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Thank you Xperiel VERY much for this insightful guidance. "Only upon sitting with a guy you will be able to asses his language and endowment." Language - sure, but endowment?! Do they flash it or put your hand on it, like in Latino saunas?!

Hi Guys, There are a number of seasoned travellers to Cuba in this forum, who stayed in a casa and reccommend verifying in advance there'd be no problem with bringing in 'boys'. Please recommend casas you've stayed in (warn against them?) or others enjoying good reputation, in terms of location, quality, rates AND boys-hospitality. Thanks (-:

No Gag, Please share names, addresses, rates of the various venues. I'll be there February. Is cruisinggays.com reliable? Since there are no dates there, I've always felt the info might be VERY outdated.....

Thanks Oz, A smile a day keeps the doctor away. So now I learned the basic rate for a ST is 2500. How much is an "off"? a tip at the table? Which bars are better? For the type I'm looking for? I'll be there three nights: Satur, Sun, Mon: any nights better/worse in any bars? Where and when are the best shows? Aything to do there during the day? Newbie questions.....thought I was there once, 10 years ago...

Thx, but that's not the case. That forum is filled with recent posts, all of them by seasoned visitors who are so well aquainted with everything there, so they don't even mention the basics. I tried to sift through those posts, but it's way too much reading to find basic details like how much is a conventional off.... I hope someone here would agree to devote 5 minutes to laying out basic updated info. (-:

Hi Guys, I'll be there Nov 15-19; will anyone be around? Since the intense discussion of the "new geography", almost nothing has been published. Please share updated info regading the basics: Where and when are the bests? what/whom to avoid? normal rates? Massage, shows/competitions? specific MBs recommended? Thanks. PS - my taste: lean-masculine, not muscle builders; smooth and shaved; size matters a lot - length over girth; preferrably uncut; english-speakers - a big plus.

Thank you Pauliero for this helpful Cuba summary. I posted one on the Dominican Republic; come February I'll be visiting both. 2 follow-up questions regarding this paragraph: "Service : average : 20/30 CUC. Can go down to 15 or even 10 and up to 40 and more (locals pay 5 to 20 CUC) . No discussion as in Brazil on what is going to be performed and for how much. Average monthly salary for Cuban is 25 CUC" 1) "No discussion" could mean either they're willing to do anything, or problemas in bed. Which is it? 2) The rate for a meeting really equals a monthly salary?! 1 meeting per day turns a pingero into a local millionaire?!

English aside, my favorite physical attributes are: lean-masculine not bodybuilding-muscular; biggest/longest cock possible, but not too thick; uncut; smooth and shaved. Which venues are best for this type? Which mamasans will be most helpful? I guess I can say all this to a mamasan, but is it customary to tell this also to waiters? Is it ok to ask to see his endowment before committing?

Right on! I've been wondering for years, since my firsts visits to BKK and Rio, why these providers aren't quick to see the financial benefit in mastering English.....

I'm glad to stand corrected, Oz. Your mention of Hot Male Bar is a perfect example of what I'm looking for: a place to find english speakers. If you and others could point me to likewise bars and mamasans, I'd be thankful. If whatsapp numbers of recommended 'boys' could be shared - even better! I'm looking for something inbetween a one-night BFE and a tourguide: a guy who's satisfying in bed AND nice to hang out with a couple of day while exploring the city. No need for any tour-guide experience/capabilities.

Thx Oz, but I was under the impression none of them speak English.....

Hi Guys, I'm looking for an English-speaking (at least basic-medium) local sex-provider to accompany me during a BKK visit next month. Is the idea too naive? Does anyone know someone to recommend? Where and how do I search on my own, before flying over? apps / websites? middlemen? Thanks (-:

Did the "blessing" diminsh, or his photography skill? (-:

Floridarob, thx for sharing. The Centro Hapton Inn is a 2-stars hotel; does it show? Bringing in guys is permissible?

Thank you VERY much SolaceSoul for your very helpful response. I'll probably use the contacts therein. One follow-up question regarding the last paragraph: any particular way to "just show up and meet someone" who speaks at least a little English?

Hi Guys, I'm looking for an English-speaking (at least basic-medium) guy to accompany me in Havana and/or Vinales. Does anyone know someone to recommend? Where and how do I search on my own? Apps / websites? Middlemen? Is the whole idea too naive? Is it impossible because of the prohibition against hosting a local im ny accomodations? Thanks (-:

https://www.gaydomrep.com/Gay_Dominican_Republic.php Has anyone met him or done business with him?

