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Unlike my fellow responders, I fly from the west coast of Canada's southern neighbor. Once upon a time this was a direct route (translation: one stop same plane). Recently, my routing was San Francisco to Tokyo with a 5 hour layover and plane change to ANA or Thai to bring me in at 10PM or later. EVA reverses this with a midnight flight from SF, plane change and multiple hour layover in Taipei and arrival in late morning. These two flight plans arrived in less than 24 hours. Others were available but longer in the plane or transfer airport. United announced that in October it will be adding a route via Hong Kong with only a brief stop for a plane change. Flight from San Francisco will offer a link to Vietnam. I'm with TOTheCore on keeping my devaluating dollars for my Thailand activities. I've done the EVA business class (where the wine kept flowing) but couldn't balance the $200+ / per hour additional cost.

Total Agreement with Vinapu! Be upfront, the boys talk and probably have a chart of our likes and boy preferences. The boys consider us customers and if facilitating a hook up for us will also benefit them so it will be. Early on ifnmy traveling to Thailand, I thought I'd outsmarted my Hot Male guy with a guy from another bar. Next night my HM guy brought the other bar guy around for me to meet. They were room mates! We made a great threesome! Last September, my current regular from Good Guys facilitated a meet up / over night with a guy from Fresh Boys who he's noticed I was eyeing while we were at the Fresh Boys show. Does money change hands? Could happen, probably points of some sort are traded. Works for me as I don't assume my boy is "my boy" and I'm direct about what I'm seeing/wanting/needing/etc. "My boy" is central to my visit and a bonus extra pair of eyes willing to negotiate for himself and me.

Tremendous write-up. Encouraging me to return soon.

FB Mamasan is very welcoming if she recognizes you as more than a first timer. That said, she is a pussycat compared to Mama Lucy.

Once upon pre-Covid times fee was 5K plus 1K Moonight off fee. Charming in private but limits on serious action. Viewing and touching permitted.

The Good Boy staff have an arrangement with the Pavillion hotel.

Some folks are greedy/needy and push the limits

Always enjoy your reports. Thanks.

I just posted the continuation of my trip in Boy Agencies Osaka Update in the Gay Japan Forum. Hope to return to Thailand before the end of the year. Probably won’t happen and I’ll wait until next spring. So keep the reports, insights, gossip coming.

