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Is La the same fellow who was the "grabber" for Hot Male when it was on Soi Twilight? In August, I went to soi 4 expecting to say hello and couldn't find him. Then I was greeted by him when I went to Freshboys. Lots of history and faces in his memory bank.

I keep intending to post about my August visits to Bangkok but my intentions don't turn into actions. I'll make an attempt to do better. During my first week, I went with a Malaysian from Good Boys to Moonlight. We arrived 30 minutes before the show time to find all of the "stars" sabe Babe seated outside greeting the punters. I have no idea if this is new, only for that night, or a continuing practice. Babe was inside with his date (female). Turns out it was Babe's birthday. We were seated next them. Babe went backstage to prepe for the show. The mamsans and waiters went into overdrive to have the customers (maybe 20 of us) buy the 1000THB garlands. Babe recieved 4 as the birthday boy. I went back two weeks later and no garlands were purchased.

Day trip with a guide/driver worked well for me.

It’s been nearly a year since my last visit to Thailand and 30+ years since my first. The return planning has changed several times as I’d hoped to cross paths with Forum colleagues but schedules and commitments could not mesh. So I’ll go it alone suspecting path crossings will occur. Eva Air will drop me off on August 5th in the afternoon. Open to meet ups with Forum contributors. Reader has been generous with his time and given me some insightful tips on what’s changed as he winds down his current stay. Thanks.

Unlike my fellow responders, I fly from the west coast of Canada's southern neighbor. Once upon a time this was a direct route (translation: one stop same plane). Recently, my routing was San Francisco to Tokyo with a 5 hour layover and plane change to ANA or Thai to bring me in at 10PM or later. EVA reverses this with a midnight flight from SF, plane change and multiple hour layover in Taipei and arrival in late morning. These two flight plans arrived in less than 24 hours. Others were available but longer in the plane or transfer airport. United announced that in October it will be adding a route via Hong Kong with only a brief stop for a plane change. Flight from San Francisco will offer a link to Vietnam. I'm with TOTheCore on keeping my devaluating dollars for my Thailand activities. I've done the EVA business class (where the wine kept flowing) but couldn't balance the $200+ / per hour additional cost.

Total Agreement with Vinapu! Be upfront, the boys talk and probably have a chart of our likes and boy preferences. The boys consider us customers and if facilitating a hook up for us will also benefit them so it will be. Early on ifnmy traveling to Thailand, I thought I'd outsmarted my Hot Male guy with a guy from another bar. Next night my HM guy brought the other bar guy around for me to meet. They were room mates! We made a great threesome! Last September, my current regular from Good Guys facilitated a meet up / over night with a guy from Fresh Boys who he's noticed I was eyeing while we were at the Fresh Boys show. Does money change hands? Could happen, probably points of some sort are traded. Works for me as I don't assume my boy is "my boy" and I'm direct about what I'm seeing/wanting/needing/etc. "My boy" is central to my visit and a bonus extra pair of eyes willing to negotiate for himself and me.

Tremendous write-up. Encouraging me to return soon.

FB Mamasan is very welcoming if she recognizes you as more than a first timer. That said, she is a pussycat compared to Mama Lucy.

Once upon pre-Covid times fee was 5K plus 1K Moonight off fee. Charming in private but limits on serious action. Viewing and touching permitted.

The Good Boy staff have an arrangement with the Pavillion hotel.

Some folks are greedy/needy and push the limits

Always enjoy your reports. Thanks.

I just posted the continuation of my trip in Boy Agencies Osaka Update in the Gay Japan Forum. Hope to return to Thailand before the end of the year. Probably won’t happen and I’ll wait until next spring. So keep the reports, insights, gossip coming.

