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From an economic standpoint, Rio can probably maintain two distinctly different rentboy saunas: one for regular looking, Twinkier, more attainable guys and another for higher-end, supermodel-y, less attainable guys. The problem with a place like Point 202, especially in a struggling economy, is that, in the face of the more successful 117, it could not market itself as anything distinctive. There simply aren't enough paying customers to go around. 117 established itself as the brand for muscular supermodel garotos, and 202 was left with trying to brand and re-brand itself. Those of us with marketing backgrounds and MBAs may find this kind of shop talk more interesting, but I find the writing of the rentboy sauna obituaries a bit premature. I doubt the days of 6 rentboy saunas will be returning (arguably, that was market oversaturation, and their closings could simply have been market correction), but it's not economically unreasonable to think that the metro area of Rio can keep supporting two different rent boys in two different parts of town with two very different demographics. The same for São Paulo, Salvador and Recife. NOTE: the world-famous straight brothels / saunas / spas in Rio, like Centaurus and Termas Monte Carlo, have been going throwing economic growing / shrinking pains as well.

I started working on Wall Street in 1992. Cats, The Gaiety, Stella's and the Show Palace in Times Square, and Rounds and the Townhouse on the UES were the places for hustlers. Some places in the Village were also around, but the names escape me. Giuliani got into office in January 1994 and almost immediately, Rounds (which was the gold standard for hustlers and escorts) was shut down. By the end of 94, Cats was done. Show Palace was shuttered towards the end of 1995. Stella's and Gaiety held in there until the end of Giuliani's reign of terror, but the first term of the Bloomberg administtatioj finished the job of Disney-fying all of Times Square, and un-gaying The West Village.

I can't speak for Numbers in LA, but I definitely know about The Gaiety, Stella's, Cats, Rounds and the hustler bars of yore in NYC. The internet didn't shut them down. The policies of Mayor Rudy Giuliani did.

Wow. She's stunning! What a great businesswoman, too.

If you're into white or white-looking guys, Porto Alegre is going to have far more of them, since it's in the Southern region, where the Germans, Italians and Polish ended up.

Having a gun and drawing one are two different things. Police carry guns visibly all the time.

They would've been vilified, treated like animals. Calls for them to be held in American jails would've been loud as church bells. Their reputations, as well as that of the country they represent, would've been dragged across the mud. Endless discussions about how "those kinds of people" behave like animals, etc.

This was no robbery. If it were a robbery, the 4 entitled white American pricks wouldn't have gotten back to the Olympic Village with their smartphones, their watches, their jewelry and enough money to take a cab back, then grinning like Cheshire cats and patting each other on the backs like they got away with some caper when they returned. The film footage doesn't lie. Furthermore, the independent eyewitness who acted as the translator during the incident stated that there was no gun drawn on the swimmers, and that the swimmers were the ones who begged for the gas station workers not to call the police (for fear that they would certainly get into trouble): http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ryan-lochte-robbery-story-translator-opens-up-brazil-incident/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=27866056

So, it looks like I was right. The US swimmers made up the story about being stopped in their taxi and robbed at gunpoint by fake police. Turns out that the privileged entitled "ugly American" pricks (led by 32-year-old Ryan Lochte, who already had a reputation for being a knucklehead) got into a fight and damaged a gas station bathroom door, paid cash for the damage and fled the scene of the crime before the Brazilian police could arrive. It wasn't hookers, but it was worse because these are actual crimes in Brazil. "The entire episode, Winter said, “has tapped into one of Brazilians’ biggest pet peeves — gringos who treat their country like a third-rate spring break destination where you can lie to the cops and get away with it.” " http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/19/sports/olympics/police-say-ryan-lochte-lied-about-gunpoint-assault.html

Could it be that the drunken entitled lads spent all their money on hookers at a brothel, missed Olympic Village curfew, and needed to make up a story that just so happened to defame an entire nation? "The men, who said they were intoxicated upon leaving the party, said they could not remember the color of the taxi they took, or where exactly the assault took place. Investigators have been unable to find the taxi driver who delivered the swimmers back to the Olympic Village." http://nyti.ms/2bcT0gi

The salient part of the story right here. Investigative tip: find the cab driver. Protip for newbies: hire a driver for your stay. "The American swimmers robbed on Sunday were leaving a party at Club France, the French hospitality house established during the Rio Games in the upscale Lagoa neighborhood, the U.S. Olympics spokesman said." I read in another article that the athletes are told not to leave Olympic Village. BTW, Olympic Village is in Barra Da Tijuca which is a 30 minute drive from the Lagoa / Copacabana / Ipanema neighborhoods in Zona Sul. So, if they took a cab there, unless they knew the driver, they hopped in a car with an unknown driver -- who might be in the area looking for unsuspecting "rich" foreigners there for the Olympics, and would just so happen to drive them into a trap.

