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Exactly what goes in my mind when i first started doing my own bar crawls. Since i am very picky, i tend to want to see all first then only pick one. But soon i realize, its best to take one who suite my type early on, pay their off fee, and then told them to wait at their bar until i finished my bar hopping. This way, i can be sure that the boy will wait for me, thus eliminating the chance that they boy might not be there anymore, taken by other customer or left the bar alone. They can also still get boy drinks and tips while still in their bar, waiting for me. Another, more expensive way, is to offer the boy to go bar hopping with me. This of course means u will have to pay for his drinks at the other bars too. Though this part might not be a great idea if your boy is the jealous type. Of course, while u already secure the boy for the night, during your subsequent bar hopping, u can always schedule a meet with another for a diff time. U can either use mamasan, or get theit contact so they can come to you during the day. I might jumping ahead, but seems like you are there only for 1 day, so maybe it doesnt really matter. Anyway, the bar that has the closest selection to the like of moonlight or jupiter in bangkok, or the arena/jeyspa/sabaidee massage, would be Boyzboyzboyz, aka BBB. Surprised that this bar isnt in your line up for a visit.

1000 min tip, 590 + 300, thats 1890. 1900 seems likely?

Finally, jomtien bars are moving in the right direction. Starting with doubleshot bars having their boys shirtless after 10pm, gald to see more bars doing the same. Hope ill have a great time when its my turn going there.

Thank you for the detail report! Enjoyed it very much. Sorry that you have bad experience with sabaidee spa. That guy seems to think that since u chose a top, u immediate wanted to be ravished by his muscular manly and hung dick. Maybe a tip, since language is a barrier, have your phone nearby, so u can use the google translate for communication. Although, most of the time, non verbal communication works too. For example, if i see the guy reaching for a condom, i stop it, and shaking my head, saying not yet. Usually they understood and either continue massage if i wanted massage by gesturing with my hands pinching gesture, or if we are already having fun, they will continue the foreplay. In your case, removing the condom might work too. Its a clear sign you dont want to bottom yet. Since the guy leave your room, he probably thought he made a mistake too and dont know how to communicate to do any rectification. And yes, you are sort of right that if u had use mamasan to communicate what u want, this might be avoided, but then, i find that also a turn off for me, as i like to find things out on my own hehe. So other than telling mamasan who i like and what is the min tip, i rarely ask mamasan anything else. If it didnt work out, i usually take charge and happy with just body worship lol

There is hugs, in soi 4, bar for bears and their admirers. Never been inside there though, just saw the entrance while sittibg at circus. Heaven sauna is also geared towards bears and their admirers. Also never been there as sauna isnt really my scene.

I wonder if the company here, means the mall group or ikea? If its ikea, the ikea branch in KL, Cheras, is right smack in KL city center, so that claim of it being the first ikea city center store in Southeast Asia is bs.

What do u do for fun back home? Do u run a business as well?

White party will be hosted in this new mall too

Undercover police wont care if u want to have sex with a guy. Not with foreign tourists. Ive heard no case of this ever happen here. The few cases that has been documented was the case of muslim having intercourse in public places, or in hotels, massage places, clubs, sauna, etc, based on reports by locals. Even then, non muslims were being released without charges, unless drugs involved. Most of the raids are either immigration related or operating without licenses for the premises. Despite still having the draconian laws on homosexual, its rarely enforced, with the exception in 1998 as a political weapon. That person is our current Prime Minister. But i get your worries. Even grindr here will gives a warning from time to time.

I recalled for your case, you already met with the guy and he is real as it gets. While its usually scam, i actually had one time where i send money to a guy who said he is coming to KL, and he did. Granted, Ive seen him few times before, and he only wanted the cash so that when at the immigration, if asked, he can show that he does have money. But he couldve just choose to keep the money, so im glad he did keep his end.

There have been cases of catfish and scams via grindr. I use it only to contact those MBs i already knows and those who have been reviewed by others. And they usually congregrates at known places that have high concentration of MBs. Generally though, it is safe, but wont hurt to take precautions such as video calls, meet at public places etc prior to meeting at your hotel. I guess this applies to any grindr encounter anywhere else as well. Avoid those who asked for deposit or money upfront, almost always its a scam.

Just did a google search, and i can find the sauna fb page. On massage, apparently one str8 website did mention that the gay centric massage can be found near this sauna too. Another interesting update, the same website mentioned that most of the nightlife scene (str8) has moved to dannok, border city with malaysia. I wonder if the gay ones make the same moves or not.