This is a continuation of my “Return” topic in the Gay Thailand forum. After a ten days in Bangkok and Pattaya, I flew to Japan for another ten day visit, 6 of which were with family and friends. That gave me some time to explore options. I had read the forum topic on boy brothels which intrigued me. I had long ago head of King College but had no experience of it or what are a multitude of others. Without too much exploring I identified the following: chanceosaka,jp kids-jp.com Fragrance-boy.com gym-k.com izakspa.com heroes-Tokyo-jp redline03.com urisen-next.com topboy.yoyyo olive-salon.net/staff jam-so11.com dgdgdg.com (Danshi Gauken) I am sure there are more, just depends on one’s location when in Japan. My travel plans settled me into the Osaka/Kyoto region. I was in Tokyo but only for a lengthy layover on the way from Bangkok to Osaka. After looking at the various sites and I encourage forum members to explore as the majority of the sites provide photos of their “representatives”, details on age, height, weight, penis size and what the guys will get up to or into. Many have info charts to summarize if the subject of the photo will kiss, will fuck, be fucked, do threesomes, whether they smoke or drink, if they will do films, and if they are straight, gay, or bi. As to how well a boy might kiss, fuck, etc there are graphic charts. A circle is a yes, a circle in a circle is a sign of experience. A triangle indicates boy is on a learning curve, an x is no. The sites vary as to how they indicate if a boy is a top or bottom. “Uke” is a bottom. “Maru” and “tachi” are slang for top. Some of the sites will also provide an introduction from the boy, a manager’s view of the boy, and client reviews. Chanceconnects to the boy’s Twitter also gives space to the boy to talk about himself - some are very clear about their erogenous zones. Then there is pricing - it is time based and can range from a hour to overnight. The better sites (my rating) are vey clear about how pricing works, if credit cards(and which ones) are accepted with or without an additional handling charge (as much as 7% at some places). You can book to meet the boy at the agency or at your hotel. Danshi Gauken prices are similar to most give or take a 1,000 JPY. An hour at 14,000 JPY for the office and 13,000 if the boy comes to your hotel. I asked why the difference and was told they don’t have cleaning time/costs for someone going to a hotel. The hour pricing is about $95 USD. Two hours is 19,000 JPY ($129 USD). Overnight /12 hours is 32,000 JPY ($287). One can contrast these prices with Bangkok remembering to add in the off fee and and drinks that may have attached themselves to completing the off. The two hour fee is about 4000 THB. As a culture, Japanese do not expect tips. Your up front cost is also the back end cost (in more ways than one). Whew…got the details out. I used both two hour and three hour bookings as I was testing and exploring. First lesson learned was make sure the agency serves the city your are in. I got caught by the photo and talents of a boy at the frangrance agency. Only to receive a polite explanation that Frangrance didn’t serve Osaka. Second lesson book ahead. Most of the sites similar to some Bangkok massage shops have multiple dozens of photos of boys. Best to check the photos on the “schedule” part of the website to see who is actually available and at what times. These sites will also show the availability for the next several days/nights. Some boys require that they be booked the day before the planned meeting. One of my offs who had this requirement told me it helped him with his own schedule as he was a student and wasn’t into hanging around the agency. The boys I “encountered” were always on time or early. One was arriving at 9:40pm which I thought curious until I realized they had calculated the time the subway would get the boy to my location. He arrived at 9:41. I engaged one boy from kids-japan. This did not go well due to an internal hesitation on my part. The staff at kids-japan are YOUNG, Japanese tend to look young, I thought my choice was a middle schooler and instead of any play took him to lunch. To each his own - this wasn’t mine. Chanceosaka.jp supplied a more mature companion, who was better looking than his photos (this was true in all cases), and more than will willing to indulge me. Skills were superb, no need to play games about kissing or any activities. No Vietnamese cry of “I’m Man”. NOTE: Here’s the scenario as noted in four instances: boy arrives on time or early. Agency has contacted me to confirm boy is coming and ask if a security card is needed for the elevator (this is also a check to see if I was actually in the hotel and in the room I told them). The boy comes in and it’s business. Payment is up front and in cash. Credit cards need to be used at the office. Boy may also be required to call his office to confirm he is with his client. Then it’s shower time. Japanese are very clean and want clients to also be clean. Shower together. It was over 95C every day I was in Japan so shower was also a cooling as well as cleansing. Erotic activities are encouraged, allowed, reciprocated, enhanced while in the shower and they lead to whatever the client indicated he wants. It was in the shower part that I realized kids-japan was too middle school for me. I had one visitor from Danshi Gauken and another from Chance. I really wanted a hook up with one of Chance’s employees “Daiki” but he was booked except for some times that with travel would mean only a handshake could happen. The Chance office manager and I went back and forth about filling a spot in my free time. He suggested I see who was working and interested me and he would check. This worked and an incredibly well hung, tall, and good looking young man knocked on my door a few minutes before the scheduled time. The Danshi Gauken representative was decently hung, incredibly handsome, tall and came with mouth wash, extra towels, and an industrial type lube which I was encouraged to apply generously when it would be needed. Danshi Gauken’s office also impressed me (and it was all email conversations) with their thoroughness and requiring the boy call them when he arrived and was leaving. They also sent a special email requesting I not keep the boy beyond a time when he couldn’t get the last subway train of the night. Given the heat and the crowding in Osaka subway stations, I don’t know what an office experience would be like. My Bangkok experiences lean me toward preferring a crowded group to select from. My Osaka experiences make me rethink. I normally would be wary of choosing from a photo, but the Japanese as a culture are very scrupulous and quality conscious and in the case of Chance and Danshi Gauken the actual was way better than the photos. It’s a different method but the end product was somewhat better than Bangkok as there was no need for in room negotiation and the boys I was with consistently wanted to know that I wanted and how to please me. A final thought not totally related, writing this report caused me to remember some 30 plus years ago in London visiting a house of boys, where one descended a staircase, was checked at the door through a port hole before being admitted, and then after business preliminaries settled, taken to a room when a curtain was drawn to allow me to look at the available boys all shirtless watching television, a boy was selected with no interactions, and I and the boy were taken to a room similar to a hospital room to go our separate ways when finished. Bleak. This was much more fun. In all three full sessions, had the impression I was the center of the experience which was to please/pleasure me.

