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And attending our forum meet up offcourse... https://www.gayguides.com/topic/77933-when-are-you-coming-to-thailand/page/2/#findComment-483854

I received curious private messages about the two Vietnamese guys I'd brought to the Goodboy bar. Apparently, two Vietnamese brothers work there who sometimes accompany customers together. One of those brothers was indeed one of the guys I'd brought to the Méridien hotel. The other guy was a friend of his, but not his brother. He said his brother wasn't working. I'm still unclear whether he meant his brother simply had the night off or no longer works at the bar. I thought this might be an interesting addition to my earlier post about my "threeway" adventure.

You are right. I've been going there for years. When cannabis regulations in Thailand became more relaxed, everyone wanted a piece of the pie. This restaurant included. So the front terrace was transformed into a cannabis shop where people smoked. It wasn't pleasant to sit and eat, so if you wanted to eat there, you basically had to sit inside. I was pleasantly surprised to see that cannabis sales have since stopped, and both the terrace and the interior are once again exclusively used as a bar/restaurant. https://maps.app.goo.gl/2UqUAsU1AdW5oeK4A

FRENCH KISSING IN BANGKOK For a few days, I'd been chatting with a half-French/half-Moroccan guy who is in Thailand for an extended period. At first, he seemed a bit too feminine for me. But there was something about him that attracted me, both in his photos and in his "French ritual" he offers. After a few days of hesitation because his "asking price" was so high, I decided to invite him anyway. My curiosity about him got the better of me. Despite the high price, it turned out to be completely worth it. I'm not going to say what I paid him because I'd be embarrassed to, and then I'd get all my fellow forum members commenting... Haha. But let's just say this French guy didn't charge Thai rates. He had a warm and open personality. He took his time. His massage was exactly what I needed in terms of intensity. Plus, he works with pressure points, which was a very pleasant experience. The transition from sensual to erotic was seamless. He knows what he's doing, and he enjoys it himself. After the climax, it wasn't a quick pay-and-go. No, even then he took his time. Lying in each other's arms, chatting a bit. And he gave me a wonderful head massage. We talked about pressure point techniques and Chinese medicine. A well-spent afternoon. He also happens to be incredibly creative. At the guesthouse where he's staying by the river in Bangkok, he's working on a mural depicting various world cities. He's a professionally trained dancer, which explains his toned body and flexibility, so to speak... But above all, he has a great personality. If you search on the Hunqz website, you'll find him. It was the last night in Bangkok for a fellow forum member I'd met in Bangkok this week. So we decided to go out for dinner together again. We chose G's, as my dinner companion put it, "to stay loyal to Guido." I eat at Guido's every time I'm in Bangkok. And I always have a schnitzel. But since I'd already had it two nights ago, I decided to try a Thai dish this time. And that was delicious too. Also happy te report that Guido's pussy is still in full action. Alive and kicking at the terrace. After dinner, we went across the street for a drink on the terrace of Banana Club. On the terrace, yes. It was still early, there wasn't a show yet. But sitting there gave us the opportunity to watch people walk by. I always love that: people watching. And because the music wasn't nearly as loud as at other terraces further down the Soi, we were able to have a decent conversation. After my late afternoon escapades, I wasn't planning on finding a guy tonight. But after my fellow forum member left for his hotel, I decided to check out Jupiter anyway. I remember their show being very entertaining, even if I wasn't planning on bringing a guy. Upon entering, I was initially assigned a spot on a bar stool. After sitting there for a while, I asked to move to a bench. Sitting on a bar stool for extended periods of time isn't comfortable for me. Luckily, it wasn't too busy (yet), so I found another spot. Later, the place started filling up considerably. From the second show onward, at least all the benches were occupied, and some of the bar stools further back were as well. A friendly papasan confirmed my suspicion that the boy I had my eyes on at first was "boy" and not "gay." But he would point out which boys were gay during the next parade. And he did. With his laser pointer. When the parade ended, he gathered four of the gay boys from that evening. Without me knowing, they were suddenly all standing behind me. And asked if I could pick one. Awkward. But helpful. A boy who had been smiling at me during the parade was the nicest one in my opinion. So I agreed to have a drink with him during the next show. The boy confirmed that he was up for "anything" and would happily join me to make me "happy." I held my ground. And after we sat close together during the show, with my hand occasionally running over his muscles and his hand on my knee, I told him I'd love to come back next time and take him along. I did give him 200 baht as a tip for his time and company. He was great company, especially because he spoke reasonable English. By the way, he claimed to be from Bangkok. Originally. I don't hear that very often. Most Thai guys I talk to in bars are from somewhere in the countryside.

