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As much as I've been trying my best to follow Scooby's advice to not "feed the troll," you're appetite is ravenous, Stevie. Your attempts to make the two idiots who offended the sensibilities of Thai citizens while disrespecting their dominant religion appear to be scapegoats speaks volumes about your need for attention. As you once admitted that you can't tolerate being ignored when prowling a sauna, you're likewise unable to post here without demanding attention regardless of method. You are, Stevie, the perfect troll. Congratulations on your momentous achievement.

I don't disagree, Alexx, with your general premise but I do believe that some degree of discretion is wise given the current regime's willingness to exercise its extraordinary powers. And I agree that there indeed are "ways" (i.e., vpn) to get around things. However, I think most members can self-monitor their remarks without resorting to over-the-top censoring that I'm not endorsing because it's not appropriate or needed.

Oppressive or not, using this forum to criticize Thais in general, or the powers that be specifically, may threaten the distribution.of this site within the kingdom. Although it originates outside of Thailand, authorities can pull the plug on it inside, making it either unavailable or difficult to access by readers in Thailand. New websites are regularly added to the no-go list and it would be a shame to see this one join it.

Agree that pm is a great invention but people keep reading this thread. They're voting with their clicks. Of the 10 most recent messages in "gay Thailand", only the Screw Boy thread has had more views.

I've heard readers describe his ass in detail but never as dumb. If he were to be sent to prison, guys would be queuing up to get on the conjugal visit list.

This will actually be good for his career. How could a bar boy attract this level of publicity without resorting to something outrageous? Prediction: more people will want to touch that body, thus bidding up the asking price. And the beat goes on.

Stevie, i envy you your consistent ability to resort to gibber, your impressive lack of logic, your inability to distinguish between Thai and foreigner, your defense of disgusting pranksters and your ability to see corruption everywhere except in your thinking process. So why deny me the pleasure of envying Alexx's lovely hands? As in so many of your posts, your words are worth a thousand pictures.

Then I suggest you check the facebook page and get up to speed! You wouldn't want to miss the next foam party, now. Those suds, I understand, are good for the hands.

The purpose of sunscreens is to protect against skin cancer. Whitening creams can actually damage the skin's outer layer, making it more susceptible to the harmful effects of the sun. Obviously precautions people take to avoid skin cancer have nothing to do with racism. Try as you might to twist your pretzel-like logic otherwise.

If the rationale is to appear more like the hi-so in society, then the marketing strategy succeeded. Having done manual labor for most of my working life, I envy your smooth and delicate hands.

You may not think their antics rise to the level of crime but that's for the Thais to decide, not an American. So as I understand your criteria, if the two guys (aged 36 and 38) were 16-18 and slim and cute you'd find their "prank" worth watching. It's all much clearer now, thanks.

Let's see now. You've been a Babylon regular for 11 years and you've just checked its webpage for the first time. And you still can't explain how you mistook the Thai owner for a farang. You've certainty cleared the air on those matters.

You're quickly making yourself persona non grata in the very nation you hope to again visit. You're obviously a graduate of the Trump School of International Relations.

Steveboy wrote: "I rather choose to live in a country with good individual rights." That sound you hear, Stevie, is the grand rejoicing of Thais arising from across the land

Skin whitening products may be available in other countries but not in anywhere near the abundance they are in Thailand. The imarketing strategy is make those with darker skin feel inferior to those with white skin. It's racist and manipulative at best. But if you or anyone else wants to buy into it, by all means knock yourself out. I'm confident it will immediately improve your appearance and attractiveness.

Once again, Stevie, you descend into gibberish.

Stevie, you claim to have been a regular at Babs for 11 years but couldn't tell the difference between a local and a farang? Hmmmm.......

No, Stevie, just you. So we can now count you among those who like your boys white as chemically possible. Btw, wasn't surprised that you're now advising god on strategy.

If a recall correctly from a vinapu post on a different thread, 947 angels can dance on the head of a pin.

. I recall that when Lucas was still managing Tarntawan place hotel, when the bib overnight shift came on duty, a handful of brass would gather in the lounge for coffee, their cycles and vehicles in the driveway. I like to think they like to gossip, just like us. Stayed once at the Ibis just after it opened. Found it's tiny room clean but the place was soulless compared to Malaysia. Also tried the Pinnacle a few times which was also a good value and where MB's were well represented at the breakfast buffet with their farang hosts. You're spot on about the neighborhood. Good, reasonable restaurants, and no trouble finding company.

You're right about the marketers capitalizing on the discrimination that light-skin Thais (particularly the hi-so) perpetuate on those they treat as second-class citizens, or even less. It demeans the country's working class, the very guys we find perfect just as they are.

Agree it's a brisk 25-minute walk from Silom no matter what route you take and quite doable if you have no physical restrictions. But if your base of operations is going to be Silom/surawong area, most venues are within a few minutes apart but no more than seven. And when you head home for the night--alone or with others--your hotel is in the neighborhood.

Makers of skin whitening products have created the need for their product through mass marketing, Persuading people that they'll be more attractive, more successful, more popular if they just have whiter skin is illogical as it is absurd. But through advertising, the absurd has become reality. The basis for the argument is a throwback to colonialism: white is better. Manufacturers simply capitalize on it by making those with darker skin feel inferior. It's sad to realize just how successful their efforts have been.

Not so sure that it's so easily chalked up to human nature, spoon. Michael Jackson wanted to be white in the most destructive way. Think it has more to do with image that media and advertisers project.