This is a continuation of my “Return” topic in the Gay Thailand forum. After a ten days in Bangkok and Pattaya, I flew to Japan for another ten day visit, 6 of which were with family and friends. That gave me some time to explore options. I had read the forum topic on boy brothels which intrigued me. I had long ago head of King College but had no experience of it or what are a multitude of others. Without too much exploring I identified the following: chanceosaka,jp kids-jp.com Fragrance-boy.com gym-k.com izakspa.com heroes-Tokyo-jp redline03.com urisen-next.com topboy.yoyyo olive-salon.net/staff jam-so11.com dgdgdg.com (Danshi Gauken) I am sure there are more, just depends on one’s location when in Japan. My travel plans settled me into the Osaka/Kyoto region. I was in Tokyo but only for a lengthy layover on the way from Bangkok to Osaka. After looking at the various sites and I encourage forum members to explore as the majority of the sites provide photos of their “representatives”, details on age, height, weight, penis size and what the guys will get up to or into. Many have info charts to summarize if the subject of the photo will kiss, will fuck, be fucked, do threesomes, whether they smoke or drink, if they will do films, and if they are straight, gay, or bi. As to how well a boy might kiss, fuck, etc there are graphic charts. A circle is a yes, a circle in a circle is a sign of experience. A triangle indicates boy is on a learning curve, an x is no. The sites vary as to how they indicate if a boy is a top or bottom. “Uke” is a bottom. “Maru” and “tachi” are slang for top. Some of the sites will also provide an introduction from the boy, a manager’s view of the boy, and client reviews. Chanceconnects to the boy’s Twitter also gives space to the boy to talk about himself - some are very clear about their erogenous zones. Then there is pricing - it is time based and can range from a hour to overnight. The better sites (my rating) are vey clear about how pricing works, if credit cards(and which ones) are accepted with or without an additional handling charge (as much as 7% at some places). You can book to meet the boy at the agency or at your hotel. Danshi Gauken prices are similar to most give or take a 1,000 JPY. An hour at 14,000 JPY for the office and 13,000 if the boy comes to your hotel. I asked why the difference and was told they don’t have cleaning time/costs for someone going to a hotel. The hour pricing is about $95 USD. Two hours is 19,000 JPY ($129 USD). Overnight /12 hours is 32,000 JPY ($287). One can contrast these prices with Bangkok remembering to add in the off fee and and drinks that may have attached themselves to completing the off. The two hour fee is about 4000 THB. As a culture, Japanese do not expect tips. Your up front cost is also the back end cost (in more ways than one). Whew…got the details out. I used both two hour and three hour bookings as I was testing and exploring. First lesson learned was make sure the agency serves the city your are in. I got caught by the photo and talents of a boy at the frangrance agency. Only to receive a polite explanation that Frangrance didn’t serve Osaka. Second lesson book ahead. Most of the sites similar to some Bangkok massage shops have multiple dozens of photos of boys. Best to check the photos on the “schedule” part of the website to see who is actually available and at what times. These sites will also show the availability for the next several days/nights. Some boys require that they be booked the day before the planned meeting. One of my offs who had this requirement told me it helped him with his own schedule as he was a student and wasn’t into hanging around the agency. The boys I “encountered” were always on time or early. One was arriving at 9:40pm which I thought curious until I realized they had calculated the time the subway would get the boy to my location. He arrived at 9:41. I engaged one boy from kids-japan. This did not go well due to an internal hesitation on my part. The staff at kids-japan are YOUNG, Japanese tend to look young, I thought my choice was a middle schooler and instead of any play took him to lunch. To each his own - this wasn’t mine. Chanceosaka.jp supplied a more mature companion, who was better looking than his photos (this was true in all cases), and more than will willing to indulge me. Skills were superb, no need to play games about kissing or any activities. No Vietnamese cry of “I’m Man”. NOTE: Here’s the scenario as noted in four instances: boy arrives on time or early. Agency has contacted me to confirm boy is coming and ask if a security card is needed for the elevator (this is also a check to see if I was actually in the hotel and in the room I told them). The boy comes in and it’s business. Payment is up front and in cash. Credit cards need to be used at the office. Boy may also be required to call his office to confirm he is with his client. Then it’s shower time. Japanese are very clean and want clients to also be clean. Shower together. It was over 95C every day I was in Japan so shower was also a cooling as well as cleansing. Erotic activities are encouraged, allowed, reciprocated, enhanced while in the shower and they lead to whatever the client indicated he wants. It was in the shower part that I realized kids-japan was too middle school for me. I had one visitor from Danshi Gauken and another from Chance. I really wanted a hook up with one of Chance’s employees “Daiki” but he was booked except for some times that with travel would mean only a handshake could happen. The Chance office manager and I went back and forth about filling a spot in my free time. He suggested I see who was working and interested me and he would check. This worked and an incredibly well hung, tall, and good looking young man knocked on my door a few minutes before the scheduled time. The Danshi Gauken representative was decently hung, incredibly handsome, tall and came with mouth wash, extra towels, and an industrial type lube which I was encouraged to apply generously when it would be needed. Danshi Gauken’s office also impressed me (and it was all email conversations) with their thoroughness and requiring the boy call them when he arrived and was leaving. They also sent a special email requesting I not keep the boy beyond a time when he couldn’t get the last subway train of the night. Given the heat and the crowding in Osaka subway stations, I don’t know what an office experience would be like. My Bangkok experiences lean me toward preferring a crowded group to select from. My Osaka experiences make me rethink. I normally would be wary of choosing from a photo, but the Japanese as a culture are very scrupulous and quality conscious and in the case of Chance and Danshi Gauken the actual was way better than the photos. It’s a different method but the end product was somewhat better than Bangkok as there was no need for in room negotiation and the boys I was with consistently wanted to know that I wanted and how to please me. A final thought not totally related, writing this report caused me to remember some 30 plus years ago in London visiting a house of boys, where one descended a staircase, was checked at the door through a port hole before being admitted, and then after business preliminaries settled, taken to a room when a curtain was drawn to allow me to look at the available boys all shirtless watching television, a boy was selected with no interactions, and I and the boy were taken to a room similar to a hospital room to go our separate ways when finished. Bleak. This was much more fun. In all three full sessions, had the impression I was the center of the experience which was to please/pleasure me.

