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We have an abundance of riches in Guvs. And Newsom, Whitmer, Shapiro, or Moore, to name four, are probably more likely to be able to unify the party than Rahm or Andy. But who knows? I don't think it's possible to guess yet what voters will be in the mood for after four full years of this train wreck. But it won't be Trump.

A few heartening interviews and articles about ascendant moderate Democrats: I absolutely love every moment of that interview. Particularly the part where Rahm states that the tens of millions of Americans who were screwed by globalization or left behind have every right to be furious. Of course, when he runs for POTUS he will also argue that these Trump voters have every right to be furious at Trump for trying to take their Obamacare away in 2017. And (possibly) taking their Medicaid away in 2025 to pay for Elon Musk's tax cuts. The insolent stupid pig Donald "Judas" Trump is way more stupid than Rahm. And I love it that Rahm attacks Democrats as too weak and too woke, and Trump as a corrupt man guilty of betrayal. Trump is the Judas of America. Betraying the working class that trusted him, betraying democracy, betraying Ukraine, and empowering Putin and Xi. I still have high hopes our stupid POTUS pig will find his sorry ass in jail before his destructive and narcissistic life ends. Compared to Rahm, our handsome Kentucky country boy comes off like a pussy cat: Andy Beshear has some advice for Dems on hammering Trump over tariffs I think the idea that the Guv of Kentucky or a loud-mouthed moderate Jew from Chicago, both White men, will be the Democratic nominee of 2028 is quite a stretch. But, at the very least, they will both add to a loud debate that will move the party to the center. And refocus it on the working class and away from culture wars. Good luck, guys!

It means protection of Ukrainian men, women, and children from Putin's genocide. Something you could obviously give a flying fuck about, in your own words. Trump could give a flying fuck about it to. Nor could you give a flying fuck about the absence of democracy in Genocide World. You come here to support genocide, and the mass murder of Ukrainian men, women, and children by Genocide Men. You attack efforts by Ukraine to defend itself from genocide. You are Putin's Genocide Fan.

Talk about blaming the victim! May as well go back to Trump claiming Ukraine started the war with Russia. How long did Trump's lame ass pro-authoritarianism lie last? You fail to mention that the banning of political parties occurred in March 2022. Geez, what happened then? Let me think. Hmmmmm. Oh, that's right. GENOCIDE MAN STARTED A GENOCIDE IN UKRAINE. Your murderous leader started killing Ukrainians. Shocking how Ukraine tried to defend itself from Genocide Man, isn't it? Good luck sorting your way through that. Who knows what is true and what is lies made up by spies on one side or the other? What we do know is that Putin's whole life is about spies, deception, killing opponents, and now genocide. I can see why Ukrainians would be concerned about political parties aligned with the country and leader that started a genocide against them. If you are so concerned about democracy, why not call off the war, let Ukraine have an election to join NATO and the EU, and let Russia have an election where all the real political opponents of Putin are not all killed or jailed?

Interesting interview you posted . Who dies in the end has been relatively predictable, I think. It is the logical conclusion of who is spiraling out of control all season. In Season 1 it was clearly Armand, although Tanya was a nut case as well. She got hers in Season 2. The confusing thing about Season 3 is that both Tim and Rick seemed to be nut jobs spiraling toward their inevitable demise. So which one would it be? Mike White cleverly did both in, in a way. It's just that one was imaginary, and the other real. Which also feeds into Mike White's main theme: money rules, and corrupts. Of course the nut job with the most money would live. Despite the fact that he fantasized about killing his entire family, and almost pulled it off. It's hard to see Chelsea as a nut job spiraling out of control. But that article you posted makes the case as well as it can be made, in the words of the actor who played her. Another comment I read somewhere summed it up as a great example of how women who try to fix broken men always end up getting hurt in the end. I did feel the finale of this season was lame compared to the first two. I think its because Armand and Tanya's deaths were played for laughs. I saw it as a Gay man doing satire about The Evil Gays. And I loved it as such. This was more like a Shakespearean tragedy. Nothing wrong with that. But I like my Evil Gays better, sorry to say. We didn't even get Lochlan as the incestuous demon twink, as it turned out. Exactly WTF is an Evil Gay gonna do for comedy now? 🙄 On that note, I do have a few recommendations for Season Four. Parker Posey is the new Jennifer Coolidge, both Gay icons. So to be fair to The Evil Gays, Mike White has to bring Victoria back next season and kill her off. The easiest way is for her to dump Tim and find another rich guy. I'd suggest Saxon, who could simply take over the family business. At least Mike White could finally deliver on all the teasing about incest. 🤑🤢🤑 And maybe Lochlan could be the new Greg, who likes to watch his Mom and brother get off!