Hi Guys, As with my previous summary (regarding sex), this too isn't based on first-hand knowledge but on posts here. Thanks again to our generous forum members for sharing. Again, please feel free to correct and add. It'd be usefull to know more about costs: How much is a taxi ride from the airport; how much are Manny's tour/driving services; accommodation rates; etc. Also, please share about tourism sites in and around SD. Accommodation: “On your first trip, as a pasty white gringo, even with a little Spanish on your tongue, you’re probably much safer at one of the hotels that is accustomed to sex tourists in the Colonial Zone (Palacio, the Romas, Discovery, etc.) than at an apartment. These hotels also take copies of or keep the cedulas (ID cards) while the visitor is in the room. As an added safety precaution, you can tell the front desk not to return the ID until you call them from your room or come down with the visitor for him to retrieve it.” “If your budget allows I would highly recommend the Boutique Hotel Palacio on Calle Duarte: in the heart of the colonial zone, very accommodating, does not charge extra for an overnight guest [there IS a charge for breakfast of course], lovely colonial era building, and good service.” “If ever in need of a nice, clean, spacious, safe place that’s close to all the action then do a google search for Paseo Colonial. They have studios or 1 and 2 bedroom apartments for rent, and the building is absolutely beautiful. These units are also available on Airbnb. If Etienne is the owner of the apartment you are renting then you’re in good hands because he’s a terrific guy. We’ve been renting his units for 2 years now and they are modernly decorated and clean. Additionally, the building is close to the Malecon and colonial zone. It’s gated and safe. There is also a 24 hours doorman.” “Airbnb: https://es.airbnb.com/rooms/5238997?s=51 The apartment has 2 bedrooms and 2 bath. it is in a very secure building with 24 hours friendly security. The owner is a very kind guy. He actually has 3 other units in this very clean complex, with lots of extras.” “Casa Sanchez looks quite nice. Though not a 'gay hotel' like Adam [which has taken a dive], it is apparently gay-owned and gay-friendly, presumably accustomed to same-sex couples using the lower courtyard pool, rooftop hot-tub, outside pool table, etc.” “TAU Casa Conde by Paco's (aka Grand) would be a place to which you would have to be more direct inviting the guy to your room, and entering is publicly more visible. While not necessarily a great place to stay, it would be affordable to some as a secondary base exclusively for sex. It is more definably geared for that, for female guests of male punters, though a regular hotel.” “Hodelpa Colonial on Isabel La Católica, running a few steps north from El Conde east end (Parque Colón). Some street-side units had small terraces with unremarkable views and extensive din right under your nose. Good breakfast. Gym. No pool.” “There is Roma 1 and Roma 2 – OK, but a lot of rowdy female oriented tourists.” Money Exchange: “The name of the money exchange establishment is CASA DE CAMBIO FRANK EL AZUANO. It’s in the colonial zone, two stores down from THE PALACIO HOTEL, next to a cigar shop.” “Paco’s / Grand’s clandestinely acts as a cambio for exchange of USD (I assume also CAD and EUR, but not sure). They provide as close to the actual exchange rate as I’ve seen. If you have a reasonable (not really huge) amount of US dollars and you need them converted into DOP (or vice versa), also try Paco’s since it’s open 24/7. Eating: “DUO and Pizza Hut are still my favorite restaurants to eat and cruise, especially in the evenings from 6 pm. At the Pizza Hut, order your food inside and sit on the outside patio with your chair facing the strip so you can see the guys walking by. You're bound to make eye contact, and find a sexy guy to take back to your apartment.” “There is a very nice restaurant in the middle of the colonial zone called DUO. The American Breakfast there is delicious.” Driver Jesus 1 809 432 0999

Riobard, nothing came up. Before summarizing, I read all DR posts from the last two years. At least, I think I did.....

Riobard, could you ask these "pimpos" if they wish their contact info to be shared? they should welcome free advertisments.....