After a ten days in Bangkok and Pattaya, I flew to Japan for another ten day visit, 6 of which were with family and friends. That gave me some time to explore options. I had read the forum topic on boy brothels which intrigued me. I had long ago head of King College but had no experience of it or what are a multitude of others. Without too much exploring I identified the following: chanceosaka,jp kids-jp.com Fragrance-boy.com gym-k.com izakspa.com heroes-Tokyo-jp redline03.com urisen-next.com topboy.yoyyo olive-salon.net/staff jam-so11.com dgdgdg.com (Danshi Gauken) I am sure there are more, just depends on one’s location when in Japan. My travel plans settled me into the Osaka/Kyoto region. I was in Tokyo but only for a lengthy layover on the way from Bangkok to Osaka. After looking at the various sites and I encourage forum members to explore as the majority of the sites will provide photos of their “representatives”, details on age, height, weight, penis size and what the guys will get up to or into. Many have info charts to summarize if the subject of the photo will kiss, will fuck, be fucked, do threesomes, whether they smoke or drink, if they will do films, and if they are straight, gay, or bi. As to how well a boy might kiss, fuck, etc there can be graphic charts. A circle is a yes, a circle in a circle is a sign of experience. A triangle indicates boy is on a learning curve, an x is no. The sites vary as to how they indicate if a boy is a top or bottom. “Uke” is a bottom. “Maru” and “tachi” are slang for top. Some of the sites will also provide an introduction from the boy, a manager’s view of the boy, and client reviews. One, Chance, also gives space to the boy to talk about himself - some are very clear about their erogenous zones. Then there is pricing - it is time based and can range from a hour to overnight. The better sites (my rating) are vey clear about how pricing works, if credit cards (and which ones) are accepted with or without an additional handling charge (as much as 7% at some places). I used both two hour and three hour bookings as I was testing and exploring. You can book to meet the boy at the agency or at your hotel. Danshi Gauken prices and hour at 14,000 JPY for the office and 13,000 if the boy comes to your hotel. I asked why the difference and was told they don’t have cleaning time/costs for someone going to a hotel. The hour pricing is about $95 USD. Two hours is 19,000 JPY ($129 USD). Overnight /12 hours is 32,000 JPY ($287). One can contrast these prices with Bangkok remembering to add in the off fee and and drinks that may have attached themselves to completing the off. The two hour fee is about 4000 THB. As a culture, Japanese do not expect tips. Your up front cost is also the back end cost (in more ways than one). Whew…got the details out. NOwfor the

While not a weekend, I’ve done a week which includes more than 24 hours of travel time from San Francisco.

After the above panegyric to FreshBoys, my remaining days/nights in Bangkok settled into a routine. Thursday dinner at Mango Tree, then jazz club, the return to FreshBoys, I like to be with people who are enjoying life on the stage a in the audience, and performers in the audience. Thursday, the break from routine was to schedule as off with Nam for Friday afternoon. Friday afternoon, Nam came to the hotel. He arrived at early for our meet up. He stayed until almost 6! Don’t jumble to any conclusions! The intermingling of limbs was about the length of a massage. After he had expended himself, he rested his head on my arm, then he started snoring, turned over, stopped snoring. Woke up when CoCo arrived bringing his Pattaya backpack. Nam took a shower, three of us chatted about nothing. Nam left, CoCo and I went back for more German food. I said good bye to Pao, Jazz Club, Fresh Boys still full house. Seated tonight on opposite side of house. At end of show rotation, there were 22 boys in place of the 40 at opening. Numerous offs. CoCo and back to hotel for practice for Pattaya. Up in time to find driver from Mike’s arriving early (as anticipated). Arrived Pattaya to find that is the first day of a two day religious festival. No liquor can be sold, no entertainment venues are operating. We go to Dongtan, more folks on the sands. Hotel arranged for dinner for us two. After dinner we walked the darkened and empty Jomtien. I had been complaining from the drive began from Bangkok of a heavy deep chest cough. While not noticed at the beach, it came back with a vengeance once back at The Poseidon. Then came some chills and my mind goes “Damn I’m getting sick again in Thailand” and well damn it. Coco verified I had a termperature. My body made me sleep, cold sweats. My companion responded with hot and cold compresses, went out a found a pharmacy around 2 in the morning. This was repeated on Sunday. Monday the religious holiday was over and we visited Pattaya, the Walking Street, Boys Town, went back to the beach. Still not at 50%. Up Tuesday morning at 4 to catch my flight to Tokyo on my way to Osaka, where I’m writing this. with time changes, it was over 12 hours on airports and planes and waiting. I said a sorrowful good by. Coco was a health hero. I might get sentimental so I’ll stop. Tonight one of the “Japanese Boy Brothels” will enter my experience databank. Will report in the forum.

