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Thanks yes I reread OP’s post. To @zombie I hope my post clears it up somewhat. I would never trust gossip from another bar. Just go in person and assess the rate and goods yourself. I don’t disagree at all, l haven’t been on the receiving end of any attitude but I can see that a more relaxed bar would be preferable to some. They were justified in the pre Covid years when the bar was so busy you couldn’t get a seat and the line up was the best in Patpong. If you look at the photos I posted…the stunners were there some 6 years ago. Only a few of them are left and they work irregularly. I continue to go due to possibly misplaced nostalgia (and some other more practical considerations) but I am in full agreement the quality has dropped off significantly. It used to be that 90% of the line up were tremendously attractive with sculpted abs pecs and biceps for miles. The first catwalk of the evening, with Mr Arm leading the pack could make you dizzy.

Reminder why Jupiter used to get away with much higher pricing …

Sounds like this guy was a bad egg. The correct protocol (for him) would have been to inform you his rate was 5000, but nicely ask if you could give him 1000 extra to make it 4000 and everyone leaves happy. Next time always check the tip expectation before leaving the bar. But there isn’t a large risk of a Jupiter guy getting violent. A serious customer complaint to the bar means immediate expulsion, as happened to one Cambodian.

Stating first that this is only my experience, and there are many fish in Silom. I saw your question and asked an ex Jupiter boy who’s had his moment as a highly popular boy. His response to the letter: “depends on the boy” The offing range in Jupiter has been known to be 3000-5000 for at least 8 years. I don’t see signs of inflation which is lucky for punters though the strong baht counters this. Perhaps you used to be able to ST less popular guys at 2500 pre and just post Covid but no longer. 5000 is either LT or ST for an in demand guy who already has an established clientele willing to pay this, and no immediate money issues. Unless the guy outright quotes you 5000 though, it is fair to assume ST is 3000-4000. No 5000 isn’t a brush off fee. The guy is trying to make a little more money (or maybe you look like hard work), or preparing to negotiate. You can try to counter offer 4000, there’s an 80% chance of them agreeing. I’ve seen guys quote 8000 or 10,000 when they truly want to give someone the brush off or “if you want me this much, this is what would be acceptable” from straight stunners to accept a gay off. Look, Jupiter is known to be a “premium” bar but the downside is the offs don’t happen as fast as other bars. Boys have to charge higher to make their monthly expenses, since they get one off per day or once every 2-3 days instead of two offs per night. Economies of scale and all that. If you want to challenge that, go to another bar.

1. I said dust off your punkah not your punkawallah 2. The sensitive or woke among us might be offended since Joey is known to be half-Indian! 3. Being neither, all I have to add is that Joey can pull my punkah any time

Is this the new direction or did they miss memo about Tawan’s brand identity?

Hope you’ve dusted off your punkah

Well Tawan has missed this memo for the past two decades or so. Even the old (and current) Dreamboys have certain individuals who look like they should be operating heavy machinery and no I do not mean geriatric gearshifts

I thought they were the barkers up there for a lark. Maybe the actual boys don’t want to be videod (or worse, they don’t have any yet)

60 cents in Malaysia is 4.76 Thai baht. Calling it “cheating” or “overtipping” is a bit extreme! I’d yell too, at her.

Was she yelling her fee?

That’s how the rich get richer

I stopped going to these high end steakhouses when I realised the steak cost more than the boy

Would you consider the new models good looking or in the same league as Joey?

I had to research this to feed my other good pieces of meat (Cambodians and Burmese) 😂 Arno’s is my go to for quality cuts of steak at reasonable prices. The nearest branch is at Silom Serene Hotel, a short walk from Soi 4 but the hours were quite irregular so I’ve also been to the one at Narathiwat 20. Far superior to Wine Connection! If you want to splurge, El Gaucho but the boy-meat ate so fast and so much that it bankrupted me. Cocotte is supposed to be good too I rarely eat steak in Bangkok as I find it overpriced, which I was told is due to most Thais not eating beef so there aren’t economies of scale for steakhouses.

I beg to differ. Short visits and long stays are different value propositions. Most places offer substantial discounts for long bookings, so it’s not unfair to assume you’d get good bang for your buck especially in low season and that online reviews would be somewhat accurate. You are out of date, the true rich are over at the Aman

Thank you for the post, for some reason I cannot seem to “react” to any of them without encountering an error. After waking from a Sunday lie-in I was pleasantly surprised to see such an engaging report and had a good read over my morning fruit and single egg (I’m on a diet preparing for my next Bangkok trip) For 69k a month, I would expect a higher standard of accommodation. This could get a luxurious Airbnb though arguably without the hotel services (whatever those are, as this sounded lacking as well). Better luck next time, try an Airbnb on the Saladaeng side. Comes with its own washing machine and you can Line a maid service to come and clean the room weekly as or as often as you’re willing to pay for.

I still wonder occasionally who leaked that phone call, was it a disgruntled subordinate as “Uncle” claimed or the man himself

Is there cardio equipment? Couldn’t see any in the photos and reviews. My regular guy and I are both gym goers and we talk about getting in a session together some time but somehow we just can’t work up the energy to go when I’m visiting, even when the hotel has a very good quality gym. We end up sleeping late and being lazy 😅 He used to only lift but has now started cardio with my encouragement, which is better for his overall fitness and vascular health than just being a muscle Mary.

Where is the prejudice in looking for a non-bar spot to chill and have a beer and some food? You’re making assumptions based on your own preferences in Pattaya. I rarely, almost never stay in Jomtien. Quite often I have my regular with me so I keep his comfort and enjoyment in mind as well, such as selecting places where locals go to have fun and don’t feel like retirement homes.

I’ve seen it highly recommended. Surprising that the Pattaya gym is more modern than the Bangkok one, also that it’s not in central Pattaya. If I have time on my next trip will check it out

Yes that’s the one. Back to square one, still looking for a good non-bar spot. Years ago a boy brought me to an open air beer bar and restaurant with live music (very good, fun local vibe) but it probably doesn’t exist anymore.

At least three people I know of were brought to the same Japanese restaurant in Thonglor. My impression was he also had a similar arrangement with Fake Club but I could be mistaken.

A kind soul DM’d me the name already. It’s not 76 Garage. Upon closer inspection of social media, many fit shirtless guys but also far too many bar girls.

and I believe the off fee for non models is cheaper, 500 baht