SolaceSoul, thanks for the correction. I take it as a compliment that a top Gay-DR expert such as yourself found only one correction in my compilation..... (-: I guess you can't share any contact info for Freddy, Fransisco or any of the venues mentioned. OTOH, please do write something about the 2 questions I posed under "miscellaneous" (language barrier, overnight rate). Thx

Hi Guys, I'm planning a visit to the DR. While reading thorugh threads of the past 2 years for tips, I decided to organize the info for the benefit of all newbies. Therefore, the info below isn't based on personal experience; it's the combined product of forum members who've been there and are generous with their knowledge: TennisAce, SolaceSoul, Kevie, Riobard, NoGagSuck, and others (apologies for omitting important names). In a future post I'll summarize tips regarding accommodation and other non-sex issues. Anyone with any first-hand experience in the DR is VERY MUCH encouraged to offer comments, additions, updates and especially corrections. In CAPITAL LETTERS I inserted questions and requests, but please don't limit yourself to these points. Thanks, and happy hunting. (-: Manny (1 809 353 9262) offers tourism services (guide, driver etc.), including gay hook-ups FP. When requested, he sends photos of boys on Whatsapp 2-3 weeks in advance. “Manny will bring the guy, and text you when he is outside. You go outside, pay him 1500 pesos, and the guy goes in with you. When you’re finished, you pay him 2000 pesos.” When there’s a 3some with 2 clients, the guy gets double. "Manny’s fee is per guy for first meeting. Afterwards, you can contact the guy directly." TennisAce: “Manny is a man of many hats. I've known guys to hire Manny as their guide/bodyguard at gay clubs in Santo Domingo, because the person was too apprehensive about going out alone. Manny provides many services. Hit him up, he’s one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet.” “Manny tends toward the bigger muscle type guys. For twinks, your go-to guy is Freddy.” His email address is: alwaysreadyfreddy@hotmail.com , but he doesn’t respond. IF ANYONE HAS HIS CURRENT WHATSAPP NUMBER, PLEASE POST IT (AFTER ASKING HIS PERMISSION). There’s another guy called Fransisco, who’s “Paco cafeteria’s unofficial gay tour guide”. There’s no contact info for him in the threads. He can be found at Paco’s, or you can leave him your number there to call you back. Apparently he doesn’t procure guys, but will take you to the “house”/brothel outside SD or to the prison (see below). Apollo Spa: ANYONE IN THE KNOW, PLEASE SHARE THE WHATSAPP NUMBER OF THIS PLACE. “It’s somewhat an older crowd, lots of 40ish Dominicans but it ranges from 18-50ish. It’s just like any other sauna you would find in any city: you walk in, strip down to underwear and towels or birthday suit and towel. Downstairs is a bar, showers and hot tub; upstairs is the sauna, video room and dark room. It’s also extremely hot, so stay hydrated. Most of the action goes down upstairs. The two times I went I didn’t see a single bugarron, which was both a positive and negative. Overall I definitely had fun and will go back for my next visit.” IS THERE REALLY NO AC OR VENTILLATION IN ANY OF THE SPACES?! Juan Binbin massage place = sex house: ANYONE IN THE KNOW, PLEASE SHARE THE WHATSAPP NUMBER OF THIS PLACE. Calle Emillo Prud'Homme 26, “the bawdy place to be expected”. “For average and twinky; muscle, hunks or models – not there.” NoGagSucker: “One horny night, I took an Uber to the Juan binbin sex house in a dicey area. I was greeted at the security gate by Juan and two sex workers, both youngish and sexy. We went upstairs to the welcome area and soon I was surrounded by 6-7 boys and they each took out their cocks, to stroke or shake their meat. All were under 30 and varying shade of Dominican black. I wasn't aware of any other client in the club and I was there around 10.30 pm on a Friday night. I wasn't crazy about the rushed vibe but it was the operating standard. I sized up the most appealing cocks, found the uncut dick I most wanted in my mouth, and Juan sent the other boys away. He asked me to buy a beer, but I don't drink so he requested the $50 fee and the boy was soon leading me down a hallway to a small room. We entered, he turned on the AC and took off his underwear as I strapped on my knee pads. This fella was soon hard and had an enormous rod that was too big for my throat, but I sure had a good time throating as many of his hard inches as I could. At just under an hour, it was a satisfying enough experience but I didn't go back. I would have, but what with it being in a terrible and isolated neighborhood, a rushed atmosphere that was very unwelcoming especially in the context of how beautifully laid back the rest of the Santo Domingo was, and the general boredom of the dude I chose to blow; I wasn't the least bit interested in going back. Certainly happy to have