Lucky

Who would have believed that Townsend P. Locke and I would be in Grand Rapids at all, not too mention at the same time? Unfortunately for me, he got all the cute boys before I had a chance.

Oh don't get snitty and make it a west coast thing. What if the gossip column announcing this arrest had been Perez Hilton, would you still have gone forward? The fact is that their are court records detailing the charges. No, they do not use Scott's escort name, but the fact is that most of us know his real name. Thus the court records would have met your criteria that the information be published before you let it be written about here. In fact, they are the most accurate records available. I realize that this whole situation has been difficult for you as administrator, but the criterion you have used for allowing it to go forward here just does not make sense. Even if it did, what justifies you using the pictures from the Village Voice? Do they add anything here? Finally, where is the concern for Scott's welfare? Is anyone wishing him well, offering to help him through this, or provide their own experience that might inspire him to rise above the problem? Are we here to take glee in his misfortune or to be saddened that one of our own is in trouble with the law? The fact is that few of us were going to hire Scott, so the information does not really help us make a more informed decision on that. So, I am still wondering why it is posted. Love, Lucky

So now are we free to discuss this issue at length simply because it was published in a New York weekly's gossip column? There are no facts here that we didn't know already, but simply publishing the facts makes it okay? Why was the court record not okay? It said the same thing. I am not defending Scott Adler's behavior, I am simply wondering why we want to now allow those who don't like him to go at it. If Scott publishes the list of his customers, can we talk about that as well? What if I say that an escort directly sold drugs to me, hand to hand, is that up for discussion? It's widely known that drugs are rampant in the gay community, and it follows that escorts probably use drugs, and it also follows that many clients use drugs with escorts. That would make for a more productive subject of conversation than the tale of one escort arrested for the same. Let's not vilify the one who got caught, because that's only the tip of the iceberg.

Surely you jest. Underage boys forced into sexual slavery may encourage you to visit, but most of us would not want to see this thrive.

TY, thanks for making the effort to explain the policy and let readers know why the thread was removed.

Oz, you are just all heart. You see Daddy at a point of weakness, and then, rather than act like a vulture swooping down on the wounded, you find the kindness in your heart to offer him a "good" monthly income in exchange...in exchange- you mean this is not an act of kindness? You want something? Oh, just the traffic from his site. I see. You might just get the Mother Teresa award if you don't stop being so kind.

The Ipanema Plaza is about the equivalent of a Motel 6. Crummy beds, thin sheets and towels and an indifferent staff. We went out and bought our own towels.

It is a trend, according to the SF Chronicle: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?.../LV2V18I8S6.DTL

I feel bad for Stu in that he didn't appreciate this thread but it seems to keep on churning. Don't worry about Daddy, btw, he has a great sense of humor and can give a big bellylaugh when his chain is being pulled. I'll make this my last post on this thread so we can move on. I do have boxes of pix of guys, many Asian, but I have never scanned them into the computer. If I can ever get away from posting long enough, maybe I will do that...

God knows I ignore him. Damn fool thinks that some lighthearted stuff can have a go over here. Doesn't he know that this is the serious board? By God, next thing he'll be posting pix of twinks, for chrissakes.

The New York Times featured several articles for gay pride week, one of which will please the Asian lovers here: http://travel.nytimes.com/2009/06/28/travel/28heads.html

Stu (the real one) suggests above that I am miffed at him. I am not. I thought he would get a kick out of my taking his enjoinment seriously but light-heartedly. Since he didn't, I hope he is not miffed at me. It was all meant to be in good fun. We have to remind ourselves not to take these boards too seriously. It's just a group of guys trying to have some good times. We tease, we prod, we provoke, and everybody gets their say. In the end, some nice camaraderie develops. I think...

Is Stu in a stew? Well, he can lay the blame at his own feet. Here's what he said: "I enjoin anybody who has in mind a frivolous topic for a thread to activate it." So I did. A thread by "a" Stu Cotts, not this one, seemed pretty frivolous to me. Read it in tandem with the other frivolous thread about "a" totallyoz on twitter. Nothing mean about it when I just took up his own suggestion. How was I to know he had no sense of humor?

Geez, grumpy, you want frivolous, I give you frivolous, and you are still not happy.

I haven't tried Twitter, and I doubt that I will, but you can follow (a) totally oz and see what he says moment to moment: Profile_bird Hey there! TotallyOz is using Twitter. Twitter is a free service that lets you keep in touch with people through the exchange of quick, frequent answers to one simple question: What are you doing? Join today to start receiving TotallyOz's updates.