I'm happy to take a hit for being less than perfect in backing Lichtman, until he was proven wrong this time. It's off topic. But the question of why a smart guy like Lichtman was wrong this time is interesting I still think his theories make sense. Of the 11 elections he predicted in advance, Lichtman got 9 right. The 2 he was wrong on - Gore in 2000 and Harris in 2024 - were both close races. His retrospective predictions going back to the Civil War of who should have won, based on his Keys, were also wrong twice: 1876 and 1888. The 1888 race is interesting because it also involved tariffs. And the only other incumbent POTUS to lose re-election, Grover Cleveland, who then came back from the dead to win a second term four years later. Remember, the co-author of the Keys theory was a Russian expert who loved peace and democracy. Oh, the good old days! When Vlad was a good guy! Vladimir Keilis-Borok Where I really part company with Lichtman is his own very defensive analysis of why he was wrong in 2024. He's essentially arguing voters were stupid, and they fell for all kinds of disinformation by Trump. Kind of like Old Joe arguing voters didn't understand how great Bidenomics was for their pocketbook. What I like the most about his Keys is that they argue democracy matters, and voters are smart. (Not really something that has ever been proven in Genocide World, I know.) So I would argue that in 2024 voters were smart. They recoiled from inflation and high prices. So I think Lichtman got his short-term economy key wrong. Technically, there was not a recession. But poll after poll showed that people felt like there was one. Lichtman split the difference on his foreign policy keys by calling Gaza a military loss for Biden but Ukraine a military victory. That is debatable, of course. Change those two keys and it would have predicted a narrow Trump victory instead. Or, in short, history is complicated. None of this bodes well for Trump. 1. If the election were held today, Trump would do even worse on the short-term economy key. He promised to lower prices. Smart voters understand that he will instead raise prices through unpopular tariffs. 2. Americans started out unified behind Ukraine, but by 2024 were divided on partisan lines. We can thank our lying traitorous Donald "Judas" Trump for turning Republicans against Ukraine and the defense of democracy, in the US or elsewhere. But as much as Americans were gradually divided on the Ukraine War, they are already unified in their repulsion of Trump's global trade war. It is a disaster that hurts democracy, hurts capitalism, and only helps Xi and Genocide Man. 3. Democrat Cleveland won the popular vote in 1888 by defending consumers and explaining that tariffs hurt them. But he lost the electoral college, because Republican Harrison had the strong backing of pro-tariff industrialist fat cats. Sound familiar? Four years later Democrat Cleveland came back to win, still arguing - with plenty of evidence - that Republican tariffs that helped people like Elon Musk and other rich donors hurt the working class. Sound familiar? The insolent pig Trump is a stupid, stupid, stupid pig who understands neither the economy nor history.

How appropriate you defend the lying barking dog. You at least appear to be defending the lying barking dog by posting thread titles that didn't quite nail what actually happened. Okay, mea culpa. I am less than perfect. But I was not spreading lies like the lying barking dog comes here to do. It is ironic. Genocide Man is a fountain of lies. Starting with his dismissal of any notion that he kills all his political opponents in Russia. And his lie that Ukrainians he mass murders actually want to be part of Genocide World. And his lie about stealing the children of Ukraine after murdering their parents. Although I must admit George W. Bush gave Murderous Vlad a run for his money with his WMD lies. Oh, the good old days! In fairness, I think most of what you say is factually correct. Or at least debatable. Even if it is mostly intended to support genocide, and attacks on democratic institutions and alliances.

Bonus question for 25 Trump Lies And Hate and Racism points Which Fake News DEI leader, who was only respected because he was a DEI Black piece of shit loser, sold Zelenskyy the platinum mine? A. Nelson Mandela B. Desmond Tutu C. Martin Luther King D. Any other useless stupid incompetent Black appointed by Joe Biden, such as DEI Veep Kamala Harris. The lying barking dog only comes here to spew lies and hate.