checked it out!” Others: “Juan is open during the day, and is only an 8 minute walk from Paco’s in the very center of the old city. It’s no more “dicey” than anything else in Zona Colonial.” “What IS consistent about Juan Binbin is the selection of boys, which is never great.” Narsisco’s House = brothel: ANYONE IN THE KNOW, PLEASE SHARE THE WHATSAPP NUMBER OF THIS PLACE. “The house is in the small town of San Cristobal 45 minutes away, and it’s called Casa del Campo. Safety or other risks would NOT be an issue there, and you can easily get a driver to take you there, wait for you, and take you back.” Manny and Fransisco also offer this service. TennisAce reported the drive is interesting/beautiful, with Manny explaining the view. “You would fall in love with that place, but all his boys do cost. At one time it was 1500 pesos $30 per boy but now I hear it’s gone up to 2000 pesos $40. His finder’s fee is 2000 pesos if alone, and 1000 if a part of a group.” “Just let him know a day in advance so Narsisco can prepare the boys.” It’s a laid back place, where you can hang out in a welcoming atmosphere with other guests before-between-after sessions. “many BIG cocks!” Cine Lido – 342 Avenida Ramon Martin Mella: It’s a typical old school adult theatre for sex shenanigans (one large screen playing porn in an old dark unsanitary theatre and a bathroom with bathroom smells), where local men carry on in dark spaces. Open all nights (contrary to the online ad stating it’s closed on weekends), and Sunday is the busiest. NoGagSucker: “Made it to Cine Lido on Monday night and was advised it was a slow night. Over the course of 90 minutes about forty men passed through the place. Only 150 pesos or 3 bucks get in. One dude wanted payment and I firmly told him no. All action was in the seats or against the walls. Nothing went on in the brightly lit restroom.” NGS posted about many satisfying BJs there. The Prison: Kevie: “the prison is exactly as we said: a prison where a selection of guys are made available for you to have a conjugal visits with [for 1500 pesos]. The guards don’t watch. And yes it’s as safe as having sex in a prison can be. When you want to go just ask Fansisco about it and he will take you there.” All other experienced forum members cautioned against visiting there, with TennisAce citing Manny in length. If you go, make sure it’s with a group as big as possible. Boca Chica beach: “There’s a crazy number of women offering up their goods, second only to Sosua on the northern coast. There are also beautiful Dominican men in little shorts and sometimes just wet underwear, but most are looking for women and they will assume you are too. The Colonial Zone is really the only “gay” area.” Miscellaneous: Street hook-ups can be found on Calle El Conde throughout the day, and at Park Duarte starting at nightfall. – HOW DO YOU HOOK-UP WITHOUT SPEAKING SPANISH? IS GOOGLE TRANSLATE SO EFFECTIVE?? “Grindr boys are sending me cock photos; most are fine pieces of meat and the standard fee seems to be 40 bucks (2000 pesos) to suck them.” “Most guys end up bottoming, as long as you are willing to pay 2500 pesos.” At least some guys are glad to be contacted on the phone even in the wee small hours of the night. “Hardly any of the guys speak English.” “Anyone who hooks up or even has sex talk with ANYONE in the DR before verifying the age on their cedula (government issued ID) is begging for legal trouble [either from the authorities or from extortionists]. By law, all adult Dominican citizens must carry the cedula on their person.” “With quality guys the standard overnight rate is 3000 pesos, about $60USD.” – THIS RATE DOESN’T MAKE SENSE, GIVEN THAT THE FEE FOR 60-90 MINUTES IS AROUND 2500 PESOS..... TennisAce: “Guys, if you are looking for the ULTIMATE BOYFRIEND experience, find a guy in Santo Domingo and take him to the Hard Rock resort in Punta Cana. We paid about $2400US for the 4 of us for 2 days, but it was so worth it. We made it perfectly clear that because we were paying for transportation to and from Santo Domingo, for excursions at the resort and for their daily costs, we wouldn't be paying the usual fee for sex. They didn’t have a problem with it. They were both excited to go.” “The Dominicans I've met have been the most persistent in asking for money via email or messages [after we’d parted or I’d gone home], even when you say no 3 times.”

Thx NoGag for sharing. According to the first three sentences, is one to understand you familiarized yourself with the dude's cock even before you reached your aprtmnt....? (-: And to more serious questions: Since you twice mentioned "uncut", are there local guys who're cut? Please expand regarding costs of Manny's guy and of second (apparently direct) hookup. How much does Manny charge for airport pickup? Also, name of sauna? Working boys there? Thx in advance (-:

Thx all. I went with Tarntawan. Will report.

Sure it does! Thx M4W!!