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U can choose from the line, ive been lucky enough the two times i went there, i found someone my type, and i hardly need to decide who to choose.

Minimum tip is fee, whatever u give on top of that is what the westerners called tips, which is discretionary.

I guess u need to know basic thai to communicate as well with the boys?

I am for the minimum tips. They let u know up front what is the price, the word tips here is just to differentiate where the money goes, fee to the shop, tip to the masseur. So u know how much u need to pay minimum upfront, and if its too much, no need to bother going there. It beats the places where no minimum is stated but then the masseur quote u crazy high tips when u are already super horny and think using your dick head rather than your head lol. Which means u either pay to get release or dont pay and be severely frustrated sexually. U can buy a 10buck shoes or 200 bucks shoes but none of u like to pay 20usd only to know that if u want to use the shoes longer than 20min u have to pay 180usd

I dont need to have people splash water on my face for no reason

Would u enlighten us how do u search for boys on fb?

Thanks to this thread, i am hooked too lol. Any particular muscular type profile i should follow? We could probably make a list lol i can share a few who like to do shows too

Im in the same camp, its either massage or long time for me. So far havent had both. Too shy to ask in the massage center, especially they arent normally do long time.

I also dont like that part of the show. The good thing is i already have the boy sit next to me, so i focus my attention to my boy during that time

I believe vinapu is quoting LT rate, not ST

If they cater both sexes and will not refuse an off, that is very acceptable to me still.

I think that club cater for more sophisticated taste of elite women who wants the man to be young, model look and also educated. Hence it needs to be attractive enough for those guys to work there. Maybe they need more sleazy kind to match the gay scene in silom lol. Pretty sure the chinese women would love that. Looking at their facebook, their guys are almost one type only lol need more variety, or more club to cater for different tastes lol

Why the hell they didnt make a proper gogobar for women where all of the guys are straight? There is a big market in japan specifically for that, i am pretty sure bangkok can live up to that too. It makes life easier for both gay and women alike. Id be frustrated too if the boy i want to off at a gay bar says he cant be with me because he only go with women.

That girl have a hot on u jasper, everyone has their own taste lol apparently her taste fits your appearance

That is what makes visiting the bar again and again exciting, u cant just make generalizations based on one visit by one person. Some have different expectations and different experiences, and some day the boys and other customers are just different than other days. Reports written are from a human being, bound to heavily rely on the human subjectivity. For example, ive been to fresh boys and feel that all but one of their guys meet my standard, while i can see freshboys fans would definitely disagreed with me. It is my own personal opinion, and it shouldnt in any way color the bar's reputation at all. While i am a fan of dreamboys, tawan and jupiter 2018, some visits to these bars arent as good as other visits and that can be due to many reasons, and the top reason usually being none of the available boys are to my liking.

Correct, minimum is minimum regardless of services quality. In fact for arena, in the website its clearly spelled out what does the minimum tips is for. Massage and hj and shower (this sometimes didnt happened but i usually let it go if the massage and extra was great, and if its not great, woudnt want the masseur in the shower with me either lol). Anything more, you are expected to give more than minimum. Like mentioned before, if u feel the masseur skill isnt as expected, change early on within few minutes.

I dont recall any of their faces though, so my choice is purely on their skin and body lol

Because he was disappointed by all the hype about the var and find it not up to the hype. Anyway, that second guy from the left looks awesome enough for me.

Why would they go through the hassle of moving the boys and customer alike to downstair when they can just stay? Weird

I dont think he is doing that, especially 3 places he reviewed are owned by 3 different owners and we all know those 3 places are already have big fans even from veteran members in this forum. But he did posted in too many threads, and even created his own thread as well, which is redundant to say the least. Hence why scooby sent a pm, which is also fair. Scooby posting here maybe because he felt he didnt read the pm. To DrimVoiz, dont get discouraged to post. Trip reports are always welcomed, but posting too much in very short period on the same topics might border to spamming.

Tawan muscular guys, dreamboys model like boys, handsome, and muscular/fit/lean. The like of which u could see in magazines. Tawan, maybe 15-20 boys during peak nights, dreamboys 30-40 boys. Tawan shows are more revealing but dreamboy shows are more artistic, involves rehearsals and training to do. Tawan is located off the main gay streets, dreamboys is in soi twilight. I do believe dreamboys can justify their 100bath extra in drink/entry/show prices due to the above. I asked one of the boy before, each show they join in dreamboys, they get 100baht, and 200 baht for big cock show, and they probably have around 10 acts all together. No idea what tawan guys get for the shows, and they have 4-5 acts, which might be repeated on busy nights. Having said that, each bar have their strong points, and i like both of the bars equally, and jupiter too. Moonlight is my wishlist now. Im not a big fan of bars though, i dont drink, and dont like the loud music, so my opinion is purely on the shows and boys. Id more willing to buy drinks for boys in jupiter though, but prefer to just tip boys in tawan/dreamboys. So in the end of the day, my budget is still my control. Also dreamboy boys knows their bar is expensive, so they are more willing to give their contact and have us take them without going to the bar each time.

Can i know as well? Lol

Ive only heard of high tea being used in malaysia for an upscale british/western style tea with a buffet of pastries. Afternoon tea is just normal tea in the afternoon instead of morning, with 1-2 type of local delicacies (can be sweet or savory snacks).

While i can see why #55 is the most popular guy, he wouldnt be my first choice to off.

Vinapu, yes those will be grandfathers but there will always other younger maybe better boys will come into to business down the road lol