Bonus question for 10 bonus Trump Lies And Hate points. Which two Brady children died of the measles? The lying barking dog only comes here to feed us lies and hate.

I don't think anything will change until the midterms. Democrats will at least take back the House, more than likely. At that point a coalition of Democrats in the House and centrists in the Senate, including ones like Collins and Murkowski, can hold sway and keep Trump in check. Depending on how bad things get, Democrats maybe can turn the tide in rural and working class areas where we supposedly have no mojo anymore. The apt comparison to me is Sherrod Brown v. JD Vance. In 2024 Vance had the wind of voter anger at inflation at his back. Even so, he was on a ticket that barely won. Meanwhile, Sherrod Brown was finally taken down by an association with a party that is supposedly out of touch. Even though he basically did everything right when it comes to the working class - except being a Democrat. MAGA populism may lose its luster to rural and working class voters when it results in inflation and recession. The lesson is: be careful what you wish for. I just spent two weeks hiking in Utah and Arizona with one of my brothers, who I will call a McCain Republican. I recall in 2016 when he explained to me that he would vote for Trump, who he thought would be good for the economy, because it "will be interesting." My response at the time was that nuclear war would be interesting, too. But that doesn't mean I'd vote for it. By 2020 he voted for Biden, arguing that even though he still thought Trump was better for the economy, he had proven himself to be a "megalomaniac." In 2024 he bit his lip and voted for Harris, for the same reason. If Trump fucks up the economy, it takes away the one thing he barely had going for him. The insolent pig is stupid and weak. The stupid pig does not even understand that he is fucking up the one thing he had going for him. What a stupid, stupid, stupid pig!

It's the inflation, stupid! What is wrong with our insolent stupid racist POTUS pig? Why can't his deformed narcissistic pig brain understand this? It is not that difficult a concept. Even the elite media and terrified Republicans can get it right. ‘The opposite of what Americans voted for’: Market turmoil causes Trump backlash With the markets in chaos as a result of Trump’s tariffs, the president is facing the most sustained criticism of his term from within the GOP. It's the inflation, stupid! What is wrong with the insolent pig's stupid brain? Can't he fathom what voters are pissed about? The crude racist insolent pig Donald "Judas" Trump has been a racist his whole life, back to his filthy racist lies about the Central Park Five. The racist pig had a brief moment when Black and especially Hispanic and Asian Americans were open to him, due to well documented anger about too many high prices and too many undocumented immigrants in their communities. There is no question that working class Hispanics in particular lifted Trump to his narrow victory in 2024. So what does the racist insolent pig do? Attack diversity, dishonor Black Americans in particular, and RAISE PRICES. He has set the entire working class back, regardless of skin color. We now have equal opportunity in America. We all have the same opportunity to have a stupid racist insolent pig as President.

The insolent traitorous pig deserves to spend the rest of his useless pig life in jail. It ain't over til it's over. The pig may end up in a sty where he belongs before he wrecks America, democracy, and capitalism.

Once a stupid and weak insolent pig, always a stupid and weak insolent pig. Oink! Oink! Oink! Stupid worthless pig! Jamie Dimon calls out the weak and stupid insolent pig for destroying everything that makes America strong. But the narcissistic insolent pig is too stupid to get it. Larry Summers calls out the weak and stupid insolent pig. He says Trump saying tariffs are good for growth and stability is like saying avoiding vaccines is good for avoiding measles. But the stupid and insolent narcissistic pig is too vain and feeble minded to understand the concept. Oink! Oink! Oink! Stupid weak useless POTUS pig! Even Pig Ball Licker Ted Cruz thinks the weak and feeble and stupid pig is doing super dumb shit that is bad for America. Texas-sixed dumb shit to contrast with the weak and stupid insolent pig's small and useless pig brain. But Donald "Judas" Trump is simply a weak and stupid traitor. All the stupid and weak insolent pig is good at is licking the balls of Master Xi, and his genocidal pit bull Vlad. The stupid and insolent pig is too feeble-minded and weak to even understand he is making China and Russia stronger, and America and our allies weaker. Oink! Oink! Oink! The stupid and weak insolent pig is an embarrassment who is destroying everything he shits and pisses on. A truly worthless pig!