Stu Cotts wanted less bleak topics discussed here, so what better to do than find one by a Stu Cotts? Posted by: Stu Cotts | Aug 23, 2006 5:16:47 PM Being a former TSA Officer I challenge everyone to step into the shoes of a TSA Officer and view those images. I'll bet eveen the best of you WILL FAIL!!! The TIPS images are a training tool developed to assist the officer in identifiying images to make them more proficient not to be perfect. The media is so quick to put blame on someboby, why don't you try praising the TSA Officers for a change. If it is so easy why don't YOU apply and see how easy it really is! I started with the agency from the begining and I will tell you this, not even the Federal Security Directors, the senior leadership of TSA nor the contractors who developed the system can get all the images, matter of fact they fail more than not. The one those TSA Officers do not need is the media always ragging them on the job they are doing. Why don't you, the media, pick on someone like let's say the oil companies for price gouging!

"I'm off this subject. It's just too bleak for a group called gay. I enjoin anybody who has in mind a frivolous topic for a thread to activate it." Well, gosh, just who started this bleak topic? And since when did we shy away from difficult subjects? Maybe I'll start a thread on train overpasses- that'll get this site hopping!

When I was young, I was pretty much the same way. When a 45 year old Asian hunk wanted to have sex with me, I was appalled. He was so old! I used to wonder where the men over 40 went because they certainly didn't go to the bars I went to. Now I know that their ears couldn't take the music, much as mine can't now. Plus I can't stay up that late. Isn't it to be expected that each generation has to learn for itself? Would we really want today's youth to be carbon copy's of us? On a similar subject, here's a look at what could be OUR future- gay men in nursing homes, with liberation being just a memory: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/c...0,3287548.story

You guys can wax poetic about the rain, but summer is at hand. It's not a poem I like, but I do like this Sinatra song: The summer wind came blowin' in From across the sea It lingered there to touch your hair And walk with me All summer long we sang a song And then we strolled that golden sand Two sweethearts and the summer wind Like painted kites, those days and nights They went flying by The world was new beneath the blue Umbrella sky Then softer than a piper man One day, it called to you I lost you I lost you to The summer wind The autumn wind And the winter winds They have come and gone And still those days Those lonely days They go on and on And guess who’s sigh`s His lullabies through nights that never end My fickled friend, The summer wind The summer wind warm summer wind Mmm the summer wind

The title turned me off as well. I did see The Proposal and found it delightful. Friends forced me to the Year One movie, but we all agreed after 15 minutes that we couldn't stomach anymore of its unbelievably stupid humor.

It took about three weeks for the fourth film to arrive. Once again, the guys on the box are not the ones in the movie. The actual guys are not too hot. No more $19.95 movies for me!

Some olive branch- it doesn't include full health benefits. Even two federal judges have stated that their gay employees are entitled to health benefits for their partners, but Obama won't do it. So what are the actual benefits being extended? See http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/17/us/politics/17gays.html?hp

No-flush niacin is minimally effective, but i hated it. Now I take prescription fish oil capsules. The brand name is Lovaza and the oil is pharmaceutical quality. There is none of the fish reflux as with the cheap over the counter brands, and my cholesterol and triglycerides went down dramatically.

Few things in life remain static. People who join message centers often stay for awhile and move on. Sometimes we know the reason, sometimes, and most often, we don't. It's a mystery how some guys just seem to disappear. they are gone before you know they are gone! I've known guys who stopped posting because of illness, lost interest in the site, or they have stopped hiring escorts. We see it here at MER where sometimes the conversation moves nicely only to be followed by some real dry spells. I can't tell you why that is, but one guess is that people have other things to do and they drop in when they can. Hooville is seeing many new posters, and management has never been as laid back as it is now, so, I guess for me it is a process of getting to know the new guys and I'll probably find out that they are much the same as the old guys.

I'm still having no trouble getting on to Daddy's site, and no one else has posted a problem, so let's hope that lurkerspeaks will find it an easy task when he tries again Someone sent me a message about my comment above, and I realized that it could be taken to infer that I didn't find cameraderie at the Hooville site. That isn't what I meant.These sites see a constantly changing flow of people, and sometimes I miss those who have moved on to other things, especially when I had developed a rapport with them.