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Thanks a lot Planetime. I'll be there 4 nights. I like to pay around $100, but if need be - for location I'll pay more. If Raya isn't noisy, I'll stay there. May I exhaust your patience by asking venues, shows, rates, etc.? I like them more than twinks but less than body builders; preferably very well endowed.

Thank you both. I didn't know there are so few venues worthy of tourists' attention. )-: Please excuse me for the following technical questions, but support isn't responding. 1) For weeks now I have a log-in problem. after logging-in, when progressing to one of the forums - I find myself logged-out and need to log-in again. Sometimes the 2nd log-in doesn't work. Are you familiar with this problem? 2) The posts I've posted this last week (including THIS one) do not appear in the forum itself. I see then only on the general forums page, as "recently posted". Why is that?

Thanks guys. I'm not well acquainted with BKK's geography. I mean close to Soi Twilight, and Planetime mentioned Surawong. If I understand correctly the latter is a major street in the former... ? I stayed at the Tartawan circa 10 years ago, but I've read that nowadays it has deteriorated and is problematic with visiting boys. Is that true? I AM looking for the comforts mentioned. How about The Rose and Montien? I've read that until recently they were within a construction zone. Still true? Meridian, Red Planet, Amari, Heritage, Trinity? Any recommendations or warnings? I am looking for a comfort hotel, as close as possible to the fun, and no problems with visiting boys. Thanks again. PS - why does this thread not appear (at least on my PC) in the Asia forum?

Hi Guys, Circa 10 years ago someone directed me to a webpage with a big hand-drawn map, showing streets, gay sex venues, and hotels. Please direct me again to an updated one. Thanks (-:

Hi Guys, What's the updated info about the nearest hotels to the fun zone? A good hotel within walking distance, that allows boys to the room? Can anyone recommend a driver+car for one day excursions outside BKK ? Thanks (-:

Hi Guys, What's the updated info about the nearest hotels to the fun zone? A good hotel within walking distance, that allows boys to the room? Can anyone recommend a driver+car for one day excursions outside BKK ? Thanks (-:

Hi Guys, Where is the best balance between - or combination of - sightseeing and sexhaving in the south? Kosomoi? Phuket? Kophiphi? anywhere else? Would appreciate as many updated views, reasons, descriptions and details as possible. Thanks

Quote: Manhattan Rios ".....on Sat from 11:00 pm to 5:00 am reopens as a non sauna sex club". What does that mean? What goes on and doesn't go on in a non-sauna sex club?

Thx Zazzu, I'll surely report. Meantime, I browsed KOC. It looks as if NOBODY bottoms, and only a few top. At TK it's almost the same. Do they really flourish and prosper without any fucking? Also NO big/long dicks. Any chance of finding a guy who's cut? What does "3P - 3 thumbs" mean?

Thanks a lot Zazzu. I'll be there late October. I understand that in 24 there's public and private sex. Moneyboys or free?

Hi Guys, For those who wish to partake of SP before the saunas open at the afternoon, here are the places I enjoyed two weeks ago. Hope all the photos will upload, and in the order detailed here: Museu de Arte de SP; Parque de Ibirapuera - monumento, Oscar Niemeyer, Museu Afro-brazil; the artificial tunnel view from the Banespa building - a MUST, and SP skyline.

The day after my visit at Mezzaninu, I was at Lagoa. I liked the layout; seemed more relaxed than 117. It's also the only Brazilian sauna I've visited with a hot water jaccuzi, though unfortunately the water wasn't that hot. Unlike 117, the straight porn room at the top was continuously empty; I fondly remember the one in 117, for the abundance of huge erections being wanked. To my disappointment, I couldn't really find a catch to my liking. Most guys were big-musceled or unattractive. Very few were cock exhibiting, which for me is a telling sign. I was there from before 6 till after 8; there were circa 15 patrons and 30 garotos; didn't see even one couple heading for a cabin. 3-4 guys approached me, but left me when I declined. Another was attractive and we talked-stammered for some time, but he wasn't endowed enough for me. I told him "maybe later" and he left pleasantly. There was one garoto who was really overly persistent. The minute I walked in he suggested he'll show me around. My "nao obrigado" left him unfazed, and he would come back every 5 minutes with a new idea. At some point I told him he was wasting his time since he's not my type. He left, but 10 minutes later joined me in the jaccuzi and started wanking me. Since jaccuzi sex is one of my favorites I played along, but succeeded in thinking also with the other head - reminding him every couple of minutes that this won't change my mind. He gets an A+ for his optimitic resolve and an F for realism..... I ended up in a programa with Igor: really thin, big smile, even bigger dick. I told him he didn't need to cum, we settled on 150, and I paid 180. As I was dressing up in the locker room, the persistent/wanking guy pushed a note into my hand asking for R40 - his "exit fees". I said no, because I didn't want to encourage his sticky manner. That's Igor's power of persuation:

