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I've probably had 30+ 3somes with BF and other Asian guys over the last 14 years... And a few 4somes... for them to work and be enjoyable there absolutely has to be a mutual attraction for all parties (even if its purely business for the 3rd) I can understand the 'share cock' phrase above! The guys know where their friends cocks have been... and who they have been with... and maybe they don't like the idea of catching second hand clap from them! My BF would never go near a guy if he knew that guy had sex with a LB, of course he knows that they probably had sex with a LB at some stage in their lives... but knowing that the actually had sex would be a complete turn off for him! Similarly he wouldn't have sex with a MB who has a Thai BF. Why? Because then the guy is doing it for the money, not for the fun (+ bonus money)... It would completely ruin the 3some BF Experience for the night knowing that his BF was at home waiting for him... or worse still waiting outside the door or our condo! Again its the knowing he has a BF versus the thought that he might have a BF that makes a subtle difference

Around 10 years ago we were having a house warming party for my BFs new house in Buriram. We took a minibus with around 7-8 Pattaya guys to BFs village All but 1 of the Pattaya boys (he was in a monogamous relationship) had multiple sex partners over the 3 days we were in the village, usual price for fun was a pack of cigarettes or some Lao Khao. At the end of that trip my farang travelling partner ended up taking one of the village boys back to Pattaya with him... of course when they both woke from their drunken haze the next morning - the attraction was gone! So I was the one who had to take care of sending the stranded boy back to Buriram! Similarly I have visited morlams in Issan - where the straight boys and gay boys get together for some mutual fun... as soon as the straight boys realise that they aren't going to get a girl that night So the village boys get plenty of experience before they ever hit the shores of Pattaya!

Sounds like opening a bottle of whiskey is the way to go if there are 3-4 of you and you want to stay for a few drinks Do you know if the whiskey@3000B includes all mixers, some mixers or no mixers? And do any of the twilight bars also do Whiskey sets? In Pattaya gogo bars we usually pay 1100-1500 for a 700ml bottle of 100 pipers + all mixers included... its definitely the way to go if you are out with a gang

I've never had a Pattaya boy (Free or MB) ask for oral with a condom... In fact these days its often a struggle to stop a boy trying to have anal without a condom In Vegas on the other hand I had 2 (free) encounters in a row who wanted oral with a condom - on both occasions I declined the BJ and sent them away. It was too easy to find someone else on Grindr

I don't have any problem with your posts Numazu... They are very much appreciated and I love to see your perspective! You felt "hard done by" and moaned in your last few posts - so I merely offered a reason why people may have umbrage.. There are a lot of fawners on this board... but it seems that you have a problem with anyone having the temerity to criticize your posts.. As you rightfully post you fixed the original DM issue by blurring the pics... Of course your couldn't amend your original post to say they ARE prostitutes... as that would break Thai law and defame them.. So well done to you on choosing to blur their pics and save yourself and this forum future grief The boys in the original post were on an off night in a public place, so nobody has a right to take their pics and call them prostitutes on a public forum (even if they are) The boys in the other threads were working... and KNEW their pics were being taken (otherwise they wouldn't have posed)... Most would argue that your shots were surreptitious. Remember: a picture paints a thousand words... a captions paints ten thousand more!

I don't think DM is talking about the Coyote pics (which are on FB) but rather the pics of customers... You took pics of some guys having a night out in a club and posted them on a public forum staing that you thought they were prostitutes E.g. "I look around and see familiar faces. I see two boys that I think are gogos from Screwboys: They were with an older Thai guy. I am only guessing that the two were working tonight, judging from the body language. At the next table, I see four familiar faces. I think these were Jupiter boys" If would have been more appropriate if the pics were part of your boy-watching series and without labelling the guys as possible gogo boys... what if they were just normal gay guys on a night out?

My usual rule of thumb in any massage place is to give the equivalent of the fee as a tip So 300B oil massage gets 300B tip 200B foot massage gets 200 tip etc.

That may explain some of your bad luck with offs... There is a Laos boy called Pet that you mention recently in your blog, I have met Pet and had and absolutely great night out with him followed by some of the most passionate sex i have had in recent years... Perhaps that great sex was because I tried to cultivate a relationship?

I first stayed at the C&N in 2002, and have stayed there 5 from 6 trips since. Price vs Location it can't be beaten. No problem with joiners, they need to sign the guest register and basic ID check, but in general no problems. I stayed with (Thai) BF last few trips and no problem with 3rd guy coming to join us... The "space age" newer rooms are great, love the lighting! I will def book C&N next time I visit

try going inside! Most those guys are there every night last 12 months

Great report so far! $200USD seems like a huge price for a tour in a third world country... Did you find it value for money? We did something similar in Phnom Penh earlier this month and the all in cost for 3 people was less than 100USD

a lot of boys on hornet will now write "not for free" or "I'm Moneyboy" in their profiles During show time in NAB its quite often that the Ladyboy "Monsters" will start to shout out about Garee Pattaya (Pattaya Prostitutes) and its usually all titters and laughs during this section of the show... So for me its all about the tone in which the MB insinuation is made...

