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Based on my direct experience over several years, I entirely disagree. I’m pretty limited in my taste and options. I’m a lazy selfish top with a dominant streak. I lust for handsome muscleboy-bottoms (aged 21-33) with a submissive streak. And I’ve had great success playing with handsome fit-bodied South Africans. Mainly I met them at the gyms in Cape Town, occasionally in bars and to a very limited extent, some years ago, online using Gaydar and Manhunt. Most guys were very happy to play with a fit older man. I didn’t offer, and they did not ask for, cash but I would routinely pay for drinks and dinner. I’d also invite them on side-trips or days out and of course I’d pay all the bills. And if a guy was going home late at night, I’d always pay for Uber or a taxi. I am NOT passing judgement on your experiences, as detailed above, @Canadianbtmguy but to me, your actions are very high-risk and reckless. I hope that you richly rewarded the hotel reception staff for their helpful interventions.

Yes. And No to your ‘wonder” - at least, not on the premises. Perhaps if you are personable (also attractive and generous), you might meet one of the dancers post-shower. Then you might arrange to spend some private time together in your hotel room.

Thanks for your posts @travguy and for writing such detailed reports. May I ask you to expand on this observation you made. I ask because I’m a top only. I really enjoy kissing and topping a guy, and I love getting sucked off. I especially value a guy who sucks me to completion and, as I find it so hot, swallows my load. Do I take it from what you write that none of the many working guys you saw wanted to provide full service? Was that a matter of price and you simply didn’t want to pay more? Or is it that the men define themselves as ‘str8’ so they are horny and happy to be sucked by a guy, but to suck another man’s cock would be ‘gay’? Or is it that the age-gap between you and them was too great? Or not great enough? I’m intrigued because years ago as a middle-aged man, I had fun with younger Greek men (mid 20s to early 30s). I’ve played with three different Greek guys in London. They were not working guys and each was happy to perform fully. In Athens itself, I had several dates with a versatile Greek muscleboy who was happy to please me in bed, and I was keen to keep him happy by paying for dinner & drinks.

This made me laugh. Perhaps you haven’t visited and spent much time in Australia? I like the country very much and visit every year. When others ask me about it, I always describe it as the most heavily urbanised nation on earth with almost all the population confined to a few coastal cities and towns. You may not have noticed the wild fires in recent years but are you aware of the earthquakes? In the years I lived in San Francisco, I experienced two significant ‘quakes….I was glad I lived in a house and not a high-rise.

Bear in mind that Georgia has very strong anti-drug laws that are strictly enforced. Even if you have only prescribed items with you, check online beforehand that they are permitted.

Thanks for posting your report on the trip and your photos @PeterRS They brought back good memories for me of my various long stays in Latin America.

It’s interesting to see your pics and to learn of the current FX rates to the $ @Latbear4blk But I’d like to know the current prices locally for meals in Palermo and Recoleta. As a frequent middle-class visitor, I’ve rarely done self-catering. What interests me is having a decent lunch in a good cafe, and a steak dinner with a bottle of Malbec in a good restaurant. Please would you indicate the likely costs of say lunch for 1 and dinner for 2 people. Incidentally, locals always warned me against taking the Subte. They said pickpocketing was rife on crowded trains.

I had this situation happen once. Short answer: speak up, say what you want and enjoy (are paying for). Long answer: see below. Some years back, I met a very handsome guy (Italian/Latin mix) with a beautifully muscled body. On our first date he was a passionate lover and he did everything I enjoy in bed. I quickly hired him for a regular, overnight date: we’d have full sex before eating, I’d take him out to dinner and I’d top him again before sleeping; on waking, he’d suck me off to completion and he’d take me out to breakfast. After 8-9 dates, I noticed that he wasn’t always swallowing my load in the morning. Then he became less keen to suck me off in the mornings (excuses were we’d slept late, he had to get to the gym etc). So I raised this with him. I told him I enjoyed his company and I loved having sex with him, but the fee we’d agreed was for us having sex 3x a night, not 2x a night. I said I didn’t want to renegotiate what we did but… He said he didn’t always feel like it in the morning… I checked around and found his fee for an overnight was very reasonable (about half what other less handsome guys charged) and so we settled into a routine of 2x a night. He made love to me with renewed passion and vigour the next several times.

I think that has always been the case - the fee is for the work in processing the application and is not a “success” fee.

That is the most relevant comment. I’ve travelled extensively in Latin America and in Africa: large populations with rapid growth in numbers means high unemployment and no or very little social security. So many people have very little, not even “a few hundred USDs per month”.

It is very sad. It happens too often to gay men. It’s why I stay only in places in Latin America that have strict security and check the ID of visitors. That’s not enough @pirocafan in my view. If you plan to invite a new guy back home with you, I strongly urge you to tell the man beforehand that your hotel (or AirBnB building) has strict security - he will only be allowed to enter or leave when you are with him to vouch for him.

I’m so sorry @young11 that this reading forced itself upon you. Information like that should be restricted 😎 Both Montjuic and Hyde Park cover a huge area. While it’s entirely possible that a horny guy in either city might visit the park in the hope of meeting a like-minded man, there’s no regular cruising in either place (AFAIK). Even decades ago, when society was less liberal, Hyde Park had only occasional cruising outdoors. Those who wanted to meet off-duty horny soldiers preferred to visit a couple of pubs nearby. You may have better luck in the Summer months, but you’d have to exercise a good deal of caution. And with your expressed desire for “straight, inexperienced Arabs”, you may have to be extra-careful that you don’t attract a homophobic attack.

May I just ask you to clarify @Riobard. Is the above related to your stay in São Paulo (not Rio)? And the space referred to is Lagoa?

Look up on social media the guys who interest you greatly. Send a polite DM stating your ‘generous’ desire to meet IRL. Many will respond if you’re polite and friendly. Then make your dates. Remember that BelAmi men have not only heard it all before (so don’t promise what you can’t deliver) but also they know their worth (so don’t try to be cheap). Genuine BA men very rarely advertise in their own country or home town. So if you spot such an advert, be wary of a fake.

The short answer must be “It depends on the person you find attractive”. A rapid solution would be to ask the guy you like how much he needs to earn that evening, and offer to pay him that for his exclusive attention. A new guy may be very happy to hang out with you all evening with you paying for all drinks etc as well as the fee you agreed with him beforehand. An experienced guy, who has regular clients, may not want to spend much of the evening with you. He may not want to risk disappointing his regulars by being exclusively with you. Maybe you should ask this question of a guy you really like and want to spend extended time with. Just decide what you’re willing to pay and how long you’d like to be there, so you can ask something like ‘How much will it cost if we have 2 programs and spend 2 hours extra just talking, drinking etc?’