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I think women mainly off guys to escort them for drinks, dancing etc though there may be some bedroom fun involved too. I have seen them in Jupiter and Moonlight, and surprisingly a number are quite attractive whom you wouldn’t expect to pay for companionship. But I guess they are just as enamoured with Thai boys as we are.

Is anyone planning to attend the Halloween party that they’re advertising on FB? Apparently the models are dressed up as zombies - sounds like great comedy.

Yes I wasn’t suggesting that “we” forum members fix the bars’ business models lol. Just that the bars should know their own identity and strengths, focus on their target audience and do it well. That makes for happy customers too. Fully agree discreet low key bars have their own charms, that is a service area in itself which can either be done excellently or shabbily. And never under estimate strict captains who keep the boys in line too, they are essential to any successful operation.

With all due respect, all this picture shows is that Moonlight has a very savvy social media manager - something the other bars may wish to learn from. The photo shoots, live streaming certainly keeps this bar in my mind ahead of others and allows me to appreciate the stars at my leisure when I may be otherwise distracted inside the actual venue. It also means they cultivate an international fanbase who will ensure a visit during Bangkok travels than relying on the luck of walk ins. Perhaps instead of only considering drink prices, we should think about how the Soi twilight bars can equally raise their game.

I have seen him before at Jupiter. And pointed him out to my friend as being very striking though not my type. But I confess I did not even remember this until I saw Jasper’s photo. Another example of why I occasionally browse the Chinese forum as I tend to forget even boys who left an impression. That night he was on stage rotation for quite a long time as no one called him down, though it was a Friday.

No revealing photos of Boom (unless a standard underwear photo is revealing), but there is one thread devoted to him so that is where I matched the face to the tattoo you posted. The Chinese forum is much like this one (I actually found the link here). The main difference is that there are discussions dedicated to individual boys with photos. Some revealing, some not. Jupiter boys are popular as expected, also massage boys. My Chinese is not good enough to follow the discussion so I just browse the photos. Edit: the forum is called “gaytourthai” which you can google. If anyone wants a link directly to the board discussing the boys you can PM me since I don’t know this forum’s policy on posting URLs. You may also need to be registered to see some of the photos.

LOL. In my memory it was a series of interlocking shapes which looked like swastikas....and as I said, closest description I could think of since Thai boy tattoos are the most puzzling designs on earth. But upon checking the photos my eyes are obviously playing tricks on me.

Yes that would be him. I had to check the Chinese forum to reconfirm, where they have no qualms posting face photos and other even more personal photos of boys. I guess that explains why I never even got within arm’s length. Looks like I will have to forego one evening at Moonlight in favour of trying to catch this hula hoop show on my next visit.

The boy with the ‘swastika’ tattoo (not actually a swastika- just the closest description I could think of) has worn the number 9 and 17 tags, if this rings any bells.

I have not had the pleasure of seeing the hula hoop show. Each time I have been to Jupiter, most of these very popular boys were already booked by customers, majority female. So I admired from a distance, not by choice.

I would not be surprised but since I am not a threat to his life - only to his income - I doubt he would pull a gun on me, on airport premises no less. The other incidents I have encountered, I was out of my comfort zone and thought it best to comply. Being driven miles out into the suburbs and being confronted for a huge amount of petrol money is one of them.

Thai taxi drivers are the bane of my life. On my trip last week being in a hurry I decided to get a taxi but forgot to check if the meter was running. Sure enough as he pulled out from taxi rank he started to insist on 500 baht (ridiculous! I knew where I was going cost no more than 350). Luckily we were close enough to the airport that I threatened to alight and get a new taxi, stranding him with no passenger and having to queue again in the rank. He switched on the meter and we proceeded. And even though I had raised my voice at him, being tired, impatient and too used to taxi driver shenanigans, within minutes he was smiling and chattering cheerfully on the phone. Which brings me to the conclusion they expect some haggling and arguing, and don’t take offence if they don’t come out on the winning side- no need to fear for your life, just be firm, it is par for the course. Could I have paid the extra 150? Absolutely. Each time I take a short taxi ride (say from Siam to Silom) the driver always hopefully asks for 100 baht and I usually agree to save fuss, and because I actually have a choice to walk away. But for airport taxis, this is a monitored system, drivers know this, and you need to stand firm otherwise more helpless tourists will be bullied. Apart from this I have numerous other horror stories, some of which will raise the hair on your head.

I don’t know names / numbers, which one is Boom? The lad in your photo or the one I mentioned?

I refer to the most sought after Jupiter boys who don’t advertise - or have to - themselves on apps even in Bangkok. But yes you are right there seem to be travelling Thai money boys all over Asia.