Didn't know there was a limit on daily reactions you can give in this forum...

Did all the stamp collectors on here know about the stamp museum in Bangkok? When I did see this on the list (see picture) I was laughing thinking about our forum...

Happy to report Guido's pussy is still in action. Seen at the terrace tonight.

I would like to know also. By the way, I don't think it's our responsibility, as customers, to keep track of the time. You make an agreement, say, 90 minutes. And if the massage boy ends up spending more time with you, I don't think you should have to pay extra. Unless, of course, after the 90 minutes, it's clearly stated that the paid time is over and you want to extend. How many times have forum members experienced their agreed-upon 90-minute session becoming a shorter session, and they were out the door within 90 minutes? Shouldn't you get a refund then because you've booked more time than you were paid for? The other way around, it shouldn't be standard practice either. Again, unless there's been clear agreement.

Well... I want him to play with a different stick than the one of the pool table... I'm afraid I had to pay the normal fee of 500baht for my drink. I see it as my contribution to the local gay community because indeed what I deed see there was not worth that 500baht. If you compare that for what show you see in Jupiter for the same 500baht for first drink... I would choose Jupiter a million times over Tawan nowadays. What can I say... We are having exquisite taste and good eye for quality. Did he have a 7eleven logo tattoo on the backside of his neck? I already did and enjoyed it there. See report above here.

ANOTHER DAY IN BANGKOK I've never had this much jet lag as I have this year. Does that have something to do with me getting older? Anyway, I took an extra nap during the day today. In between, I also visited the new Central Park. The new shopping mall with office towers and the new Dusit Thani hotel. They must have thought there weren't enough shopping malls in the area yet. But I have to say: the rooftop terrace is impressive. It's a true roof garden. It really makes you feel like you're walking through a park. With a beautiful view of Lumphini Park and the skyline beyond. There are discussions on this forum about where the best cashew chicken was on the menu. I had one today at Sarica restaurant on Surawong Road. Plenty of cashews, and the chicken was delicious. However, I have reservations about the quality of the sauce/paste they used. Still, I think it tasted good. That evening, I decided to visit Dreamboy right before the first show. Papasan had advised me the night before to arrive early next time, and he'd find me a good guy. When I arrived, it was already very busy. So busy, in fact, that I got a spot at the side of the stage. This made it difficult to get a good look at the guys, let alone read their number tags. Because of the crowd, Papasan also left me a bit alone, so I couldn't ask them for advice or information about the guys. When he happened to come by, he shined a laser pointer on several guys he knew were gay and also into bottoming. One of them had caught my eye earlier that evening, so I decided to invite them for a drink. He's from Myanmar and didn't speak a word of English. The translation app was struggling. I typed really good, but simple, English sentences. But the translation into Burmese wasn't great, so he didn't quite understand what I wanted to know. I deliberately didn't mention that I am top and wanted him to express his preferences first by asking him. His answer was ultimately clear: he's gay, but he's top. I politely let him know that we wouldn't be a match, which he accepted. He did, however, sit comfortably next to me, finishing his drink and touching each other. I tipped him 200 baht. Papasan came over and asked if I wanted to take the boy. I explained that I didn't, because the boy claims to be top, which contradicts the information Papasan gave me. Then Papasan and the boy started talking in Thai or Burmese. I didn't understand it at all. But after that, the boy claimed to want to take good care of me and was willing to do anything, including bottoming. But I insisted I wouldn't bring the boy along. A date between us could only end in disappointment. I want a real bottom or versa. And not someone who "just does it" because Papasan says so. It doesn't feel right to do something with a boy he doesn't choose for himself. That's why I was glad I'd had that conversation with him where I'd asked him about his preferences without him knowing what I was looking for. Or what Papasan had told me. I was a bit annoyed by Papasan's misinformation. Let's just say it cost me valuable time that I could have better spent meeting a guy who's truly bottom or versa. I couldn't bring myself to choose a new guy at Dreamboy either. So I paid and left the bar disappointed. Where to go now? It was already past midnight. And experience from the previous evening had taught me that it's hard to find a guy anywhere then, as closing time is approaching. But... Then I saw a sign that Goodboyz had a show at 1 a.m. So I went in... I arrived in boy heaven. There were so many boys. So many. And something for every taste. I even saw quite a few who piqued my interest. And importantly: the atmosphere was great. I felt welcome. Friendly mamasan. Boys who smiled at me and asking for attention, without being too pushy for drinks or tips. I even managed to chat with a boy who had spontaneously sat next to me for a while before he asked if I wanted to buy them a drink. And I did want to buy him a drink. Because he was definitely my type. He spoke reasonable English. That was a plus. At the same time, there was another attractive boy further down who also kept making eye contact. Both boys from Vietnam. And before I knew it, I was sitting with a boy on either side of me, drinks for them, and hands going everywhere, both theirs and mine. The setup at Goodboyz allows for this. The way the seating is arranged and the fact that it's a bit darker makes it a bit more intimate and private. Why choose between two cute guys when they're both willing to go with you? Luckily, the Méridien has big beds. The guys didn't do anything together in the hotel room, by the way. Their focus was entirely on me. But I'm not complaining, of course. I wouldn't call it a real threesome this way, either. But it was a special experience. The first time I've brought two guys from the bar back to the hotel.