So now you finally reveal your REAL issue with Rio. The kinds of men you prefer aren't readily available to you. So you can stop with the preachy tone, Judge Judy McJudgerson.

And this kind of violence against gays happens in the USA. So are you going to avoid American vacations? http://huff.to/1ZIucNk

You would be going there on vacation and staying in tourist areas. I seriously doubt you'd encounter anything close to being that dark of an experience. Also, that same shit happens here in parts of the good old USA. Why would Ellen Page go to Ipanema Beach dressed in all black like some goth girl?

One of my good friends in Rio just told me (English translation): "Yes. It is a lot of responsibility. It is as if you are the father .Plenty of expenses. Helps with some college expenses and other things that can help."

Not good news, although one case certainly is not scientifically conclusive.

It's also about saving face for the Summer Olympics. After that, the crash.

There are plenty of non-garoto (no working boy) saunas in Brazil. Just go to those if that's what you're interested in.

The gain on the real is artificial. They're trying to prop it up for as long as they can, perhaps until after the Olympics. Brazil's bubble is about to burst and burst big. I'm waiting for the real estate prices to drop like stones.

I know this questions has been answered by some posters before, so maybe another regular poster can recall. It might be one of the tacked threads about rates. Everything is negotiable but since most of them might think that by cumming that is knocking them out of business for s good portion of the night, maybe the price of two or so sessions? You'll probably come out better if its toward the end of theI honestly don't know. I don't really care if the guy cums for me and it doesn't get me off. The ones that have done it with me did it on their own volition. I hope this helps. Maybe someone else has more info.

I enjoyed reading about your experience. Everyone's mileage may vary, but Rio G Spa really does very little for me. The kinds of guys there seem very average compared to the rentboy saunas of 117 and 202. I realize that average in Rio may be considered better than most other places, though. I am into very muscular men. As I said, your mileage may vary. Carnaval, however, might bring in a bigger, better crowd at Rio G than just the average local. That's certainly something to consider. Regarding your 117 guy who seemed distant after the deed and didn't cum with you, most of the garotos won't cum unless they're paid more or if it's close to the end of the night. They need to get back out on the showroom floor and perform for more clients. Don't take it personally. It's not about you. Rio (most of Brazil) certainly does make you want to move there after visiting. But as the saying goes, "don't quit your day job!"

Those travelers who already may be immune-compromised in some way, such as HIV, cancer, flu or perhaps on some antibiotics, treatment or treatment that could affect the immune system, might be more at risk of developing Guillain-Barré. I am certainly not a physician, but I would recommend that anyone who is already immunocompromised including those who are asymptomatic to consult with their physician before making a trip to any place where the mosquitoes that transmit Zika virus (which might cause Guillain-Barré syndrome) are prevalent.

I'm sure you intended no harm by this, but I just wanted to point out to you that Salvador is certainly NOT a "second tier city". It's the 3rd largest city in Brazil, the former capital of Brazil, and the one of oldest cities in the Western Southern Hemisphere. OTOH, Porto Alegre, which you listed as a first-tier city along with São Paulo and Rio, is the only 10th largest city in Brazil. It's frustrating to see someone describe Salvador as second-tier especially when juxtaposed against PA. Of course, the former is more black and Afro-Brazilian, while the latter has more white-looking Brazilians.

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The last time I was there in Santo Domingo, that brothel was still open. It's on the northwest side of Independence Park about a block and a half up. I'm not a fan of the place, because the kinds of guys I like never seem to be there (muscular types). I can do much better on the streets or in the bars and clubs, but I can understand why someone who might not be as proactive as I am or who might like the average boy off the street type would prefer this brothel. There is also the sauna / bathhouse called Apolo Spa that is non-rentboy although there is usually a masseur there (as to how far you can go, your mileage may vary). The facility is very nice, modern and clean, but again, no hustlers or rentboys. It's in the Colonial Zone just one block south of the Conde, on the same street as the 2 gay nightclubs and the gay hotel Adam Suites which is across from the 2 nightclubs.