Once an insolent pig, always an insolent pig. My quote of the day is Jamie Dimon, hardly a socialist, saying Trump will ruin economic alliances it took a century to build. He bankrupted all his pig-like piece of shit Trump scam companies, and now he is working on bankrupting the US. The insolent pig Donald "Judas" Trump is a traitor to all the principles America holds dear.

A sad last line. "Putin is on the wrong side of history. freedom. and human aspirations. The tragedy is that now the United States seems to have joined his side."

Nope. I'll thank you for being such a fierce advocate of democracy and human rights in Ukraine. You'll stop at nothing to save the lives of Ukrainian women and children. And whenever global experts want informed analysis on democracy, they always turn to @Moses for insight. Politico, which would not be allowed to flourish by your genocidal monster, has already been attacked by our traitorous insolent pig. No wonder why! You might read a few of their articles and learn something. They write, and think, a hell of a lot better than ChatGPT.

We Dug Into the Polls. Democrats in Congress Should Be Very Afraid. Every once in a while there is some new conventional wisdom that the media clings to, despite the fact that it is wildly untrue. In 2006, the mass media helped build the argument that home prices never go down. In 2010, they all said home prices will never go up again. (Tell THAT to pissed off Zoomers). In 2010, they were saying that austerity was in and the rich would now hide their wealth. Tell that to Donald Trump and Elon Musk. But many of these ridiculous myths are political. In 2008, the Republican Party was dead. Until 2010, it turned out. Now the Democratic party is dead. Despite actually netting one US House seat in 2024. I love it that all the right wing media that populate the MAGA universe think that they are above the MSM. Even as they act just as stupid as the MSM. They more than anyone else are celebrating the stupid idea that the Democratic Party is doomed or dead, as Trump's approval continuously ticks down. Poor things! If Trump simply ate a few House Republicans that pissed him off, Democrats would have a House majority. Poor Mike Johnson. Best not hang out in the White House kitchen, Mike. Maybe Hannibal Trump will turn some weak and fawning Republicans like you into Southern fried chickens. I get the argument that Schumer is a wimp. But I also get the Politico argument that Schumer is pretty good at one thing: winning. New York politics is a blood sport. And he always survives. It seems like the best solution to the Democrats' problem now is just that: winning. I am glad Democrats are enraged and pissed. As the article argues, it will hopefully lead to lots of good upheaval in the Democratic Party. Just like it did to Republicans after 2008. Which, by the way, WAS a real landslide. Schumer and Democrats need to let Hannibal Trump and Elon Lector go right ahead and eat lots of Republicans alive. I know, it's gross. But who ever accused Trump or Musk of having good taste? My beloved Sister In Cock @Suckrates just posted about how The Homophobic Bitch from Wyoming is whoring for Musk and pissing her own voters off by defending cuts to government programs that help Wyoming. Great! But I don't understand why they let them leave the town hall, instead of chopping them up for some exotic dinner for Musk at the White House. But they'll get there eventually, I'm sure. They're not against SNAP or Medicaid or veterans. They're just against waste, fraud, and abuse. So they just have to figure out whether the working class Republicans they will dine on are waste, fraud, or abuse. Recall that Wyoming is the state that just handed Liz Cheney her head on a silver platter a few years ago. Yummy! 🤢 So apparently they can do without the Cheney wars. But not without their government benefits. One great thing about that article is that I think it tells Democrats exactly what we need to do, at least at an abstract level. Someone like Trump needs to come along, throw the pieces of the Democratic coalition up in the air, see where they land, and then put them back together in a different way. We'll see if Democrats can do better than the insolent, stupid pig. Since he is insolent and stupid, I think we can. The thing I worry about is that Democrats may be dumber than Dorothy. And we won't figure out that we really don't need to look any further than our own back yard. The back yard of the US has a name, by the way: Mexico. In Mexico, you could run a country beset by COVIDflation, which killed incumbents all over the world. And yet you could still win in a landslide with a lefty woman of color. How? You just had to fight like hell for the working class every single fucking day, and mean it. AMLO did. The voters loved it. Not that Democrats need to worry about what Latinos think, right? Republicans mock the idea that we would help the poor or the working class by simply putting money in their hands. But, in fact, AMLO just put money in their hands. Funny how everyone likes more money, just like Elon Musk. I was a whining bitch when Democrats let those expanded child tax credits expire in 2021. But guess what? They put money in the hands of tens of millions of Black, Hispanic, and White working class families. Remember? All those people who voted for Trump because they were pissed about prices, and Biden's perceived failure to do anything about it?. If some Democrat like AMLO or Claudia comes along, the insolent pig's party will be the one that gets slaughtered. The big problem in my mind is whether the money whores in the Democratic Party will tolerate it. Because working class fighters are the Democrats who will rob from the rich and actually put money in the hands of the working class. Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, two of the biggest money whores in Congress, are gone. And Trump's money whores, led by Musk, are pissing people off. It is time for Democrats to fight about who the fuck we are actually fighting for. If Democrats can not be at least as smart as Dorothy - or Claudia - it is our own damn fault.

