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Was sad to see yesterday evening all atlas branding was already taken down from te building. Hope they have a good future in Soi 6. Information about many guys now moved to Tawan to work makes me feel maybe have to try out Tawan one more time...

Back in Bangkok... Probably reporting about it in more detail later. 😜 But I was not happy to see jupiter raised their cover fee (1 drink) to 600baht. I think it's too much. And told them at the door and decided not to go in. They didn't want to accept my "I will go in for old price" offer. Think should not support bar raising cover charge this high. But can't guarantee I won't be tempted later this week to do anyway...

And who doesn't like a long German sausage... 😂😜

Atlas bar is dark and closed tonight... Big question is: only closed for one night, or closed forever?....

A few notes about my stay in Pattaya the last week: I went to O Delices Bakery a few times for breakfast. It's diagonally across from Soda Massage. They have delicious breakfast combos, and the guys who work there are mostly as good as the breakfast/lunch they serve. In short: a good spot for some eye candy. I had a special Thanksgiving dinner at Zing Resort. What impressed me was the quality of the food. I don't know if their regular meals are as good, but if they have a special package for holidays (Christmas, New Year's, Thanksgiving, etc.), I definitely recommend it. After the shows at M2M, The Venue, and Best Bar, I also went to Candy Bar. Their show has a different theme every night, and apparently, Saturdays are their sexiest. So I checked that one out. And indeed, the guys (and ladyboys) are wearing less clothing than usual. The show has a burlesque theme. It builds up nicely. While it starts off somewhat tame, it gets a bit more risqué as the show progresses, without ever going over the edge of raunchy. The performers are passionate and connect with the audience. I had a really great evening there. It's definitely on par with my favorite M2M shows so far.

PATTAYA: THE JUICY STUFF Of course a visit to Boystown could not be missed, my once favorite bar, Boys Boys Boys, changed into a no-go area because of reasons already discussed in other forum posts. Last year I had a great night of fun in XBoys, so that was our destination that night. Me and a friend went there just before their show started. During the first show there were still more customers inside. But things heated up when most of them left after the first show. The boys became more uninhibited and willing. The fact that we offered a few drinks probably also worked. But in the end there were two boys with me who both could not leave their hands to themselves. And also let themselves be touched extensively. Furthermore, a lot of lap dances were given and teased in all kinds of ways. Cocks were coming out, named butts were shown. My friend also got a nice boy with/next to/on him, after some urging from me. So it was a great night out. The XBoys show remains as it used to be. Where other shows are declining in nudity and sexiness, this one is still as sexy and raunchy as ever. Also good to see that a guy who's been around for a long time (and is a favorite of a respected, unnamed forum member here) is still in good shape. Unlike some guys in Bangkok who have been in the business for a long time and whose body-wise, they're past their prime. Respect to this guy in XBoys for managing to stay so attractive. MASSAGE BOYS I met up with three massage boys while I was in Pattaya. Two were freelancers on Grindr and one from a massage shop. Let's start with the least experienced. The boys themselves have very sexy bodies. The massage was average. But the extra service didn't do it for me. Too mechanical. No passion. And all this while he was asking the highest price: 2,000 baht. The second boy was the cheapest, asking 1,000 baht. His massage was exactly what I requested. He paid extra attention to my feet with a more extensive foot massage, and after some instructions, the rest of my body was massaged with just the right pressure for me. It even got a bit kinky when he started licking my feet. And the rest of the sex was good too. He was visibly and audibly enjoying himself. A true gay bottom boy. Wonderful. The third massage boy, Benjamin (Ben), works in what I understand is a new massage shop on the outside of the Jomtien complex on the main street, Sala Kaya. The massage boy with the face tattoos (who previously worked in another shop and is very recognizable because of that face tattoo) also works there now. But my boy was just starting his second day in Pattaya. He's still experiencing the "fresh meat syndrome" where many men in Pattaya want to try him out because he's new to town. He told me he receives a lot of messages there, including via Grindr. On his first day of work, he had seven clients, and on his second day, I was his third client (late afternoon). He told me he even gets messages from guys back in bars in Jomtien, saying they need to earn their own money with an off first, but then they'd like to come and get a massage from him. Instead of a massage at the shop, I decided to invite him to my room. I prefer that. Especially being able to feel "at home" after the massage and take a shower in your own bathroom. Ben came in a bit shy, but he was a pleasant conversationalist. Ben speaks more than passable English. He comes from northeast Thailand, where his family (how could it be otherwise) has a farm. He studied marketing and had a hair salon in his hometown. If I understand correctly, he also gave massages there. He also arranged a visa for Europe through an agency and then traveled for three months through several countries (including Germany and France). Without the financial support of a farang. There, he worked as a massage therapist and charged European prices. He said he earned a lot of money this way, around 150 euros per massage. But he also needed that money to finance his expensive trip through Europe. He came to Pattaya well prepared. He had all kinds of vaccinations and went on the prep. However innocent he may seem, he clearly knew exactly what he was getting into... He was more than worth the 1500 baht. You could tell he had massage experience by the way he worked. The pressure he applied. The towels he used to get a grip when needed, preventing him from slipping away in the massage oil. He came well prepared, carrying several towels. The focus for the first half hour was truly on the massage. When I turned over, the good massage continued, but he did occasionally touch the "sensitive areas." The massage transitioned seamlessly into the extra service. Like a true bottom, he clearly enjoys riding a cock. This guy is highly recommended. I don't like to show a young man completely identifiable for privacy reasons, but based on the photo below, you should be able to recognize his profile on Grindr. And if you visit the shop: he's recognizable because he wears glasses. So Ben is definitely recommended. But be nice to him. He hasn't been ruined by staying in the "massage boy world" for too long. His slight insecurity actually makes him sweet. With him, I really felt like he wanted to please me. Both in terms of the quality of the massage, the extra services offered, and the atmosphere in general. There was also a (fourth) guy I had come to my room. But I don't officially count him as a massage boy. He didn't actually advertise himself as such, but after I asked if he'd give me a massage, he agreed. It was clear, however, that he had no experience in that. So we quickly shifted our focus to sex. And that was just good and enjoyable with him. He was also a nice and sociable guy. If you happen to see him on Grindr, you should definitely consider inviting him.