The bad news is that the Mercure hotel is known as a ghost hotel to many locals or long term Pattaya guests The almost complete hotel site was abandoned during the Asian crisis in 1997 and lay unfinished for a number of years During that time it was used as a yaba den and was often the scene of murders or apparent "suicides" A lot of locals will refuse to stay in this hotel to its reputation (Certainly my BF anyway!) Don't be surprised if a guy doesn't want to stay long term there (overnight) - its not personal... just superstition!

Any of the clinics on South Pattaya or soi 17 will do an ear rinse for you Usual cost is 4-500B - I always end up having to get one after Songkran - to clear out all that powder that has been blasted in there by water pistols!

HCMC has a population of 8.2 million people PP has a population of 1.5 million people So based on population alone it seems HCMC would be a better bet On the other hand there are host bars in PP and the bars/clubs open later. The gay apps seem as busy in both cities. My feeling is that the Khmer's are less commercial than the Vietnamese and he is more likely to get the BFE (boyfriend experience) in PP

Same here! I do hope that Scooby used some scientific method to identify the alleged hydra - beyond his scooby-smell!

It's funny that you should mention this Prakanong Here in Dublin we get 100's (maybe 1000's!) of Asian students visiting every month to learn English. On the odd occasion some of them end up as my bed mates... during foreplay (!) the more studious ones ask me questions like "whats the perfect past tense of xxx" "is that word you just used a noun/pronoun/verb/adverb" etc Of course as someone that learned English as my native language - I have no idea. I just know what sounds correct and what sounds incorrect (to my colloquial and regional hearing)

The usual slang term I have heard from Australian/Americans Born Asians is a "banana" - Yellow on the outside, but white on the inside. Of course if a GWM uses the term its deemed to be a slur. But perfectly acceptable for an Asian to use

For me sawatdeenetwork is the "cleanest" looking forum Its so difficult to find the "forum" button on the gaythailand site - I wouldn't be surprised if they lose a lot of visitors who don't even realise that there is a forum... it needs to be way more prominent IMO Also for me the Bamboo scheme looks like something out of the 80s or a short time room That being said this board currently has the best trip reports

Strangest ever Thai related posting! Never heard of this japanese band ever! Maybe i'm hanging out in the wrong places! Oh and to add to my above songs: Thai answer to Ireland favourite "bachelor" singer Daniel O'Donnell (Bird Thongchai) And everyones favourite Songkran song: Akons Right Now (Na Na Na)

This has gotta be it for me: Played every night in teh old disco area in BBB on my first trip in 2001: And of course who can forget this one (still popular these days)

By the way the walk down that dark soi also explains why Novana seems to have a huge number of vacant Units (e.g. On AirBNB) When my BF lived in next roor LV apartment there was a pedestrian shortcut through one of the restaurants on 3rd road... as soon as the restaurant owner closed up that right-of-way LV went from a very desirable Apartment block to practically empty!

I have often considered Novana, as BF used to live in the Next door LV apartment Is there direct access from novana onto 3rd road - or must you travel down that dark laneway and past Phuphaya residence to get to 3rd road? Seems like a pretty arduous journey to BT if you ask me!

Myself and BF in classic earlier this month and as per comments above the mamasan was a pain in the ass There were 2 other customers at the time and each of us had a mamasan sitting on our shoulder Our mamasan was spouting away gibberish and after 5-6 mins BF had enough and wanted to leave 700B for drinks, change from 1000B was 3x100B notes Waiter and mamasan stood expectantly waiting for a 100B tip (each)...Luckily BF had 20B and shoved that into tip wallet, mamasan plea for tip was ignored Like others we won't be going back there again soon!

Hi Vessey Will we be getting a trip report from your mist recent trip? Dying to know what happened with Jason from vietnam and to hear about Vit Part 2! As for opening bottles of whiskey - BF and I usually open at least one per night in a gogo bar (typically Powerboys Toyboys or Dreamboys... sometimes that can meld into 3 or even 4 bottles... if there is fun to be had... (if there is no fun, then we either leave the whiskey for staff to drink, or keep it for another night) Once everyone is nicely merry we head on to NAB, Hollywood or TNI at 1am and party on till 4-5am Its a lot cheaper to pre-load the boys with 100 Pipers @1200B (inc mixers) in the bar than to spend it on 80B mixers and 1600B JW red in hollywood!