Songkhla, like many other provinces in thailand, is a province, also a city and the capital for Songkhla province. Hat Yai is a city within Songkhla province. Hat Yai is the biggest city in Songkhla, and a major tourist city for Malaysians, as it is reachable from land border as well, via fast train on malaysian side. Most of the locals are muslim/malay and shares similar cultures and food, and their foods and hotels are cheaper than malaysia, making it very attractive for a visit. Regarding nightlife, being a muslim majortiy area, i can say its much similar with how it is in Malaysia, its there, but everything is not as obvious. Straight establishment maybe easier to find on google, but gays establishment are almost none, unless u consult a local, and they will tell u where. There is one sauna locals and tourists goes to as well, and severals mixed massage places where the male masseurs might be open for more, although finding one might be hit or miss. If you ask me, food is the main drive for most malaysian to go there lol. Halal food are pretty much everywhere, and its as good if not better selection than bangkok especially for Malaysian. Grindr might offer something for you. I know several guys who freelance or work in KL/JB in Malaysia who will go to Hat Yai for visa run, so U might be able to catch them there as well. If you have relatives or BF in northern state of Malaysia, it makes perfect sense to consider Songkhla city or Hat Yai as your retirement city.

You have just captured saving face reality for thais in your story perfectly. What bangkok guy wants and what he must do can be very diff. While his family and sister might not be able to tolerate him not staying with his sister as the mother wants, if it comes from you, a farang, who has been providing to the family, it becomes more tolerable. You have no obligation like what bangkok guy is expected to do and its unfair to ask from you to do the same. Indirectly, bangkok guy wants you to take the blame for his inability to stay with the sister, but he went around with it by not choosing the ideal apartment for that. If you proceed with 2 bedroom apartment, the sister might be tempted or obligated to stay with you guyse forever. Staying in living room might gives a reason for the sister to find her own place sooner as well. Hence the insistent on one bedroom in the beginning, with a larger living room, to show that he at least thinks of his sister. Not sure if i made sense of bangkok guy ways of thinking. But from your story, this is what i understood lol

With poor eyesight and night vision, if u still want to take boys from bars, few things can be done. Make use of mamasan. A good one can show you the boys pics from phone. A better one can ask boys to come to you for you to select after u you told mamasan what type u like. A drink for boys allows u to explore further. Nothing against apps, as i do use it to find guys but nothing beats meeting and choosing the guys in person.

Inalways use mamasan in BBB. Even with a boy i used to take few times, he will call his fav mamasan when i said i want to off him. If u say to a boy u will take him after the show, but didnt pay off fee, he might think either you are not serious or he simply didnt understand you without mamasan being involve. Also, its normal for the boys to hang around the terrace while waiting, especially when they already have someone who off them.

This one happened few times, when less people in the audience. But at least one guy came and got the tips. The OP story on day 1, none of the guy cummed due to low tip despite large crowd. Quite demotivating.

There is also a possibility that she already felt that you have given her so much already, that she doesnt want to further extract more from you by introducing his husband's business. I think most of us will feel ashame when we recieved too much generousity from someone without ever repaying that person.

Not sure about thailand norm, but here in malaysia, we dont contract a company for aircon maintenance. At least most people i know here dont do that. We just called in service company whenever the aircon need to be serviced and they usually will come within a day or two, or if u call in the morning and they arent busy, same day. So if thailand is the same, probably she cant find one since you probably want a company that do a maintenance contract while her husband usually just do service as on call basis? Thats probably why she didnt recommend her husband's company? Just a guess.

Its the first time i hear that they aborted chuckwow show due to low tip. Once before, two guys were on stage, but one didnt finish, coz he couldnt cum even though he try so hard, and it was quite a long time too.

I might add few more massage place, like vck, prince, senso in bangkok to the mix, and helios, somjit and burirom in pattaya. A-bomb, dreamboys, toysboy in pattaya sometimes can have nice surprise.

Small = barely any feeling Medium = u feel it and no pain Big = painful

For me, silom/surawong area is a given. Min 500 is reasonable to me as well. But alas, even very well established prime wouldnt dare put higher min tips, as to a thai, or well known customers, it always means HE a given. Thus why i believe normal massage places tend to put low min or no tips guide at all. If u received more than just massage, i do believe 500 or higher is warranted, more if any sexual favor involved. Again, back home, when this happen in a legit place, which again, rarely do, masseur will brings up expected tips and only proceed if agreed. This also happened in thailand on several occasions. I wonder if your friend masseur did communicate the expected tips since he is providing service beyond massage?

Is the massage center mixed center or legit center? Even in prime, minimum tips is 100/200 baht. So if its a legit center, 300 baht or 150 a customer tips might be something a chinese customer think is ok for a normal massage. If its an obvious extra service massage place, most place will have high min tips, starting 800/1000 usually. The higher end of these usually not spelt out, which can be a bad or a good thing for masseurs, depending on customer. Of course if a center didnt have any min tips, it can be also be a good or bad thing depends on customer. Obviously in this exact example, its not so good for 2 of his customer but good for the one. Back home, for normal massage center here, no such tips are compulsory, though personally, ill usually tips if im satisfied, depending on how long the massage was and how happy i am, and how likely im coming back for the same masseur. Almost always, this results in better experience, or at least equal excellent massage for subsequent visits. Some, rarely though, evolved to a more sensual massage, reaching further to the forbidden area, in which, higher tips is given lol.

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