Giving back after taking from this forum..... Since I was forewarned that Tuesday is a dud, I went there early Wednesday (had to fly out that evening). At 4:30 I was almost the only seeker. Apparently it's enough for a newbie not to speak Portugese to merit special care. Without a hint from me, the receptionist called the english-speaking owner-manager. Roy asked if I needed any help, I said no (given my Rio experience), but he nevertheless imparted some wisdom: the customary rate is R100; if you enjoyed the boy very much - do not give him more than 150..... The place was squeaky clean; each of the 2 towels was nylon-wrapped; I liked the layout better than 117's. Entering the shower, I met Lucas who left the water running for me. He is just my type (see photo enclosed), and being short on time - after showering I looked for him. He was softly flirtatious, hugging, stroking, offering his endowment. When I asked for his rate, he surprised me with "80", and off we went. We spent 30 minutes together, and he was really into satisfying me; VERY generous with his kissing and flexible on all matters oral. Per instructions, I paid 150, which made him happy as well, and departed for my flight. Probably won't be back to POA, but fortunately for me - he generously obliged me with souvenir photos.

Are these good timing?

Hi Guys, I have only these 2 nights in PA. Is the sauna open and alive on these evenings? Thx (-:

Hi Guys, I went through the archive, and learned 3 things: Most saunas don't like westerners. There's this brothel http://www.kocnet.jp/english/index.html and this one https://kids-jp.com/en/tk/s/ Can anyone contribute any kind of updated tips? Anything on Kyoto? Thx (-:

About a year ago there was a lengthy and hot-detailed post here about glory-holes "cabanas" in Bogota, and how simple it is to go beyond the hole-action there. I'll be visiting in July. Could anyone please offer details, locations, safety, MO, etc.... Thx

I meant a sauna that offers a hot tub. Apparently there's none....

Of course I assumed there'd be tons of garotas saunas, but I was hoping some of you might be in a position to recommend specific places..... Are there any forums, like this one, where customers discuss and give tips?

Hi Guys, A straight friend - shocked to hear from me about the garotos scene - wants to join me on my July trip to Brazil. Are there any saunas with garotAs for our unfortunate straight brethrens? Any guidance would be appreciated. Thx (-:

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Torogen, Would you know if there are specific days and times-of-day in which one would expect to find high activity at the Chilli Pepper's gloryholes?

Hi Guys, 1) Many posters suggested my assertive policy might be petty, mainly because quality is a subjective matter. However, I wasn't referring to normal disappointments, but rather to Sanddunes' and my (and others') experiences of outright cheating like promising to suck and then refusing. THESE GUYS SHOULD NOT BE PAID. 2) I speak only a few words in Portuguese, but I refuse to let that make me a sucker encouraging cheats. 3) I'm fearful of contact with Brazilian police like all here. However, as someone commented - the manager mentioned them first; I just called their bluff. When I clicked on the phone, it was just fake. BTW, had the police arrived, of course I wouldn't have complained to them about the garoto not sucking. My complaint would've been that the manager wouldn't open the door for me (which is a bit like kidnapping). 4) True, my behavior made me persona-non-grata, but I don't want to return there anyway. I've had my share of disappointing programas, and always paid. This was my first (and to date) only cheat in Brazil. I have no wish to return to a sauna where management backs up cheating. I urge all of you: DON'T PAY CHEATS. Not in Brazil, not anywhere, and not only regarding sex service.

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Hi Guys, Sanddunes reported several instances in which he paid even more than agreed to GPs who basically cheated him in various ways. It's my impression he isn't the only one who does so, and I don't understand why. Every time you do it, you not only get shortchanged but also ensure that the GP will continue scamming others. I had one such experience at the sauna near the Rio beach (don't remember if its NMM or 202), 5 minutes into the session. [I reported it here back then in detail.] I told the guy I'm leaving the room without payment. He got very angry, accompanied me to the reception, where I explained the situation. The receptionist and the manager told me I must pay, blocking my exit; I refused; they threatened to call the police; and I said "no need, I'll call them myself" and started clicking my phone. They relented immediately. I urge all of you, for all our sakes, to refuse payment to cheats. It has nothing to do with sex. Most guys here sometimes mention the need for decent respect toward these working guys. I VERY MUCH concur. I expect the same from them. Since I don't pay other service providers when they cheat me, there's no reason to pay sex providers.