I mean you mean baht insyeds of dollars... Now in Bangkok. I was lucky finding a massage guy who offered to come visit me for 1500 baht for full service. But generally both in the bars and on apps boys ask 2500 or 3000 for short time. Good-looking freelancers on grindr go as far as asking for 5k.

BANGKOK DAY 2 If I have time in between, I'll write something for my trip report. But it is, of course, a vacation after all. So I won't be updating daily. The second day in Bangkok. Time to change hotels to the luxurious Le Méridien. I always love the rooms here. Beautiful, spacious bathroom. Wonderful bath to relax in. And the beds are very comfortable. The breakfast buffet is truly extensive. Delicious. Another forum member also checked into the Méridien the same day I did. While chatting, we discovered we'd been given rooms on the same floor. What are the odds of that in a 24-story hotel? We decided to have a drink together that evening to get acquainted. He was already sitting on the terrace of Shenanigans, and I went to find him there. We had a nice, friendly chat. We then decided to walk around the corner together to check out one of the boy bars. We decided to go to Freshboys. They had a good selection of guys. I'd say there was something for everyone. My eye fell on number 9. He had curly hair, which made him stand out among all the other guys. He seemed very shy. Inquiring revealed he was from Myanmar and was "flexible" gay. Fellow forum member had left a bit earlier, and after I'd finished my drink, I decided to check out Dreamboy. It used to be my favorite boy bar back in the Soi Twilight days, the first few times I came to Bangkok. Because of its size (two floors) and the many boys. And the spectacular shows. Who doesn't remember the acrobatic sex scenes on stage? And the ladyboys showing off their erect penises? When I entered Dreamboy, I was reminded that it's still the biggest boy bar today. A very large stage. And quite a few boys, even though it was already late. It was funny to see that several mamasans/papasans who were already working in Soi Twilight were still there. They were about to close. A papasan who recognized me told me to come earlier tomorrow. He'd find me a really good boy then... I'm curious!

FIRST NIGHT IN BANGKOK I started the evening with a stroll. Through the various streets lined with boy bars and massage shops... What struck me was how quiet the streets were. Few people were walking around or entering the bars. I was therefore afraid I'd be the only customer if I went in. But when I entered Freshboys just after 10:30, it was surprisingly packed. The show wasn't anything new. It was mostly the same. During the big cock parade, number 31 caught my eye. Gorgeous body, six-pack, nice tattoos (not too many, but distinct. Chinese theme). When the boys went into the audience for tips, I naturally handed number 31 a bill. After I'd thoroughly felt up his body and given him some compliments, of course. Mamasan told me the guy was "top only." Unfortunately, he didn't match with me because of that. So I decided to try my luck elsewhere. Also, because I wanted to explore a bit on my first night and not pick up a guy at the first bar and end up back in my hotel room early. As busy as the Freshboys was, it was deserted in Tawan. Two other (young) customers. They both had a Tawan man sitting next to them, hands going everywhere, and at one dark moment, they even gave blowjobs in public... Exciting! But other than that... Most of the guys weren't my type. I'm into muscular guys. But lean muscular ones. And not what was generally "on the menu" in Tawan. There was one guy who did interest me, but he avoided eye contact. And I agree with @vinapuvinapu it usually doesn't result in a good date if you choose a guy who doesn't make eye contact and tries to get your attention or flirt with you. Guys (or men, as many of the Tawan staff fall into that category) are mostly on their phones, uninterested (except for two who did stop by for a chat), and one who seemed to have fallen asleep on the couch. He sat there with his eyes closed... It actually felt a bit awkward so I tried my best to finish my drink a little faster than normal. It was a little after midnight now, and I thought I'd try somewhere else. Only to find that everything was closed or about to close. Apparently, on weeknights in Bangkok these days, you have to make sure you've found a guy before midnight... Haha. Luckily, Grindr offered a solution. A massage therapist offered himself for the reasonable price of 1,500 baht for full service. He was able to walk straight through the reception to my hotel room without any problems once I gave him my room number. He was a nice, spontaneous guy, who was apparently a fan of 7-Eleven, because he had a large tattoo of their logo on the back of his neck. That tattoo looked familiar. But I can't remember the context. Maybe I saw the guy once when he worked at one of the boy bars. Or maybe I even met up with him on one of my previous trips... I asked him to give me a soft massage because I was experiencing some pain, and he knew exactly the right pressure so it wasn't painful, but you could feel that he was doing something. Satisfied and tired, I crawled into bed after he had also provided the extra service to my satisfaction. To give you an idea of what he is like, below is a photo from which I have cropped out his face. A successful first (half) day in Bangkok.

