hank75

Seconded and at 6500 it is good value. You will not get the same standards in Manila, a similar class hotel is either very aged or very expensive (the only one I can think of which I would find realistically comparable is the Shangri La BGC, and that is double the price. And I prefer Meridian)

More at risk from the motorcycles than the breakfasts, to my way of looking at it

Depending on what exactly you use these quite often get dispensed without a prescription in normal Thai pharmacies so you can easily stock up if you travel there occasionally.

Probably should check out Joyzone and GASS too if you don’t necessarily want to off someone

From my ex guy (and others) I received the sense that adult life expectancy was relatively short in Cambodia. Parents in their early 50s were described as “very old” and on their last legs. Several boys I know lost a parent at a young age. Excessive drinking among other factors is a likely contributor! Added on to a hard farming life….malnutrition… poor healthcare. My ex guy’s mother was so riddled with gout and ailments she could be barely walk.

@jimmie50 I’m sure you didn’t envision yourself starting your retirement adventure in a crowded village house, using outhouse toilets and enduring drunken karaoke! Hang in there. Your reports are bringing back memories of spending Songkran with my ex guy in Siem Reap where I was invited to partake in the “festivities” with his friends and relatives. Will recap that here when I am less exhausted, it’s been a dinger of a week. All I can say is you have far more fortitude than I did; a day was more than too much for me. On a serious note, be careful whatever you consume is fully cooked. I didn’t like the sound of collecting rainwater in vats to cook and wash with. Sounds like a case food poisoning or bacterial infection around the corner.

Looks a bit grim. Agreed, short time room or nothing beyond 2 days

I stand corrected but my logic remains similar, the fate of Soi 4 lies with its owners and should not be confused with the complaints of the failed investor

Why is it surprising that an Australian speaks English?

There are two different situations being discussed. One is the fate of the entire Soi 4 which is up to the owners ie the Patpongpanich family. The other is the “saga” of Circus and Pride which opened to much fanfare a few years ago, had poorly executed business models and management structure, and were clearly failing businesses by the end. I find this hard to believe. As the main financier, not even voting or veto rights, or the ability to recoup investment when business was sold? That’s what happens when you buy a bar for your bar boy boyfriend(s)

Priest?

Beware it might get diluted with still, or gasp…tap….

I stand corrected. There is a real risk of white lies…black lies….and all other colors of the rainbow

I can only speak from experience. I have encountered fake drinks at three places but two were more evident. Both times the giveaway was that you cannot get drunk the same way one usually does from a few whiskies. There is a very mild buzz but it evaporates fast. Should you try keep drinking to chase the buzz you end up feeling unpleasant. Something just feels off with the alcohol high it produces. On each occasion I had boys with me who are good drinkers and experienced enough to know something was not quite right, they too shared my suspicions. I also felt that the taste was different but can’t reliably claim accuracy on that point. One venue was a well known club with hundreds of customers so likely they weren’t stupid enough to sell methanol as a single case would have been enough to cause a media circus and shut them down. The other well…I had been there a few times but once I was certain I was sold a fake bottle, I never set foot in there again.

I can only vouch for Jupiter. In fact the karaoke place @jason1975 referred to (Sky, forgot what it’s called now) surprisingly also sells real whisky. The place I encountered fake drinks was a well known gay dance club. agree on liking beer….and cheaper too.