It’s now Thursday night and we convene on soi 4. Arrive in time to see Bananas manageres change the base drink price at Banana to 380 THB. Directly across the soi at G’s German Restaurant, Coco and I each choose the pork knuckle special which is a mini-mountain of food. Mostly meat. Good beers, conversation is light and I pick up some of the CoCo background information that I posted early in a reply to vinapu. We joust with Banana’s grabber and catch up on how his son is doing and growing. G’s owner has headed off to Pattaya I so didn’t get more time with him to take in his opinions. Skipping the strudel, we head to the jazz club for an hour of piano and singer melding into classics (e.g“Stardust” ). While at Groovin’ High, the jazz bar, we discussed where to go next. Three clubs still on my list to checkout: Stranger Bar, FreshBoys, & Hot Male. The Stranger Bar has moved from its narrow show case next to (?) Adam Massage to a much bigger appearing from the outside to the left of Jupiter. Decided to start at FreshBoys and depart in time to see Hot Male’s 2nd show. It’s been more than a year since I was at FreshBoys, I have many happy memories and a string of offs from the club’s locations and incarnations on both sides of Surawong. Minh is in his usual spot near to the stairs. I learn that the reason there ares shirtless boys at the top of the steps is both marketing and a cast holding area for the 40 boys in rotation. Inside it’s the same room, same layout, strong sound level, stage filled with boys in alphanumeric rotation 1 to 40 in order, unless someone has been called over for a drink or more. Mamasan sees me and orders boys off the sofa area immediately inside the entrance. We effusively greet one another and she does the same with CoCo. Once seated, I scan the rotation, by the end of a round I realize that over the past four or five years I’ve offed four of the boys and two of the waiters! The vibe in FreshBoys has an energy I haven’t encountered until now. The main seating area appears to be full of both paying customers and boys who are being treated to boy drinks. Seated where we are I see a constant coming and going of drink waiters. Number 40 in rotation is smiling broadly as he moves past. Since he’s handsome borderline cute with a big smile I indicate interest and mamasan has him on the sofa next to me. He’s from VietNam! Drink offered, drink accepted. His name is Nam (I’ll probably be able to remember it). Mamasan is very involved in how the show runs, interacts with the boys and is constantly chatting up the customers (of which there will be a steady flow in the next two hours. Once the rotation ends and the first of the 2 divas comes on stage, many of my ex offs stop by, I’m having a good time, Nam leaves to be in different acts, returns after each, he is first a dancer with a flower lei, then in the two guys and a diva number with each molesting and committing rapine, as clothes are shed. He will also be an a two guys in a shower scene but that will be later, and he’s one of the 9 in the big cock hit the pole festival. Yes, it reads as the same, rotation, diva, act with some sex, rotation, act with naked sex, diva, rotation, shower scene with more but soapy sex, ring the pole, pole ringers circulate for a top to touch their tips, diva and end the show with a rotation for the midnight show. During all this Nam returns to cuddle and unleash his smile. Hands encouraged to wander. I’m capitvated by the room’s vibrant vibe. I think that someone in Management took a pause, looked at what was on hand, and thought about making it flow and come alive. The mamasan is part of that as she is constantly on the move, encouraging the audience to chheer the boys when needed, to leading sing alongside with the grander diva numbers. There is still a crowd when lights come up to signal the end of the first show. Drinks have been mixed and served during the two hours we’ve been there. There might be money being made here. Maybe six boys leaving with customers. CoCo and I say our good byes…shirtless honor guard to the door and outside. Head to Hot Male since it’s right next door. I walk past the entrance - it was too well lit! Inside there are one mamasan and two managers and 20 boys in red trunks and maybe Hot Male logo T-shirt. Notice I have not mentioned the audience numbers. There were none! Guys are good looking, etc. Note: to vinapu, #10 the blonde god we both noticed and exchanged comments about was there! Even knowing I wasn’t going to be caught being the only customers , #IO called him over as he had spotted me when I spotted him (maybe before). A glorious piece of god’s craftsmanship!. I explained I couldn’t stay and gave him a remembrance vinapu tuck. Coco and I leave as the boys begins to perform the show (Indian temple dancers, remember?) One customer has arrived. We go back for a remedial stamp session as I process the last few hours.

Just walked by a construction site that was Dick’s.