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Londoner, I m not sure whether ur last post was aimed (also?) at me. As far as I m concerned, ur comments didnt "fall on stony ground"; and I m not "dismissive" of anyone's preferences. In fact I wish all those involved all the best. All I asked was why, at least in some cases, the love exhibited by support doesnt manifest itself also in togetherness.....

Vinapu, if they realize that - why the support?

These farangs - who support young locals bcs they believe there's love btw them - why dont they move in together (in Thailand or at home) and get married (officially or not)?

I havent heard better English in Thailand.....

Rob, I prefer Latin America to SE Asia. However, isnt the "small(er) dicks" an empirical fact, just like other physical dfrncs btw various human races?

Any rcmndations or warnings regarding massage venues? Best on the beach Bua siam Burirom Foxy smile Jomtien health Pattaya Soda The beach

Ooops, sorry; just saw the address. Thx again!

Thx 2648! Cld u pls share a link?

Havent been there, but I can offer a universal negative tip: When he is not ur type, "just say no".

Gaybutton, Any tips on how / where to find English-speakers? Translator interaction isnt for me..... )-:

Does not approaching mean they feel the market favors them? Any dfrnc btw Thais and Cambodians in dick size?

How does offing work in non-gogo settings? Am I to assume that every young man I see in the complex or in any of its bars is a sex worker, and just initiate a Translator-conversation?

I researched both here and on the other website. My google map is full of blues for hotels, greens - food, yellow stars - tourism, red hearts - sex venues. Questions: 1) If I understand correctly (on Sawatdee it's explicit), there are no gogo bars in Jomtien Complex; only host bars and saunas. Why then is it so popular, including staying at hotels there? Aren't most members here interested in the two action zones (SP, BT)? What am I missing? 2) Someone mentioned 40-50% (loud) women audience at BBB. Is that always like that? Also at other venues?? For me, it spoils the atmosphere...

Thx guys. I shld have been more precise: I have to choose a 3-weeks period between nov 1 and dec 15. No Christmas...

R there still covid limitations there?! Didnt they get the memo ?

Hi Guys, Any reason to prefer one of these two months for a visit in Pattaya and the islands? Thanks (-:

At least in north america there r guys who present their wares to males, but won't go beyond that. And those who r willing to b sucked, but not beyond. Or those willing to top but not to btm....

..... and the straights r not gay 4 pay ?

Olddaddy, with ur permission, I find ur question.....odd. Is there any social convention that precludes being nice within a business interaction..... ? To answer ur question: yes, I do. I dont send flowers to my GP or plumber, but I do send every now and then to my drycleaner and my car mechanic. Whenever I feel they deserve it for an above-and-beyond attitude. I applaud Ichigo, and I thank him for sharing the link. Hope I'll have reason to use it. (-:

Do all of u farangs, mingling and conversing with locals, do that in Thai or English or Translator? The question is also pertinent to farangs taking one or more guys with u to one or more days together: how do u interact with them? Translator is tiring for long durations.....

Olddaddy, U might want to take a look at the thread titled "farang fraternizing".....

Thx Speedoo for the encouraging report.

Well, I started this thread in order to spread comaradship (-: It led to strolls down memory lanes, which turned morbid.... )-:

Hi Guys, Since I find the seperation between destinations and businesses confusing, here is a link to the Sillon Rojo thread with my addition: https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/37165-sillón-rojo-club/

Hi Guys, Since my hotel was around the corner from this establishment, I popped in twice. I didnt see the number mentioned in Macdaddi's post: 65b-22. Actually the door is btw 24 and 20, without a number above it. It's to the right of a red awning. I went on Thursday 21:30. Enterance fee 20,000. The place IS very small; layout has apparently changed. When entering, in the first space there's reception&bar on the right and lockers on the left. Passing through plastic black curtain stripes, the second space is divided to two. The left side is lighted. 2 couches in front of 2 porn screens; a partial partition btw them, with 3 GH. This isnt a setup inviting GH activity. As I entered, there were 3 guys making out on the main sofa, for a short while. In the right dark side, there's a corridor leading to a dirty toilette cubicle. On the left there's a U-turn to the dark room, with a fucking platform (no sling). I was told dress code - nude/undies. There were about 10 guys there, mostly nude. Only when I left I was told it was adultos night. I was the only adult; nobody showed any interest at me (I dont blame them). Most were in their 20s; a couple of 30s; a few chubby-fat. Only one attracted me. As usual the guys were walking around stony-faced, gravitating to the darkroom. I positioned myself at its corner enterance, leading to a number of gropes in both directions. During my 30 mnts there, I wittnessed two sessions on the fucking platform, with 3-4 voyeurs around jerking off. Didnt see or hear anyone cumming. I shortly sucked 3 times. The whole experience was rather boring. Before I left I asked the smiling receptionist (in Spanish): "Truthfully; if I return, is there any chance that some youngsters would have an interest in a guy like me?" He said yes, but..... I returned on Saturday night, same time. Enterance - 30,000. 15-17 guys. A little more action; all the rest - the same.