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I second 447: bezt to ask in advance. During my dec visit, all the guys offed in Jomtien had originals. (-: Most of the guys jerking at P clubs had beads )-:

Thanks Solace; got it. 11 and Rio r close to the old city preferred by tourists (if memory serves), whereas fox is quite far.

Mixskin, I don't undrstnd "for LT (7 days +). Doesnt LT mean something like 'until morning' ?

Brazil is now 150-200 See in forum

I located fox and clube rio in gglmps, but not 11. Why is that?

Of course u r right I do that with english or spanish speakers It's difficult with ggl trnsltr

I would really like to know how those dad and son came to think about working duo together. Kudos for lack of taboo and inhibitions!

SolaceSoul, What was the age difference btw father and son? R u into matures?

Neither did I

Look at Men's resort and spa

And..... ? What happens after u "request or imply"... ?

"what can possibly b gained by it?" 2 things: 1 - others would enjoy the guy Vinapu recommended. 2 - others would not hire a guy who fakes fotos or doesnt deliver on promises. I agree with u Reader that "our opinions r subjective", but instead of "all" I substitue "most". In most hires, satisfaction or lack thereof is subjective and chemistry may b dominant. In some cases, usually the worst ones, it's factually objective (re Forky's examples). These r the guys forum members should b warned againt, by name.

Reader, please b thorough before accusing. I didnt introduce the term "crap" here; Forky did in his post 20 hours ago, which is why I initially used quotation marks. As always, it would b much better to address issues instead of venturing into personal criticism. In this spirit I repeat: I did NOT recommend "rating their performances". I urge all of us to write curt reasonable factual non-demeaning recommendations or warnings, such as: "I recommend Wit day and night" (Vinapu). X offered no sensual component. Y is highly recommended. Z promised to do something and then refused without explaining.

But u didnt name the "craps". I wouldnt go to any crappy hotel or restaurant (or lawyer or handiman) with bad reviews. No reviewer gives them the benefit of the doubt, hiding their names. Patrons simply report their experience, without thinking "maybe they'll improve". Why r masseurs different? Why shouldnt we learn from your experience whom to avoid?

Bravo Vinapu, for giving an example. Do all the nay sayers find anything wrong with that? Forky, I agree with ur observations but not with ur conclusions. U r a good kind generous person, giving a disappointing masseur the benefit of the doubt (maybe he'll change, maybe it's personal chemistry). However, u r doing so at other patrons' expense. I would rather avoid any masseur u defined above as "crap". This is especially so with cheats, who promise and dont deliver or who fake pics. They deserve NO consideration.

I think it's a great idea! Why not? U r welcome to encourage the masseurs to create a forum, where they could share info about clients that dont tip well. It would of course b less useful, because we come and go while they r the constant in the equation.

I join the accolades for your valuable contributions. However, per my policy of (not full but) more disclosure, I'd like to add the question: why not share the names (no additional details) of the worthy and the disappointing? For example: in sauna X, John provides a service above and beyond; in sauna Y, Joe doesnt add any sensual component to the massage. OOH, no invasion of privacy, no indignities. OTOH, invaluable info for future patrons.

PLEASE call a truce. Please.... Most of us here r interested only in shared info. If anyone dislikes anyone, why continue with bitter bickering? It doesnt matter who has the childish final word. Just IGNORE. Please.....

Thx Andy for the report. How did u speak with the locals?

Not a matter of "opinion". It's a fact an axiom, but standart common sensical conduct is enough to address the prblm

GREAT report!

This total top conduct u described is only at Binbin or also with apps street Marlow's guys?

Guys, does all this fun action in various places happen only to relatively young tourists, or also to older not-neccesarily attractive ones?

I'm asking bcs I've never been to a motel. Is it a better place to deal with such incidents? In my hotel there was security, who could be counted upon to forestall violence. Is that also possible in a motel, if a hustler grabs ur wallet?