Great theory. Except when The Divine Miss Graham is involved, it is never a secret. Bless her heart! She just can't keep her lips or her anus sealed.

"Incestuous demon twink." I love that phrase. I have four brothers, and I am Gay. Somehow I think I missed my potential. 🤮 But the question of the moment is: is Lochlan an incestuous demon twink? Part of the fun with White Lotus is speculating about things Mike White implies, but does not say. I have been following this Reddit thread that every week has a long discussion about the current episode. It's fun. People post things about the use of colors or symbols that I missed, or explain Thai cultural references that go over almost everyone's head. But someone this week started a lively discussion about whether meek and mild Lochy is the real predator, who pressured his hot brother to take some molly and make himself vulnerable to ......... I guess we'll see next week. Maybe just a kiss. Maybe more. So now there is all kinds of speculation about whether evil Gay Lochy is actually Gay, and actually evil. And will he take down his brother with a cum-filled, or poison-filled shake? (They are two different things, right?) 😉 Meanwhile, my sweet Straight sister-in-law told me her theory tonight: Lochlan is just a sweet kid who needs to be heard. She is probably right. Because Sam Nivola said just about that in an interview: Lochy is just seeking attention, desperately. And he does say this plot twist changes everything. So maybe he finds his voice. Or his cock. Or the gun. We'll see. Not to introduce a spoiler, but it is true that in the first two seasons the evil Gays were at the center of the murder that happened. That seemed impossible this season, since there is no one at least openly Gay. But Lochy and Fabian both emerged as dark horse candidates this week, I think. Even though we don't know yet whether they actually are Gay. I love it that Mike White, a Gay liberal like me, is just ripping the shit out of evil Gays and elitist liberals ..... and conservatives. It takes away some of the sting of Trump and MAGA trying to roll back the clock to 1980's racism and homophobia.

This is actually ironic and almost funny. Mike White should know about this evil Gay. Oh, that's right. She's not Gay. Call me stereotyped, but she sure looks like a feisty dike. Maybe the ultimate proof that she is a Straight cruel bitch is that she won't protect Gays and trans people, but she will protect the most vulnerable person in America: Elon Musk. Those White South African billionaires sure do get shit on, don't they? GOP lawmaker booed for DOGE defense at Wyoming town hall This is telling. The whole thing about the Tea Party protests in Iowa in 2009 was that these were people, in a state that lit a fire under Obama in 2008, saying we are afraid of government health care. It was Tea Party Republicans attacking Democrats. Well, now many of the same people don't want their government health care taken away. A lot of this is about Republicans attacking their own, because they don't want the shit that helps them and their community cut. Who ever would have guessed? This wave is gonna grow, baby, grow.

The insolent pig Trump was elected for one reason: inflation. And he has one mandate: lower prices. Like all insolent pigs, this POTUS pig is just stupid. But pigs can still be pigs. By all accounts people like Karl Rove and Chris LaCivita and Steve Bannon, Pig In Chief, will say Trump has excellent piggish political instincts. Which is true. It is like saying, "Trust me. I am an insolent pig and I know exactly how to slit your throat." This is what insolent pigs like Trump and Putin do. What else can one expect from traitorous and murderous insolent pigs? Trump has said he got elected due to inflation and immigration. LaCivita in a recent interview said it was basically thanks to inflation. Insolent pigs can do that much, and get 49.8 % of the vote. That said, Trump is proving by the day that he does not know how to run an economy. About three quarters of Americans expect prices to go up, in part thanks to tariffs. The number that expect prices to go down is in a single digit. So the stupid traitorous insolent pig can not do the one thing the insolent pig was hired to do. Meanwhile, our POTUS Pig Traitor's Ukraine policy is unpopular. If you are not in the MAGA cult, you clearly see that Trump is siding with Putin, a genocidal monster. in the latest YouGov poll, 47 % of voters disapprove and only 39 % approve of how he is handling Ukraine and Russia. Independents disapprove 50 %, compared to 30 % who approve. So the only reason Trump's Ukraine policy is not over 50 % disapproval yet is the MAGA true believers. The insolent traitorous pig Trump could hand Zelensky's head to Putin on a platter and the cult would approve and cheer.