After a ten days in Bangkok and Pattaya, I flew to Japan for another ten day visit, 6 of which were with family and friends. That gave me some time to explore options. I had read the forum topic on boy brothels which intrigued me. I had long ago head of King College but had no experience of it or what are a multitude of others. Without too much exploring I identified the following: chanceosaka,jp kids-jp.com Fragrance-boy.com gym-k.com izakspa.com heroes-Tokyo-jp redline03.com urisen-next.com topboy.yoyyo olive-salon.net/staff jam-so11.com dgdgdg.com (Danshi Gauken) I am sure there are more, just depends on one’s location when in Japan. My travel plans settled me into the Osaka/Kyoto region. I was in Tokyo but only for a lengthy layover on the way from Bangkok to Osaka. After looking at the various sites and I encourage forum members to explore as the majority of the sites will provide photos of their “representatives”, details on age, height, weight, penis size and what the guys will get up to or into. Many have info charts to summarize if the subject of the photo will kiss, will fuck, be fucked, do threesomes, whether they smoke or drink, if they will do films, and if they are straight, gay, or bi. As to how well a boy might kiss, fuck, etc there can be graphic charts. A circle is a yes, a circle in a circle is a sign of experience. A triangle indicates boy is on a learning curve, an x is no. The sites vary as to how they indicate if a boy is a top or bottom. “Uke” is a bottom. “Maru” and “tachi” are slang for top. Some of the sites will also provide an introduction from the boy, a manager’s view of the boy, and client reviews. One, Chance, also gives space to the boy to talk about himself - some are very clear about their erogenous zones. Then there is pricing - it is time based and can range from a hour to overnight. The better sites (my rating) are vey clear about how pricing works, if credit cards (and which ones) are accepted with or without an additional handling charge (as much as 7% at some places). I used both two hour and three hour bookings as I was testing and exploring. You can book to meet the boy at the agency or at your hotel. Danshi Gauken prices and hour at 14,000 JPY for the office and 13,000 if the boy comes to your hotel. I asked why the difference and was told they don’t have cleaning time/costs for someone going to a hotel. The hour pricing is about $95 USD. Two hours is 19,000 JPY ($129 USD). Overnight /12 hours is 32,000 JPY ($287). One can contrast these prices with Bangkok remembering to add in the off fee and and drinks that may have attached themselves to completing the off. The two hour fee is about 4000 THB. As a culture, Japanese do not expect tips. Your up front cost is also the back end cost (in more ways than one). Whew…got the details out. NOwfor the