I have seen this boy before, indeed handsome. But the boy who attracts me more is the popular one with a swastika looking tattoo on his left pec. He is jaw droppingly gorgeous. Either he has also worked in China or is popular with the Chinese, I forget which. When these boys go to work abroad, is this usually for a single customer or is this some sort of bar network? I was told of boys also going to work in Japan and other countries.

Guess you didn’t have to tip the pizza though? LOL

Very nice to revisit this thread. I was thinking I had ignored Jupiter recently in favour of Moonlight and it was time to return on my next trip to see what has changed. Did we ever find out why this boy is not a popular off? He looks extremely attractive to me even with starry eyes, I would be keen to see him in the flesh.

Moonlight is still a new bar in comparison and even on Friday, Saturday they are never as full as Jupiter and Dreamboys. It would be foolish to start raising prices so soon, they should wait to benefit from Jupiter’s increased prices instead. The off fees don’t exactly vary by boy, just that the models command a very high off fee but the fees are set in advance so you won’t have a nasty surprise.

On a slightly different note...if you are trying to go into Bangkok proper from the airport, do not take a Pattaya taxi. Some of them queue up with Bangkok taxis for additional business before going back to Pattaya, and they are often woefully unfamiliar with Bangkok roads and shortcuts. If you are assigned a Pattaya taxi, go back to the machine and get a new queue number.

Apparently, the last day of Buddhist Lent. Not a non-working day so it doesn’t show up in holiday listings.

Excellent advice and thank you also for the AirBnB warning, all taken into account.

I was just offered a unit in a new and very nice freehold development, walking distance from Thonglor BTS and starting from 1.79 million baht. Around 25.5 sqm for a studio so a one bedroom would be around US$70-80K I assume. If PeterRS’ statistics a correct this is a very good deal indeed and I can see why the agent says local investors are snapping it up. Would be keen to hear more advice on the topic - perhaps I should look into this more seriously while there are still good freeholds to be had.

I am not so close to retirement age yet (though definitely making mental plans already) and all told, am slowly scaling up to the possibility of maybe spending more time in Thailand. I like my creature comforts and probably spend more on hotels than I probably should. So an apartment I have furnished myself makes sense and permits longer stays without worrying about hotel bills. I understand that for around US$40-50K I can acquire a central Bangkok apartment. My question is what do I do with the apartment for the remaining 9 months of the year? Hire a property manager to let it for short periods/AirBNB? Seems a waste to leave it empty. Also does anyone know if foreigners can have mortgages or get financing? My other alternative is to buy now with up to 70-80% on mortgage, rent it for several years and have it close to being fully paid for by retirement. This will free up my funds for other expenses and investments.

Now I am aware of this, I may avail of its services next time. But as I had less than an hour of my own allotted time, the high cost of models and my top choice (Sunny) was not available...I rather wait for next trip than off in haste and repent at leisure.

When the models came out, I sat up straight with my eyes peeled as this was the subject of our extended conversations. Sure enough they didn’t disappoint yet again. This was the first time I was seeing Babe in the flesh. He is cute, very cute in fact. Unlike the other models who look better in person, Babe is just as appealing on and off camera...which likely accounts for his modelling success. He definitely had the girls in the front row gasping each time he flashed them a grin. There are two new models added (you can see them in most recent FB videos), neither of whom I find attractive nor to the standard of the others. Also somewhat lacking in personality and stage presence. As vinapu has noted, there are other boys in the rotation who are more worthy of being ‘upgraded’ to model status. I wondered if they were permanent or brought on for the night to make up for some absences. According to mamamsan , Nicky has been on extended vacation for some days. I smiled to myself when I heard that, thinking his relaxing time off may have been partially enabled by the good heart of our Vinapu! Tam was present but almost incognito in street clothes seated in the audience. When the models paraded down to wai the customers, a few paused to give him multiple exaggerated wais with great sarcasm. He returned the favour by heckling loudly from the audience when the models had to present themselves again, leading to Fluke and Tae cracking their icy demeanour with beautiful grins on stage. Very good to see this camaraderie among the models and Fluke in particular has a smile which can rivals Babe’s, it totally transforms his stern looks. As always, Sunny awed with his dancing and also did a competent solo of Careless Whisper. Babe is probably the next best dancer, a natural mover with great charisma. I was not planning to off due to limited time and no hotel, but was hopeful of inviting Sunny for a drink to coax a smile, conversation and finally solving the mystery of whether he could be offed by customers. Sadly for me, he was once again seated with a solo Chinese lady as soon as he left the stage and didn’t go near other customers. After finishing my post-show drink, I went for a walk to reacquaint with Twilight which was surprisingly quiet. Peeked into a couple of other bars but nothing of great interest. Then home for a quick nap and transferred onwards to the airport again. A very enjoyable and unlooked for night in the middle of a busy work schedule.