ARRIVAL I've been flying business class on my outbound journey for years. It's quite a long journey from Europe, and I love arriving in Thailand refreshed. This way, I can immediately dive into the sodomy that is Patpong, full of energy. I also find that by flying business class, the holiday begins during the trip instead of only when you arrive at your destination. Another advantage: you can use priority lane at immigration. After all, the lines at passport control can sometimes be very crowded. While boarding my 2nd flight/leg in Doha, I spotted a well-dressed, well-built guy. The kind you know right away is gay. A shirt that was way, way, way too tight around his muscular torso. But I did have something delicious to look at and fantasize about. And who did I meet on Grindr hours later after arriving? Of course... This guy. Haha. I chatted with him for a bit and admitted to him that I find him very attractive. But he's attracted to everything I'm not (younger, muscular, etc.), so unfortunately, nothing came out of it. But... It's a small gay world. Photos from his Grindr profile, his head cropped for privacy reasons. The first photo shows his style on the plane. Then you'll understand the gaydar that tripped me up. The second photo, just because it's hot, him shirtless. Just before leaving, I realized I'd made a mistake in the booking dates for my first hotel in Bangkok. As a result, I had a hotel for nights 2 and 3, but hadn't yet booked the first night. The last-minute prices for the luxurious Meridian Hotel, where I'd treated myself to two nights to kick off my vacation, were very high. So I decided to look for a cheaper option in Silom for one night and then move to the Meridian Hotel on day two. I found a very good deal on booking.com for Squirrel House, a relatively new hotel in the building that used to house the BBB Inn. I often prefer newer hotels. They still look fresh, are often clean, and have a modern, bright interior. I remember several other forum members having stayed there as well. See: I found old photos of the hotel on Google Maps when it was still the BBB Inn. It's funny to see that they advertised the hotel back then with a photo of a staff member lying on a hotel bed. I wonder if any members here ever found a staff member lying on their bed back then? The location is, of course, ideal. Within walking distance of all the bars and massage shops in Patpong. At least, within walking distance for most of us. @Olddaddy would definitely take a motorbike taxi... I think someone on this forum already mentioned the hotel's lack of an elevator. And of course, lucky me, my room was on the third floor... I had to lug my heavy suitcase up the stairs. The room is very basic. The bed is a bit too firm for my liking. And it's quite noisy. I hear a lot of noise from others walking in the hallway, from other rooms, and from slamming doors. The renovation of the adjacent (former) Take a Nap Hostel is currently also causing noise pollution. In short: it was nice to try a new hotel, and thankfully it was only for one night, but I won't be booking this one again.

I've been going to Thailand every year since 2012. There were two years I even went twice. I know, I can't quite match some other forum members here in that respect. Like @vinapu, who suddenly shows up unannounced in Bangkok about every two months (I like to exaggerate). But I'd still call myself a seasoned Thailand-goer. For the first two years, I was amazed and disbelieving by the shows full of nudity and sex, and the ease with which you could select and "buy" boys to go with you via a number tag on their underwear. But those days are long gone. You don't surprise or shock me that easily anymore. I also think the shows have become less explicit in general. Of course, there are still plenty of "big dicks" on parade during showtime. But... I don't encounter a nude underwater show or the acrobatic fuck scenes where the boys hang in rings live on stage in the trapege anymore. But I still enjoy visiting different boy bars and looking for the nicest, most handsome guy who's also into the things you're looking for. In short: I'm back in Thailand! First a week in Bangkok, then a week in Pattaya, and then another week in Bangkok. I'm going to try to write an interesting trip report