PP bar had their soft opening last night in Jomtien complex. Bar looks really fresh. With very soft comfortable sofas where you can spent some time with your favourite boy of the day. The will officially open beginning next week. So actually only in a few days from now. Staff on sight could not give any details about the owner, or why bar is called PP.

You're truly disgusting 🤢

PATTAYA: GENERAL OBSERVATIONS Just like many other times I've been to Pattaya, I chose to book the Agate Hotel in the Jomtien complex. The price-quality ratio is simply excellent. And the location is perfect. Close to several gay bars and within walking distance of the (gay) beach. You'll get the best price by booking directly with the hotel. This can make a significant difference compared to booking platforms. If the hotel's own booking tool on the website isn't working, email them. They usually have rooms available. Nice detail: the bathrooms have a bench in the shower. Handy for lazy queens who like to give blowjobs in the shower but don't want to get down on their knees... From my hotel room, I have a view of the abandoned parking garage in the Jomtien complex (see photo). Does anyone know if it was ever in use, or what the story behind it is? Not the most inspiring view, but I also look out directly onto the street inside the complex, so in the evenings you can see how busy it is and what's going on around. The hotel pool is small, but it's always quiet and deserted. Perfect for a few hours of relaxation if you don't feel like going to the beach. There's even a pet squirrel roaming around the pool. It's tame and not afraid of people. It came very close to me and was even bold enough to jump onto the lounge chair I was lying on and look at me curiously. Just turn on Grindr here, and the messages are guaranteed to pour in. And if the selection of guys on Grindr isn't enough, I recommend using Hornet. Quite a few money boys in Jomtien have been blocked by Grindr because they discovered they were MBs. Advertising yourself for sex for money isn't allowed on Grindr. But via Hornet, it's easier for them to open a new account when this happens. Meanwhile, Grindr has much stricter security. If you're banned, you can't create a new account with the same phone. As other forum members have noticed, there are quite a few Black guys (some from Madagascar) active on Grindr as moneyboys here. I've encountered quite a few in my grid. See, for example, the guys in the colleague below. Always nice for those who want a change from the Asian guys. What's also striking is that the price increases implemented by many guys in Bangkok haven't yet filtered down to Pattaya. On Grindr, most moneyboys offer themselves for 2,000 baht, but there are also plenty willing to visit your hotel room for 1,500 or even 1,000 baht. And they're good-looking guys, too. Speaking of Grindr: the profile below made me laugh... The photo shows that what you're looking for can sometimes be closer than you think... I've seen several shows in the complex itself. I've been to the M2M show several times before, and it never disappoints. The performances are full of energy, and the artists radiate joy. A fun night out is guaranteed. This time, too, it was a great time at M2M. I went to The Venue for the first time, but I'm not as impressed with the show there. The performers seem to be disinterested. Twice a week, they put on an extra show with a more erotic twist after their regular show. This special show is actually much more fun than their mail show. The performers seem to enjoy it more, probably because they can rake in a decent amount of tips. The audience sits very close, and as the performers walk through the audience, you can touch them and give them the tickets or tuck them into their clothes. A very touchy-touchy show. The shows at Best Bar are unfortunately no longer what they were for a short time. They had to cut the erotic segments. That was a really fun part, if I'm to believe those who were lucky enough to experience it. See the photo below for an impression. Oh well. That was once upon a time. Not anymore. Now it's a Thai Dance section and the well-known ladyboy numbers. Not as good as M2M, but in terms of energy and fun, better than The Venue. That's it for now. I'll write more about further adventures in Pattaya soon, even the exciting ones.

