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Vinapu is correct, check multiple sites as prices vary somewhat. Also, check back...most recent trip Raya was sold out when I first checked. A week later there was good availability.

In Boyztown last night for the dawn of the year...nothing special than some red lantern decorating Some signs in Chinese saying gay male review. Boyzboyzboyz about 15% Chinese. Paying top THB for off fees. One of the mamasan told me with great pride that one of the Chinese paid 800 THB for one of the "stars" to go before show finished. Lots and lots of Chinese tour groups in town. Counted 17 tour buses lined up waiting for clients to return to or get off.

Just a caution on Screwboys...I've had two great offs from the Screwboys boys. No complaints, but last Monday, I left the HotMale midnight show to catch Screwboys 1am show. When I got there, only two boys on stage one on his phone. As show time approached I asked mamasan what was up. She said lots of boys sick. I asked and received a reduced fee on the drink I'd ordered and then left.

The Raya Surawong worked for me. I don't smoke but rooms have ashtrays. Check Agoda for pricing on hotels in the Surawong area.

One thing I've absorbed is how useful the details / descriptions you employ turn out to be. Tour companies, restaurants, clubs, frustrations, etc. two examples I had a great dinner last night at the Poseidon Wine Restsurant after using Pattaya Taxi service to get to Pattaya. Myanmar is penciled in for later this year and your reports will help center the visit. I tend to resist taking photos as I find looking back at older photos they don't match my memory. Now that I realize that this creates Trumpian alternative facts, I need to have some sort of record. , I'm still not taking many pictures but am journaling. See what comes of it when I get home.

I've been staring at the space of "Reply to this topic" trying mightily to devise a question, realizing I'm still absorbing the details you are putting into your trip reporting. As you say "And it's not over yet".

I'll be back in Bangkok on January 29, 30, and 31. PM me if interested in meeting up. Had a great time with DivineMadman these past days going to a club and just hanging out.

Maybe that's why Jupiter boys rarely smile.

I've been at The Raya now for 6 nights in one of the Grand Deluxe rooms, off to Pattaya today. Back to the Raya in a basic room when I return. Will report when I'm able to compare, but Grand Deluxe has been "grand".

Asians customers are offing guys just as DivineMadman states. And confirmed to me by the mamasan at HotMale who I've known for a couple of years. Additional observation is that both at Jupiter and HotMale it was the Asian customers who were purchasing bottles rather than drinks.

Went to Jupiter Sunday night with DivineMadMan and some companions. Was surprised there were so few boys, maybe 10. Mekhi and #20 both on stage. Show not much changed since I saw it in October. Not much to add to other recent reports. Most of the audience was Chinese with some Japanese and maybe half dozen farang. Personally, I acknowledge it as the best staged show, but too long a pause between acts.

I thought backpage was being shutdown

Raya has now posted at registration desk that overnight guests must leave I'd at desk until departure. Failure to do so costs registered guest 1,000 THB. I think this is a new policy or no one else has mentioned it. I

Yes, as the common thread of appreciation makes clear, keep writing...BUT, also, keep including the photos. They add a bit of sorrow/joy (first photo evoking the final airport goodbye) to the lighthearted SIM card advert. I depart in a few hours for Bangkok and my reporting will be written on the equivalent of clay tablets compared to your prose.

Suggestion if going to the Vietnamese Embassy....go in the morning. They close for lunch, and when they reopen it is mainly to turnover what's been already processed such as visa requests from the day before or that morning. Usually means two trips to the Embassy are involved. It is not a one stop shop.

Decided to just copy and paste the "intriguing description of Tantric massage from Spa Bangkok's website: The massage itself does not tend to cause orgasms, but these are described as a bonus rather than the aim. Although Tantric massage does not involve actual penetrative sex, it does involve full on touching of the organs. For this reason you will not find it offered in ordinary spa. Not all customers will be able to have Tantric Massage, so we you will need to consult with our therapist first. After that, we will begin by having you recline on your back with pillows under your head , your legs will be slightly apart, your knees just a little bent. Your abdomen, thighs, feet, toes, chest, nipples and fingers are then gently massaged with warm aromatic oil. Nothing will escape attention. Your energy flow is stimulated and senses awakened as your body’s sensitivity increases. According to Tantric ideals, your entire body will be massaged, including those particularly sensitive areas. Perceptions of sensuality and lust are located here, but these “intimate” areas are an important source of joy in life. You will feel relaxed, yet wide awake. You will be coached to breathe properly, as you sink into yet deeper level of relaxation which will give you a feeling of comfort and sense of well-being.

The "membership" is good for a year which is helpful for those of us tourists who return more frequently to Bangkok than the legendary swallows to Capistrano. Also noticed that a "tantric" massage is offered with an intriguing description.

I tend to book 2 hour sessions at Prince and they run the full time. I don't know if it has anything to do with it or not, but Prince is happy to collect the "tip"up front. I don't and tip the masseur directly. As DivineMadman posts, timing can be its own artform, but the the masseur is the artist so it's up to him, with some help, to get it right...but, also, I wasn't there.

Agree with Vinapu, Dalewood, Spoon, and Alexx. Vinapu is succinct:

I've taken a boy to Pattaya, we had a good time...but it was inhibiting with regard to offing someone else. How to handle the room situation, the "diplomacy" involved, etc. Based on that, I suggest a possible alternative to what's been said above, all of which is good wisdom from personal experiences. My alternative is to go to Pattaya for several days, the first days by yourself, invite your friend to join you for the last day or two. And as Vinapu always stresses, be upfront about expectations and compensation. And, whatever, make sure YOU have a good time.

Excellent - begin and the end and then fast backward to the beginning.

Reading Numazu's adventures, he mentions that he is often asked if he is Chinese, Thai, etc and surprises the questioner when he tells them he is from the US. If Numazu is a victim of discrimination, we should all have his "troubles". I'm a farang who ventures into Jupiter and have not sensed / noticed discrimination. I agree with Vinapu that being known as a bad tipper might be discriminated against but that is based on a pragmatic monetary motivation. When there is money about the boys are highly discriminating (in the best sense).

I'll be returning to Thailand staying in Bangkok from 20 January through the 24th, in Pattaya from the 25th through the 28th, and back in Bangkok from the 29th to the morning of 1 February. If any forum members might want to meet up, PM me...my schedule has some commitments but not that many. Example of a commitment: be present when paulsf returns to his seat at Hotmale Bar.

Guess that I'll just re-read one of your previous reports to set the mood until the board lights up with a new one...

Correct - he entered as a tourist,