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Its hard if you ever plan to see him again in the future. Otherwise, its pretty easy to ignore in my case. I also noticed some boys will just broadcast messages to all his potential/previous clients once in a while or in case of freelance with tourist visa, whenever he is in town. This one is easier to ignore

We will missed each other by 1 day! Im going there tomorrow and will leave july 11.

I go with the same mantra when i travel together with someone like minded. But its hard to find one, and harder to find one and get the time aligned, so it is much easier to just travel solo, and meet other like minded travelers along the way. Even when travel with guys, i know its important to give them some alone time. This can be as simple as more time to sleep, or gym time or time for them to call their parents/family etc.

Another great summary report! Thank you for your contribution

Thank you for another great trip report! Worth the wait!

A quick google shows that the location is in between adams apple and new circle club along the same big road, changphuak

No term for group of girls?

Bangkok also have a few that still have plenty of boys that will be available for you to choose inside the center. One in particular, has no pic of masseur available through website or line. Reason was to protect their masseurs confidentiality. Arena has never disappoint me though with their selection of hunks muscular masseurs available. Vck on the other hand, has both line updates of who is available on the day, and very large number of boys available on site. Similar can be said for massage places in silom soi 6, where most available masseurs will be there for choosing. But their line also have listing of boys, but might not be updated. I actually prefer to go and choose the guy myself, given that tendency of inaccurate/old pics is high, but jeyspa and vck photos are quite accurate, thus for these two, id usually book ahead. For arena, early booking is possible if u know the massuer's name.

Sorry, what is abc+?

Yup consistent with google map lol

Google map says 24min walk to patpong hehe.

Given the popularity of hugs bar for bear and chasers, its only a matter of time those guys make way to the new the one bar. My experience with tawan is mixed bag as well. Seems like they do have a lot of freelancer that comes whenever they want, which could explains the mixed reviews. These rare gem usually comes when they need money, or when they are free only. Sadly, i dont think there is a pattern, but i guess if they have regular job, weekend nights might be when they will make appearance for some extra cash? Sadly, the permanent exhibit of old tawan and i guess The One as well fits the recents trip reports.

I think u can buy ticket online. Havent done it myself but that could avoid the long waiting in peak time

Im more a shorter stay guy, mainly due to work but recently, i tried going for a 2 week long in thailand, and i didnt regret it one bit. Granted, i do split my time between bangkok and pattaya. The last few visits, i rarely did bangkok or pattaya sight seeing anymore, so i added in side trips, such as chiang mai, vientiene, hua hin, kanchanaburi etc. I do have an advantage of living near to thailand (2.30 hour flight) so shorter trips is more desirable but sometimes work schedule make it easier to just take leaves at the end of the year, when most people takes their leaves. Thus the longer trip. I just finished a work trip that is 3 long weeks, and i pretty much cant wait to return home. I guess 2 weeks or less is my sweet spot.

Nice boy pattaya bar lived exactly on tips for gays who pays for boys to chuckwow and cum.

Ive never book a place to watch firework before but ive been in bangkok and pattaya during new year few times. Roof top restaurants/bars usually have a dinner/drink/firework packages that u can book, some can be quite expensive though. Furama silom roof top has one annually. Booking a higher tier room there could also work, but like u already guess, the rate during that night is high, can be triple the normal rate.

I consider myself very picky, but even then, ive had some duds before. But i still consider bars to be the preferred way to get my guy of the night, as i preferred LT, and its the bar that gives me higher rate of willing guys. Many masseurs arent even willing to meet outside their workplace, even less that are willing to take LT after whole day working at the center. Though i blame myself too as i rarely make effort to take them off site as i like the massage table better when getting massage. Plus considering they can get more per hour in the center, especially if they are popular, its hard to motivate them to be with you LT, unless you are willing to be more generous. I wouldnt bank on straight top guy to bottom for you either. Very unlikely itll lead to a satisfaction ending.

If you are offing the boys who seats with you, then a tip is not needed. But if u are sending him off without an off, after sitting with you for a while, yes, it is customary to tip. 100 baht is enough. I rarely tip mamasan unless he is helpful. Usually, this means his service leads to me offing a boy, LT. Pushy mamasan gets nothing from me.

Sounds like u just got cock blocked by jake. Not sure what is your arrangement on his tips, but i recall u said jake's didnt expect any tips, another signs of he wanted more than just a hired guy. Hope you and jake will find a way to make it work hehe.

Language barrier is always a challenge when it comes to chemistry, but i do find that using key words with thai accent helps them understand better. This works in other countries and languages as well, even when i speak malay in indonesia, if i imitate their accent, itll be easier for them to understand me. Ive observed similar thing in vietnam, japan and korea as well. One particular incident in vietnam made me realize this. I was ordering an ice tea, from the counter at the cinema, where they sell lipton ice tea in the bottle. After repeating few times in clear standard english, with him not understanding what im saying, i resorted to sign language and pointed to the bottled drink behind him. Immediately he says, ooooo "aih" tea. So afterward, i tried few times imitating their accents, and definitely improves the communication hehe.

Jupiter have diff pricing for alcoholic drinks? I do know bars do have diff price for cocktails but simple beer should be included in the price no? Thanks for sharing your experience! It has been a great read! I somehow still very hesitant to off from jupiter. There are plenty of signs from your story that would definitely made me not off the guy. Mamasan saying he is str8 when u want to off him could be one sign too, as there are guys there who wont go with gay customers, or would do absolute minimum if mamasan push them. That said, i did have few good off from jupiter too. These are those who i know is gay, or had taken from elsewhere before, or simply had good chemistry in the bar before i off them. My fav bar for hiring muscular guys are tawan and moonlight. Hope u have a chance to visit moonlight too.

Similar concerned was raised by my doctor when i asked about doxy-prep. He is against it, especially when it comes to public health issues like antibiotic resistance issue. He went on explaining that within the health ministry, there is a very strict guide on prescribing antibiotics for certain diseases, to ensure risk of developing and spreading of antibiotic resistance strain to be kept at minimum. The way i understands it, they will switch the use of different kind of antibiotic for certain period of times for similar diseases, especially with regards to stds.

If I used this perspective, ill have to pay thai price or lower since its cheaper to hire a guy here in my country... So i rather see the min tips, or going rate by trusted members as my minimum and add on top based on my satisfaction.

Do you pay your food, hotel and other stuff by this same perspective as well?

Nice boys in pattaya might be a cheaper option? If they still do chuck wow for 300-500 per boy per chuckwow.