LAST DAY IN BANGKOK BEFORE MOVING TO PATTAYA Today the plan was to finally see something of Bangkok. My family and colleagues back home will get suspicious if I don't show any photos of Bangkok. What have I been doing there all this time? Haha. That's why I went to Wat Paknam Phasi Charoen. It's famous for the gigantic Buddha statue on one of Bangkok's canals. This large statue was under construction for a long time, but has recently been restored to its former glory. And I'd never been there before. It's very beautiful. Highly recommended. Especially if you can find the "hidden" photo spot across the water. For your convenience, this is the Google Maps link to that photo spot: https://maps.app.goo.gl/8PPMpEYWP1mCqw4h9 In the evening, I had plans to pick up the cute guy I met yesterday in Jupiter. But first, I wanted to check out Atlas Bar. A new bar I've never been to really needs to be checked out. While I was checking some messages on my phone outside, two men wanted to go in. But they immediately turned around. I heard this was because there weren't any customers inside. So, I'm not going in. It's so awkward to be the only customer in a bar like that. Who knows, I might try it again soon when I get back from Pattaya. I decided to walk straight to Jupiter. I passed Rainbow Dragon. It was the first time I saw that there were actually quite a few people inside. It looked like some kind of event, with a drag queen shouting something into a microphone. It drew enthusiastic reactions from the audience. I don't know if they do drag shows there often or if this was a one-off. I find many of the boys at Jupiter attractive. So I always enjoy watching their boys' parade. My eye fell on a boy with slightly curly hair. He has a very muscular body, a cute face, and a mischievous smile. He also performs many of the show acts as a dancer and stripper. But... he seems to have a brother who also works there? Because there were two boys with curly hair who look alike. See the two photos below from the parade video on Jupiter's Facebook page, from the day I was there. One boy is walking at the beginning of the parade. The other is at the end. They do look alike, don't they? Who knows more? I didn't see the guy I'd spoken to yesterday in the parade, but luckily he came in right after. Papasan directed him straight to me. The deal was quickly made, since we'd actually agreed on it yesterday. Off to my hotel.

By the way, after two nights at the Méridien Hotel, I changed hotels again. My budget doesn't allow for a longer stay in such an expensive hotel. So I stayed at the Ibis Styles Silom next, where I've stayed several times during my visits to Bangkok. And I always liked that hotel. Those who know it will remember that the bathroom tiles are very colorful and distinctive. It's funny to see different guys on Grindr with their profile pictures taken in a bathroom at the Ibis Styles. Then you at least know they're staying nearby... Or at least they can easily find the hotel if you invite them. Haha

If anybody has inside information about which guys might bottom (and I like kissing too...), I'm happy to hear names and which massage places they work. Via private message is also fine to keep it a bit more discrete... There are off course some massage shops that advertise with this information about the boys, but most of the shops are too discrete about it. See for example response I received when I, in my opinion, very politely and discreet asked about preferences of boys.

And attending our forum meet up offcourse... https://www.gayguides.com/topic/77933-when-are-you-coming-to-thailand/page/2/#findComment-483854

I received curious private messages about the two Vietnamese guys I'd brought to the Goodboy bar. Apparently, two Vietnamese brothers work there who sometimes accompany customers together. One of those brothers was indeed one of the guys I'd brought to the Méridien hotel. The other guy was a friend of his, but not his brother. He said his brother wasn't working. I'm still unclear whether he meant his brother simply had the night off or no longer works at the bar. I thought this might be an interesting addition to my earlier post about my "threeway" adventure.

You are right. I've been going there for years. When cannabis regulations in Thailand became more relaxed, everyone wanted a piece of the pie. This restaurant included. So the front terrace was transformed into a cannabis shop where people smoked. It wasn't pleasant to sit and eat, so if you wanted to eat there, you basically had to sit inside. I was pleasantly surprised to see that cannabis sales have since stopped, and both the terrace and the interior are once again exclusively used as a bar/restaurant. https://maps.app.goo.gl/2UqUAsU1AdW5oeK4A