "models" a decade ago, I still had good to great romps every night with enthusiastic GPs. Maybe I had a really lucky streak. The only GPs I've encountered post-pandemic who wanted to renegotiate were a few in Cartagena, Colombia in 2021. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Colombia is fun to explore but for me Brazil is still easily number one.

I've visited Belo Horizonte four times over the past twenty years and usually found it interesting. However, I made the mistake once of visiting during its intense, nonstop, rainy season. Belo Horizonte has several gay saunas but only two that (to the best of my knowledge) have regular GPs. Sauna Olimpo BH Rua dos Timbiras, 2635 - Santo Agostinho, Belo Horizonte https://maps.app.goo.gl/VpAaetLLPUHtmaLm7 Yes, anywhere from five to 15 GPs, some quite hot, on the evenings I visited. An unexpected amount of client-client action that was fun. A thread here a year or two ago said Olimpo was experimenting with nonGP nights, but I do not have an update on that. Sauna 1097 Rua dos Guajajaras, 1097 - Centro, Belo Horizonte https://maps.app.goo.gl/ubWZgYacwTpENasn7 A few blocks away from Olimpo is 1097. Yes, seedy Sauna 1097 is, as XPaulo wrote, rundown with skinny rough GPs who he liked but were not for me. Ouro Preto is indeed the most famous colonial town in the state of Mina Gerais. It is about 60 miles away and definitely worth a day trip, IMHO. Hope your visit turns out to be enjoyable.

In years past, yes. Have you been able to do this smoothly in the past few years in Brazil? Since about 2020, a Brazilian SIM for tourists has been a huge hassle with Claro, etc. in my experience. So that makes the five easy minutes needed to set up an e-SIM the clear choice for me.

Agree. Excellent and identical experience with Airalo's e-SIM. It has worked beautifully for me in a dozen cities all around Brazil during my past two trips -- everywhere except in distant rural areas of the Pantanal. You do have to be careful to only stream videos with Wi-Fi of course, otherwise vids will rapidly devour your maximum prepaid e-SIM.