On these polls showing how fucked Democrats are, I would strongly encourage our deeply stupid yapping dog and other obedient Pavlov's dogs to try really hard to just be a little less deeply stupid. There are not many polls now that show the generic Congressional ballot for 2026. One done in January by Trump's own pollster showed a dead heat between Democrats and Republicans. The two most recent ones both show Democrats in the lead, as Trump's "let's cut Medicaid" plans to reward his billionaire campaign donors like Elon Musk with tax cuts and political power play out. Trump is a rapist, a liar, a traitor, and an insolent pig. This is just going to get worse. He is a traitorous embarrassment to the US and the world. The anger and rage is only deepening by the day. So our deeply, pathetically stupid yapping dog and other Republicans out there really should be careful what they wish for. Because they are basically saying they are happy that many Democrats, not me, would love to see Chuck Schumer blow Trump's brains out. So that this traitorous, useless man had his shit brain splattered all over some wall, and America could move on. The rage is deep and just keeps growing. And poor Chuck Schumer just put himself in the path of it by doing something I thought was actually wise. Sorry, but Trump is in charge now. I don't see how a government shutdown helps show why having a competent government matters. So I am actually happy that many Democrats are enraged at the Democratic Party for ................ what? Not having the votes to beat Trump in the House or Senate? Sorry. We came very close. We actually won one House seat. But Schumer is basically next to powerless. If AOC wants change, she should buy a gun and blow Trump's brains out. Because right now that is about all Democrats can do. And, to be clear, I am not saying they should do that. But I am saying this is what is driving Democratic rage. They want Chuck Schumer or AOC or somebody to do things that they can't do. Either because they don't have the votes, or because these are things that don't happen in a democracy .... like blowing Trump's brain out. What our deeply stupid yapping dog does not seem to understand, because his mind if only conditioned to obey, is that this is not good news for Trump, or Republicans. You have a large group of Democrats who basically want Schumer to put a bullet in Trump's brain. So if anyone thinks that anger and rage will not be directed at Trump in 2026 and 2028, you better stop being so deeply stupid. I am feeling the vibe because I just spent the evening with one of my closest Gay friends, who 10 or 20 years ago was mostly apolitical. If I brought up W. or the Iraq War, he would politely yawn and change the subject. Now he is the one who brings up Trump. And the anger he feels in Trump going after HIV funding. And the anger he feels at his siblings who allowed this to happen by voting for Trump. The rage is strong, and getting stronger by the day. So if our stupid yapping dog feels that Trump is being wise by igniting rage among so many Americans who hate the America Trump wants us to be, they really should be careful. They will end up with the opposite of what they think they want. If you don't believe me, look at the election results for 2018 and 2020. Something much deeper than that is already brewing, only two months in. Sorry, yapping dog. You are adorable and cute. But you are deeply stupid. So you don't get a treat tonight. If you want to build massive indignation against Trump and MAGA, just keep doing exactly what you are doing.

2008 was around when I was being the best little volunteer ever for marriage equality. I will never forget getting political junk mail for Obama, who of course won. But also against the same sex marriage initiative in California, which of course narrowly lost, quoting Obama as being against same sex marriage. In fairness, he did not send out the mailers. But they quoted Obama in them, to undercut the same sex marriage side. And it worked. Many Gays and liberals view that as a judicial win. And it was, in that SCOTUS ultimately delivered a verdict. But even they were clear in interviews that they read the polls and saw where the public was headed. So I will always think of this as a massive grassroots victory of nobodys who poured their hearts out, and changed history. That is why we won, I think. The political leaders followed. Same way it has been on many other freedom and liberation issues. There is a quote from Jeb! that I love, and I think sums up the nature of the victory. That is so precisely correct. Jeb! could not fathom it. And yet we, The Gays, and our allies - which included liberals - did change thousands of years of culture and history.