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I repeat my recommendation not to engage with Department. Such engagenent serves only to legitimize this negative style which almost all of us abhorr.

Sydney, I posted a report on Arena last week.

One small correction: I didn't voice my "displeasure", only my not understanding - partially ansered by Vinapu's list.

Are Babe and #10 the same person?

Some of you were quick to PM me regarding the department's triple post. I now expand my request publicly: please disregard him, whoever he is. Any response or reference only escalates the phenomenon of personal bickering / attacks. I wish TotallyOz would adopt the following rule: whenever it's clear (as it is in this case) "who started it", he should be banned.

Oh dear; hope u didnt ruin anything... Anyway, life is full of mysteries; we'll live with another one.

Tuesday night I went to hotmail. There was a group of 7 young Koreans at the far end corner, and 5 more patrons dispersed. On stage - 14 shirtless numbered boys, in red training pants. The only one that appealed to me was #10 - vinapu's regular Mr. X whom I had seen in foodland. He waved and smiled at me, and I did so in return. Only a minute at the bar, I already decided I'd off him. An unseen cue was given; suddenly all the boys unceremoniously rushed off stage to a big box on one of the seats, each one fished his cellular and almost ran out of the bar. The whole scene shouted - "can't wait to get out of here"... The most striking thing about the show is that NOBODY smiled. It was quite mediocre....until the 4th act. On stage appeared a naked attractive guy in big white wings, slowly dancing as if he is swimming in the clouds. He had a cock-ringed erection, and seemed to be without condom. His dick was big, banana-curved upward - my favorite direction. I was mesmerized; best big cock scene I have seen. Two acts later he returned to the stage with 5 other condomed boys, just standing there. His was the only upward cock, and probably the biggest. When they went around the audience for a grab-tip, I (as always) avoided touching the rubbered. As he came near me I saw that indeed his wasn't covered, and gave him a tip for shaking hand-dick. I jokingly made a gesture of sucking, but he darted his pelvis back smiling. How pleasant was my surprise when the numbered guys returned to the stage at the interval, and he joined them with a #28 badge. Before I could make my move, the noisy 'leader' of the koreans snatched him to their table. Of course I couldn't see how many tips he showered on him, as he brazenly fondled him. 28 was cooperating smilingly, at one point standing up and exposing half his cute ass to be licked. I have seen such scenes only in that promiscious pattaya bar (nice boys?). I think that management prolonged the interval, because drinks and tips were flowing there. All that time the rest of the boys on stage were just standing there, looking enviously at the party. Anyway, after more then 15 minutes the show kind of resumed. Other patrons left one by one, including - to my surprise and relief - the korean and his group WITHOUT offing 28. By the time the show ended and the numbered guys were back on stage, I was all alone - all eyes on me. I told the papasan I want to off 28. He said "500 for off" and started to talk about the boy's fee. I cut him off politely, saying I'll talk about that directly with the boy. He called him over. Given his stardom I thought he'll quote a model's fee. I was surprised he said 2000, and of course I agreed. While I waited for him to change, I felt bad for #10 - after all our waves and smiles. I went over to him and gave him a 200 tip. For some reason some of the other boys applauded, not sure if it was for him or for me. I won't go into the details of my very satisfactory encounter with 28 (I think he said his name is Baia), except for one thing which was a first for me. When he undressed for our joint shower, I was flabbergasted to see a tiny dick. What the f--k! Was this some kind of scam? It didnt change when we played a bit in the shower. Then, when we started cuddling in bed, he said "please help me". I obliged, it started growing, he quickly put on the cock ring, and suddenly he was in full bloom - no problems for the whole session. Epilogue: The next night (my last), before going to Dream Boy, I stopped by at Hotmale for two reasons. One, I took a photo of 28 (tipping him), and asked whether he wants me to put it on the internet for others who come to BKK. He was glad with the idea, adding: "tell them I am 'man' (top), I fuck, I kiss, I can suck." [Personal observation: he sucks, doesn't like it, and it shows. In bed he is hard strong raw, with his exceptional dick - great for bottoms.] See photo below. The second reason for stopping at hotmale was to repeat my tip-note attempt (which had failed with moonlight #10) this time with hotmale #10. He was surprised at getting a tip for really nothing, but again the gesture failed. He never called. I wonder if it has to do with the number 10..... Anyway - won't try it again. PS - nothing special to report on Dream Boy, in terms of sensual acts or offing. However, I sat behind the DJ station. At some point two of the staff there starting taking photos, so I got permission to do so as well. It was Chinese NY, so maybe they put on a special extravaganza. The photos below don't really capture it. For those of you who are interested and are on whatsapp terms with me - I can send a spectecular short video (which is too heavy to upload here).

No "unnecessary waves"; just curiosity about human nature - a most fascinating subject...in my humble opinion. (-: On 2nd thought, actually there might also be a practical aim to such discussions: if we undestand better their motivations - we might improve our interactions with them.

I wrote about #10, not #1. 10 IS tone and muscle.

I am not complaining, because he is master of himself. I just don't understand it. He works in a bar with a number, which means he wants to be offed. A - why does he behave in an offputting manner? B - he got a tip with an invitation to call; obviously a way to earn money. Why not follow up?

Thx Sorry to admit I didn't invent it. Saw it here, in the threads.

That's my way to contribute to the re-distribution of wealth between the 1st world and other peoples. (-:

On monday night I went to Moonlight. There were only about 7 patrons. I sat at the center of the highest row. On my left was a big asian (korean?) middle aged man, who invited boys for a drink with him, changing them every 10 minutes, without talking with them. On my right was an elderly local lady, probably known by the staff. She was surrounded by 3 waiters, and almost monopolized #10: lean masculine body, handsome face, circular tatoos on his chest beneath the shoulders. He was by far the hottest and most indifferent boy there: didn't invest any energy or gestures in drawing attention to himself; didn't move or smile on the stage; skipped one of the three rounds of off-boys parading. I couldn't take my eyes off him. The show itself was the weakest I've seen in 6 bars. There was no energy, nothing sexual nothing creative, 3 of the guys moved on stage like understudies. Music as usual too loud. I didn't off #10 because his apathy on stage would probably continue in bed. After the show I decided to test my theory. Before I left I went to the stage side curtain and asked the guy there to call him. When #10 came, I gave him a folded 100 b bill with my number written on a note inside the bill. Spoiler: he never contacted me. I asked one of the papasans to come out with me, so I could talk without the deafening music. I told him in three polite ways that they are losing money because of the volume; I would have loved to invite for drinks 3 boys, but I didn't due to inability to hear and converse. His repeated smiley response: "he he he music too loud he he he"..... )-: Feeling a bit disappointed, I decided to continue the night in Banana. WOW, what a difference! The place was packed; they had to 'improvise' a seat for me. The first thing I saw as I entered, contrary to moonlight's chastity, were 6 guys standing on stage with cock-ringed condomed erections. They stayed there for a long time. Doesn't that hurt and/or cause damage? The show was good and energetic, one of the dancers really professional with quick precise moves. The participants came down to the stage from the second floor, but departed walking to the back of the club through the audience - allowing them to collect tips on the way. I didn't find anyone offable, but the show lifted my spirits. As it ended, the good dancer positioned himself near the exit, so I voiced my approval to him accompanied by a 300 tip. Note to self: banana rocks!

Yes I purchased mine 3 days before, relieved that the sale wasn't over. At the event itself I saw that not all tickets had been sold.

BKK, I dont understand: why doesnt he use your NY gift in order to help his sister? I humbly submit that no finance education by government can overcome finance education by generous farangs...